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On Dec 3, 1:04*pm, Nick Humphries
wrote:
Dawlish wrote:
You can't trust any of this stuff. It's speculation on tiny
possibilities; no more.


Well, quite. The fun is in the tracking, the commentary, and watching
those probabilities grow and shrink. And whilst the points you raise
may be valid ones, your personality negates any contribution you make.

But I've seen your type before, I've seen the damage your type makes
to forums, and I fully expect you to neither agree nor understand that
you are being antisociable. And as this is Usenet, there's nothing to
be done about that.


Or about "my type". That says a lot more about you than it does about
me, dear boy.

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there we go with the fascination of "boys", met "tea boys"

YES SIR HEADMASTER SIR

back to prefect duty


On 03/12/2011 3:44 PM, Dawlish wrote:

Or about "my type". That says a lot more about you than it does about
me, dear boy.


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destructive child alright

its only usenet it can post on, banned from all moderated ones


On 03/12/2011 11:47 AM, Howard Neil wrote:

I certainly would appreciate your musings, Will. Please just ignore the
destructive children that always think they are right and should have
their own way. The rest of us would like to see this newsgroup return to
what it once was and your musings are a wonderful way of achieving this.


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well said

On 03/12/2011 1:04 PM, Nick Humphries wrote:


But I've seen your type before, I've seen the damage your type makes
to forums, and I fully expect you to neither agree nor understand that
you are being antisociable. And as this is Usenet, there's nothing to
be done about that.


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In article 4a81363b-08fc-469c-8de4-
, says...
Oh no! The first of the; "if only we could tap into the cold to
our......" posts of the winter. *)) There's always cold in the Arctic/
over Asia/over Greenland in December. Oddly, it is there every year at
this time - and its always only 2000 miles (ish) away. Sometimes we
"tap into it" - as per this time last year. Most times it sits there,
being tantalising and driving the people mad who constantly hope for
the "floodgate" to open. The rest of us ignore it, until it actually
looks like it might! *))


Is it at all possible for you to just once read one of Will Hand's post
whilst keeping your agenda of desperately finding something to critisise
or score points upon locked firmly away in a cupboard somewhere.

Will's post was a perfectly sensible post discussing a current setup and
it's possible effect elsewhere (or to be more accurate the possible
effect of elsewhere on it). This is quite normal in a weather discussion
group. Re-read his post

Your churlish attempts at oneupmanship, your continued presumption that
model discussions are forecasts, and your delusion that the dislike for
you on this group (and everywhere else apparently) is in some way due to
you 'embarrassing the experts' are now getting beyond tedious.

No one who knows me would say that I can't suffer fools, but every man
has his breaking point, and your constant sniping at people who want to
discuss things that you don't want to discuss is really beginning to
rile me.

--
Alan LeHun


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On Dec 3, 10:57*pm, Alan LeHun wrote:
In article 3fc792f9-2255-43e0-85e9-5998bf8a5123
@g7g2000vbd.googlegroups.com, says...

*but don't be too
quick to cticise when someone offers the other side of the coin -
which may actually be the probability. I see nothing wrong with
presenting the probable, or calling the unlikely, unlikely


This is so NOT what /you/ are doing. You are criticising, attacking and
engaging in purile point scoring.

Go look at the first paragraph of your first post in this thread and
tell me where the 'other side of the coin' is.

sheesh

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Alan LeHun
In a foul mood tonight. Sorry peeps.


Yes you are. Tomorrow will be better..........hopefully.

In the meantime, the cold "wodge" of air stays right were it is in the
forseeable future; over Greenland and shows no signs of being advected
towards us and is really not "flooding south to re-inforce the
Atlantic baroclinicity in the cold westerly". More likely (but a long
way from being certain) we could have WAA into the Arctic, taking a
path between Greenland and us and cutting off any possible cold feed.
But you like what Will says, so fair enough.

It will get cold and snow in lowland England, but not over the next 10
days, in most areas.

PS Don't shoot the messenger; he's only being highly sensible and
reading the charts as they should be read. With sense and reality.
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On 03/12/2011 11:24 PM, Dawlish wrote:


PS Don't shoot the messenger; he's only being highly sensible and
reading the charts as they should be read. With sense and reality.


