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If anyone could explain to me what happened in 1981 which was worse
than the October 1987 storm, I'd be most grateful because apparently I
missed it ;-)

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On Dec 12, 12:50*pm, Nick wrote:
If anyone could explain to me what happened in 1981 which was worse
than the October 1987 storm, I'd be most grateful because apparently I
missed it ;-)

Nick


*)) "Hurricane force winds for the SW" a "Western Morning News"
billboard headline outside WHS in Teignmouth this morning. We'll see!
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Whilst someone is thinking of something appropriate to say to the Express's
editor they could mention that their forecast for the 'deep freeze to hit
Britain by the end of November' should be confined to the Cairngorms and the
Snake Pass.

RonB


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On Dec 12, 12:50 pm, Nick wrote:
If anyone could explain to me what happened in 1981 which was worse
than the October 1987 storm, I'd be most grateful because apparently I
missed it ;-)

Nick


*)) "Hurricane force winds for the SW" a "Western Morning News"
billboard headline outside WHS in Teignmouth this morning. We'll see!


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On Dec 12, 12:50*pm, Nick wrote:
If anyone could explain to me what happened in 1981 which was worse
than the October 1987 storm, I'd be most grateful because apparently I
missed it ;-)

Nick


Penlee (Mousehole) lifeboat sank in F11 gale. F12 over the sea
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/d...00/2539173.stm
I believe all the creew were from Mousehole which is a village. Only 1
person from each family was allowed on the lifeboat. I can highly
recommend
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Penlee-Loss-...3696579&sr=1-1
which gives a gripping & chilling account from someone close to the
disaster.

Only once since ( 2004 http://www.turnstone-cottage.co.uk/PzStorm.PDF
) have sea conditions been remotely like it in Mount's Bay, though
wind speeds were far less. The highest wind speeds since were probably
in March 2008.

There is a memorial near the old lifeboat house.

Yes, in mean wind speeds over land, it was worse than the 1987 storm.
I don't know if anyone has the Gwennap Head data, but I know locally
gusts exceeded 100mph.

Graham
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On Dec 12, 1:20*pm, "ronaldbutton" wrote:
Whilst someone is thinking of something appropriate to say to the Express's
editor they could mention that their forecast for the 'deep freeze to hit
Britain by the end of November' should be confined to the Cairngorms and the
Snake Pass.

RonB

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On Dec 12, 12:50 pm, Nick wrote:

If anyone could explain to me what happened in 1981 which was worse
than the October 1987 storm, I'd be most grateful because apparently I
missed it ;-)


Nick


*)) "Hurricane force winds for the SW" a "Western Morning News"
billboard headline outside WHS in Teignmouth this morning. We'll see!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Developing hurricane force on this 96 hr forecast for midday Friday
from Boston.

http://weather.noaa.gov/pub/fax/PWAM99.gif

Len Wood
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On Dec 12, 1:20*pm, "ronaldbutton" wrote:
Whilst someone is thinking of something appropriate to say to the Express's
editor they could mention that their forecast for the 'deep freeze to hit
Britain by the end of November' should be confined to the Cairngorms and the
Snake Pass.


What part of the world are they in then?

Or do you work for the BBC?
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Nick writes:
If anyone could explain to me what happened in 1981 which was worse
than the October 1987 storm, I'd be most grateful because apparently I
missed it ;-)

Nick


Maybe they are considering the size of the area affected as well as the
intensity? For once the Express does seem to have some excuse for
getting excited.
--
John Hall
"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism
by those who have not got it."
George Bernard Shaw
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In article
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Nick writes:
If anyone could explain to me what happened in 1981 which was worse
than the October 1987 storm, I'd be most grateful because apparently I
missed it ;-)

Nick


Maybe they are considering the size of the area affected as well as the
intensity? For once the Express does seem to have some excuse for
getting excited.


The area affected by the Burn's Night storm was very extensive
though, considerably larger than Oct '87 although I think on balance
1987 was more intense, certainly when you consider the return
period for the area affected.
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