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On Dec 5, 6:46*pm, Tezza wrote:
On 05/12/2011 18:27, Dave Cornwell wrote:
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Worryingly, I'm finding this cold going right through me. I'm going to
have to start wearing old peoples clothes to combat this now I've turned
61. Also my eyes won't stop watering, even when I get indoors. This
could also be a "getting old" thing as the doctor says your tears don't
drain away so well and I might have to have the eye equivalent of a
stent in my tear duct. How long will my snow loving last? I've seen
others waver with age.
Dave


I wavered when I was 17. *That was in the dim and distant '70s.

T


Possibly a little later, say 21, when I'd left University and
had to get from A to B to get to a job or for a social life (i.e.
pulling birds, not that I was terribly good at it). These things are
actually more important than the weather. I'll say that again. These
things are actually more important than the weather. Ask a keen
cricketer what he thinks of rain even if he has measured it
meticulously for years. You don't have to like everything about the
weather to be keenly interested in it. To talk of "wavering" is the
language of religion and implies that only the truly devout are real
weather enthusiasts. This is nonsense - I first kept records when I
was 11, 58 years ago, and still do, as keenly as ever if not more so.
Snow is very interesting, spectacular even, but once the boyish
thrill has worn off (rather quickly) it's simply a pain. As Philip
Larkin might have said "They f*** you up, snow and ice."

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey

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On 06/12/2011 00:50, Dave Cornwell wrote:
Eskimo Will wrote:

"Dave Cornwell" wrote in message
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Lawrence13 wrote:
On Dec 5, 5:24 pm, "Eskimo Will" wrote:
Interesting looking at the MetO ensemble output today (not publicly
available) and the 12Z runs. Deep and stubborn very cold air over
Greenland
continues to leak south reinforcing the jet and low-level
baroclinic zone
maintaining the cold westerly type with a north-south gradient in
temperature. Already sleet has reached high ground in the SW with
snow in
Wales. Over the next few days it looks like we will get some milder
interludes in the south as deep lows spin up in mid-Atlantic and
buckle the
flow. Also the baroclinicity sinks south putting the UK bang in
the firing
line for some rapid deepeners later on with cold air entrained,
which will
be quite exciting! Only a small chance now of high pressure
establishing
over UK or near continent. The picture is one of continuing cold
zonality
with increased high potential vorticity (energy) in the flow.

http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm

Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
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Well I have to say Will just been out for my walk and it was bitter
which took me aback seeing how much of the Atlantic this air has been
over before it got here.

Truly Taters in Sydenahm with a cold bitter wind whistling through
Pound Land in the High Street. Better watch out for the Donar Kebabs
tonight -they good congeal very quickly and root people to bus stops
and the like.
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Worryingly, I'm finding this cold going right through me. I'm going
to have to start wearing old peoples clothes to combat this now I've
turned 61. Also my eyes won't stop watering, even when I get
indoors. This could also be a "getting old" thing as the doctor says
your tears don't drain away so well and I might have to have the eye
equivalent of a stent in my tear duct. How long will my snow loving
last? I've seen others waver with age.
Dave


Well my new sledge is in the garage waiting for my 59.5 year old body
to get on it and go careering down the hills. Hopefully Father
Christmas will being me some new walking shoes as well so I can go
yomping in the Dartmoor snow in the New Year. I want to be buried in
a snow tomb when I finally go, hopefully in a couple of decades or so
yet, LOL :-)
Your'e as young as the woman you feel Dave! :-)

http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
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The secret if you want to walk pain free is don't play knee damaging
competitive sport till your 50! But I enjoyed it! I'm a por man's
Ledley King :-(


I started playing cricket in my 49th year. It was the umpiring which
was doing in the knees!

Even after abusing the knees by diving on them - and occasionally
stopping the ball with them instead of the preferred method (hands) -
they are in better shape now than at the end of 30 years of standing
around umpiring.

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On Dec 5, 5:24*pm, "Eskimo Will" wrote:
Interesting looking at the MetO ensemble output today (not publicly
available) and the 12Z runs. Deep and stubborn very cold air over Greenland
continues to leak south reinforcing the jet and low-level baroclinic zone
maintaining the cold westerly type with a north-south gradient in
temperature. Already sleet has reached high ground in the SW with snow in
Wales. Over the next few days it looks like we will get some milder
interludes in the south as deep lows spin up in mid-Atlantic and buckle the
flow. Also the baroclinicity sinks south putting the UK bang in the firing
line for some rapid deepeners later on with cold air entrained, which will
be quite exciting! Only a small chance now of high pressure establishing
over UK or near continent. The picture is one of continuing cold zonality
with increased high potential vorticity (energy) in the flow.

http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
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Just to illustrate my point that we have *not* had a "cold westerly"
across the UK for the last 10 days; the first 5 days of December, in
the CET region, had a temperature a smidgeon above average for early
December and we all know that November was the second coldest on
record in the UK and in the CET region the second warmest November in
353 years. The last week did very little to reduce the CET.

This talk of a cold westerly has been fantasy, up to 2 days ago for
much of the UK and a little longer in Scotland. Now, the situation is
more akin to what Will has been wanting us to think it has been since
the last week of November. I really am fed up with the exaggerration
for effect and to back up a post where a "cold westerly" was
apparently established a few days before almost UK record temperatures
in Aberdeen at 15.7C on 26th Nov.

We have had zonal weather since about 24/11/2011; it was well flagged
by the models and gave me 2 correct forecasts on the 27th and 30th
Nov. It has actually been warmer than average over the UK, *as a
whole*, during the 10-day period from then, up to the 4th. The
temperatures don't lie, I'm afraid.
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LOL!
did the snow, frost, cold wind come up on a mild southwesterley?

in DENIAL!
KEEP DIGGING! were loving it.




On 06/12/2011 9:36 PM, Dawlish wrote:


Just to illustrate my point that we have *not* had a "cold westerly"

This talk of a cold westerly has been fantasy,

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On Dec 6, 12:50*am, Dave Cornwell wrote:

The secret if you want to walk pain free is don't play knee damaging
competitive sport till your 50!


Actually when you reach a "certain age", the stiffness in one's joints
becomes a matter of what sort of and how much protein you feed them.
A day on plain boiled vegetables will soon sort out a day of
overdosing. If you ignore the first warnings of over-indulgence
stricter denials may be called for.

Also the biblical adage of "small beer" or "little wine" instead of
caffeinated beverages will answer for much in a constitution so
afflicted.


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LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


On 06/12/2011 9:36 PM, Dawlish wrote:


Just to illustrate my point that we have *not* had a "cold westerly"
across the UK for the last 10 days;

This talk of a cold westerly has been fantasy,

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SORRY WHAT WAS THAT?

BACKUP UP YOUR COMMENTS?




LOL!



On 06/12/2011 9:36 PM, Dawlish wrote:

Just to illustrate my point that we have *not* had a "cold westerly"
across the UK for the last 10 days;



This talk of a cold westerly has been fantasy,



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