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On Dec 3, 11:03*am, Dawlish wrote:
On Dec 3, 10:12*am, "Eskimo Will" wrote:





I was discussing this at work earlier this week with a Chief forecaster.. It
has been pretty persistent for a few weeks now, never moving. It's almost as
if the progressive Rossby pattern (still spot on Len!) has cut off that part
of the Arctic leaving it to cool and cool .. Seas just to the east of
Greenland are now cold and this reservoir of deep cold air is like a tap
opening up and flooding south to re-inforce the Atlantic baroclinicity in
the cold westerly, preventing blocking further east. Over time the colder
air has come further south and now Scotland is set to turn very cold, though
still with milder interludes in the mobility. The big question is will a
mid-Atlantic ridge amplify due to upstream trough extension over Canada.. All
eyes to the Pacific I guess. So it seems for the time being at least we are
looking at cold mobility with lots of fascinating wintry detail to get hold
of, especially, but not exclusively in northern areas!


Ciao, winter weather watchers :-)


Will
--


Oh no! The first of the; "if only we could tap into the cold to
our......" posts of the winter. *)) There's always cold in the Arctic/
over Asia/over Greenland in December. Oddly, it is there every year at
this time - and its always only 2000 miles (ish) away. Sometimes we
"tap into it" - as per this time last year. Most times it sits there,
being tantalising and driving the people mad who constantly hope for
the "floodgate" to open. The rest of us ignore it, until it actually
looks like it might! *))

Actually, the big queston is really whether the high pressure which is
presently to our SW will migrate eastwards and settle over Europe to
give us the mild Christmas that many are hoping for, so they can
travel easily to see family and friends (no English lowland snow over
the weekend of the 16-18th, please), or jet off to the sun (I wish!)
without airports being closed.- Hide quoted text -

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"Actually, the big queston is really whether the high pressure which
is
presently to our SW will migrate eastwards and settle over Europe to
give us the mild Christmas that many are hoping for, so they can
travel easily to see family and friends "



Won't be an issue for you then as you don't have any ;-)

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On Dec 4, 1:27*am, Lawrence13 wrote:
On Dec 3, 11:03*am, Dawlish wrote:





On Dec 3, 10:12*am, "Eskimo Will" wrote:


I was discussing this at work earlier this week with a Chief forecaster. It
has been pretty persistent for a few weeks now, never moving. It's almost as
if the progressive Rossby pattern (still spot on Len!) has cut off that part
of the Arctic leaving it to cool and cool .. Seas just to the east of
Greenland are now cold and this reservoir of deep cold air is like a tap
opening up and flooding south to re-inforce the Atlantic baroclinicity in
the cold westerly, preventing blocking further east. Over time the colder
air has come further south and now Scotland is set to turn very cold, though
still with milder interludes in the mobility. The big question is will a
mid-Atlantic ridge amplify due to upstream trough extension over Canada. All
eyes to the Pacific I guess. So it seems for the time being at least we are
looking at cold mobility with lots of fascinating wintry detail to get hold
of, especially, but not exclusively in northern areas!


Ciao, winter weather watchers :-)


Will
--


Oh no! The first of the; "if only we could tap into the cold to
our......" posts of the winter. *)) There's always cold in the Arctic/
over Asia/over Greenland in December. Oddly, it is there every year at
this time - and its always only 2000 miles (ish) away. Sometimes we
"tap into it" - as per this time last year. Most times it sits there,
being tantalising and driving the people mad who constantly hope for
the "floodgate" to open. The rest of us ignore it, until it actually
looks like it might! *))


Actually, the big queston is really whether the high pressure which is
presently to our SW will migrate eastwards and settle over Europe to
give us the mild Christmas that many are hoping for, so they can
travel easily to see family and friends (no English lowland snow over
the weekend of the 16-18th, please), or jet off to the sun (I wish!)
without airports being closed.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


================================================== =========================*====================

"Actually, the big queston is really whether the high pressure which
is

presently to our SW will migrate eastwards and settle over Europe to
give us the mild Christmas that many are hoping for, so they can
travel easily to see family and friends "


Won't be an issue for you then as you don't have any ;-)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Is this what you are reduced to, because you can't get anyone to
believe you, Larry? Really?


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