On Oct 19, 6:28*am, Dawlish wrote:
On Oct 18, 11:55*pm, Adam Lea wrote:





On 18/10/11 06:29, Dawlish wrote:

On Oct 17, 5:47 pm, *wrote:
Probably model fluff, but you can imagine the scurrying and
speculation amongst the coldies if these charts cropped up on 2 models
in January - even if it was for just one run on each!!

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm2402.gif

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn2401.png

3 consecutive gfs runs and 2 consecutive ECM runs. Still low
probability, but a Scandinavian high is still showing on the charts
and is shown stalling the passage of Atlantic depressions over the UK
on both models at T240 and creating the classic battleground
conditions.

PS Yesterday's was posted to pre-empt and dissuade the coldies from
doing what they annoy many of us to death with each winter, shouting
"EASTERLIES" every time a Scandinavian high shows in the far reaches
of gfs. Today we have the backing of a few runs, but it's only low
probability still. It'll need two more gfs runs before I become
properly interested.

If you like snow then easterlies aren't enough, you need moisture and
uplift as well, otherwise all you get is either cold sunny conditions
with night frosts, or that horrible dull anticyclonic gloom type weather
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Don't we just know it! No good for man, nor beast!

2 days on from my original post and it now looks like the model
suggestions will resolve into a short-lived battleground slowing of
the Atlantic, with southerlies/south-easterlies for a while, leading
to more October warmth, followed by a gradual winning out by the
Atlantic. How many times do we see that in winter with the associated
angst, soul-searching and banging of heads by the coldies when their
dreams are shattered once again, is pretty awful to see.

That's why uk.sci.weather is a far better place than weather fora
through the winter. Apart from a few individuals (one professional who
really should know a lot better) who jump on the cold bandwagon every
time, posters here are generally far more conservative and will wait
for that agreement and consistency in the models before beginning to
expect cold and snow. Don't you just love in internet weather winter?
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Will enjoys the cold and is biased towards it which is natural but he
is still a professional and many here although they might moan when a
forecast doesn't quite pan out would miss Will's input greatly . You
seem to feel the need to show disrespect to everyone on this group if
they don't see things your way-why do you do that?
Other people have disagreed on here all the time but they don't seem
to do it with a sneer on their face. Is that how you mean to come
across or are you tragically misunderstood?

One thing is certain though. When there is a sniff of interesting
weather on the horizon people will be seeking out Will's posts -not
yours.

On Oct 19, 6:04*pm, Lawrence13 wrote:
On Oct 19, 6:28*am, Dawlish wrote:





On Oct 18, 11:55*pm, Adam Lea wrote:

On 18/10/11 06:29, Dawlish wrote:

On Oct 17, 5:47 pm, *wrote:
Probably model fluff, but you can imagine the scurrying and
speculation amongst the coldies if these charts cropped up on 2 models
in January - even if it was for just one run on each!!

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm2402.gif

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn2401.png

3 consecutive gfs runs and 2 consecutive ECM runs. Still low
probability, but a Scandinavian high is still showing on the charts
and is shown stalling the passage of Atlantic depressions over the UK
on both models at T240 and creating the classic battleground
conditions.

PS Yesterday's was posted to pre-empt and dissuade the coldies from
doing what they annoy many of us to death with each winter, shouting
"EASTERLIES" every time a Scandinavian high shows in the far reaches
of gfs. Today we have the backing of a few runs, but it's only low
probability still. It'll need two more gfs runs before I become
properly interested.

If you like snow then easterlies aren't enough, you need moisture and
uplift as well, otherwise all you get is either cold sunny conditions
with night frosts, or that horrible dull anticyclonic gloom type weather
with a strong cold wind that feels like it blows right through you.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Don't we just know it! No good for man, nor beast!

2 days on from my original post and it now looks like the model
suggestions will resolve into a short-lived battleground slowing of
the Atlantic, with southerlies/south-easterlies for a while, leading
to more October warmth, followed by a gradual winning out by the
Atlantic. How many times do we see that in winter with the associated
angst, soul-searching and banging of heads by the coldies when their
dreams are shattered once again, is pretty awful to see.

That's why uk.sci.weather is a far better place than weather fora
through the winter. Apart from a few individuals (one professional who
really should know a lot better) who jump on the cold bandwagon every
time, posters here are generally far more conservative and will wait
for that agreement and consistency in the models before beginning to
expect cold and snow. Don't you just love in internet weather winter?
*))- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Will enjoys the cold and is biased towards it *which is natural but he
is still a professional and many here although they might moan when a
forecast doesn't quite pan out would miss Will's input *greatly . You
seem to feel the need to show disrespect to everyone on this group if
they don't see things your way-why do you do that?
Other people have disagreed on here all the time but they don't seem
to do it with a sneer on their face. Is that how you mean to come
across or are you tragically misunderstood?

One thing is certain though. When there is a sniff of interesting
weather on the horizon people will be seeking out Will's posts -not
yours.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Nor my posts I should have said . By the way the last person that read
one of my posts; have they come of section yet?