On 13/12/2011 21:15, Lawrence13 wrote:
On Dec 13, 7:38 pm, wrote:
On Dec 13, 7:08 pm, Joe wrote:





On 13/12/2011 12:05, Lawrence13 wrote:

On Dec 13, 11:00 am, wrote:
On Dec 13, 10:46 am, Joe wrote:

I see the storm force winds for Thurs night \ Fri is going to only hit
the south coast and the south east. Can I expect the TV news to be
filled with 30 mins of people twittering on about, fences blowing down
and dustbins rolling down the road?

Have you seen how many bins we now have with the recycling initiatives
the Councils down here have been indulging in? We got another 2 last
week for "waste food" collections.

Likely to be like a WW2 anti-submarine fleet passing through, with all
those cylinders hurtling through the air here come Friday. :-)

- Tom
Blackmore, SW Essex.

In Lewisham and Southwark they now have the community bin also known
as the streets.

That's all over the UK , even in the countryside! LOL- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Start to clear it up. Take a lead. There's seldom any bottles/drinks
cans/plastic bottles in the streets around my house, because when I'm
out walking the dog, I pick them up, take them back with me and put
them in the recycling. Just small things like that make the streets
look tidier and that encourages people to keep them tidy. There's very
good research that shows that people further abuse areas which are
constantly untidy and litter-strewn, but don't do the same with areas
which are seen to be clean.

It takes nothing to pick up a few cans, or bottles. Start a trend and
you might be surprised at what improvements come from it.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I came out of my house this morning and somebody has dumped a Childs
mattress. Just over the road at the entrance to the Alexandra
recreation Park some pig has dumped the packaging of their flash wide
screen LED. This happens all the time now. The usual culprits are
thick ****s usually on Housing benefits and exempt from CT and yes
generalisations are pretty accurate nowadays. So what we have if
people who actually pay exorbitant council tax, diligently recycling
their rubbish, whilst those that pay nothing for their rubbish
collection think nothing of dumping it at the end of a nice quiet road
or in the hedge of someone who does pay for their rubbish collection.

Yes it is commendable that you pick up rubbish when you see it, but it
isn't commendable paying for and suffering at the hands of, the
rubbish that is increasingly populating our country.


Only lefties like you think that way and the irony is it's people like
you who have indulged this behaviour for several decades, are the
primary cause of the standards we suffer from today in what is
essentially a deteriorating society.


What you are saying Lawrence is, by making people homeless, you'll have
a cleaner society. Yet the people that you make homeless, by not giving
them housing benefit or council tax, will be even more excluded from
society. Are you sure homeless people will have more civic pride?

On 13/12/2011 21:15, Lawrence13 wrote:
On Dec 13, 7:38 pm, wrote:
On Dec 13, 7:08 pm, Joe wrote:





On 13/12/2011 12:05, Lawrence13 wrote:

On Dec 13, 11:00 am, wrote:
On Dec 13, 10:46 am, Joe wrote:

I see the storm force winds for Thurs night \ Fri is going to only hit
the south coast and the south east. Can I expect the TV news to be
filled with 30 mins of people twittering on about, fences blowing down
and dustbins rolling down the road?

Have you seen how many bins we now have with the recycling initiatives
the Councils down here have been indulging in? We got another 2 last
week for "waste food" collections.

Likely to be like a WW2 anti-submarine fleet passing through, with all
those cylinders hurtling through the air here come Friday. :-)

- Tom
Blackmore, SW Essex.

In Lewisham and Southwark they now have the community bin also known
as the streets.

That's all over the UK , even in the countryside! LOL- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Start to clear it up. Take a lead. There's seldom any bottles/drinks
cans/plastic bottles in the streets around my house, because when I'm
out walking the dog, I pick them up, take them back with me and put
them in the recycling. Just small things like that make the streets
look tidier and that encourages people to keep them tidy. There's very
good research that shows that people further abuse areas which are
constantly untidy and litter-strewn, but don't do the same with areas
which are seen to be clean.

It takes nothing to pick up a few cans, or bottles. Start a trend and
you might be surprised at what improvements come from it.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I came out of my house this morning and somebody has dumped a Childs
mattress. Just over the road at the entrance to the Alexandra
recreation Park some pig has dumped the packaging of their flash wide
screen LED. This happens all the time now. The usual culprits are
thick ****s usually on Housing benefits and exempt from CT and yes
generalisations are pretty accurate nowadays. So what we have if
people who actually pay exorbitant council tax, diligently recycling
their rubbish, whilst those that pay nothing for their rubbish
collection think nothing of dumping it at the end of a nice quiet road
or in the hedge of someone who does pay for their rubbish collection.

Yes it is commendable that you pick up rubbish when you see it, but it
isn't commendable paying for and suffering at the hands of, the
rubbish that is increasingly populating our country.


Only lefties like you think that way and the irony is it's people like
you who have indulged this behaviour for several decades, are the
primary cause of the standards we suffer from today in what is
essentially a deteriorating society.


What you are saying Lawrence is, by making people homeless, you'll have
a cleaner society. Yet the people that you make homeless, by not giving
them housing benefit or council tax rebate, will be even more excluded
from society. Are you sure homeless people will have more civic pride?

On Dec 13, 10:12*pm, Joe Egginton wrote:
On 13/12/2011 21:15, Lawrence13 wrote:





On Dec 13, 7:38 pm, *wrote:
On Dec 13, 7:08 pm, Joe *wrote:

On 13/12/2011 12:05, Lawrence13 wrote:

On Dec 13, 11:00 am, * *wrote:
On Dec 13, 10:46 am, Joe * *wrote:

I see the storm force winds for Thurs night \ Fri is going to only hit
the south coast and the south east. *Can I expect the TV news to be
filled with 30 mins of people twittering on about, fences blowing down
and dustbins rolling down the road?

Have you seen how many bins we now have with the recycling initiatives
the Councils down here have been indulging in? *We got another 2 last
week for "waste food" collections.

Likely to be like a WW2 anti-submarine fleet passing through, with all
those cylinders hurtling through the air here come Friday. *:-)

- Tom
Blackmore, SW Essex.

In Lewisham and Southwark they now have the community bin also known
as *the streets.

That's all over the UK , even in the countryside! LOL- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Start to clear it up. Take a lead. There's seldom any bottles/drinks
cans/plastic bottles in the streets around my house, because when I'm
out walking the dog, I pick them up, take them back with me and put
them in the recycling. Just small things like that make the streets
look tidier and that encourages people to keep them tidy. There's very
good research that shows that people further abuse areas which are
constantly untidy and litter-strewn, but don't do the same with areas
which are seen to be clean.

It takes nothing to pick up a few cans, or bottles. Start a trend and
you might be surprised at what improvements come from it.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I came out of my house this morning and somebody has dumped a Childs
mattress. Just over the road at the entrance to the Alexandra
recreation Park some pig has dumped the packaging of their flash wide
screen LED. This happens all the time now. The usual culprits are
thick ****s usually on Housing benefits and exempt from CT and yes
generalisations are pretty accurate nowadays. So what we have if
people who actually pay exorbitant council tax, diligently recycling
their rubbish, whilst those that pay nothing for their rubbish
collection think nothing of dumping it at the end of a nice quiet road
or in the hedge of someone who does pay for their rubbish collection.

Yes it is commendable that you pick up rubbish when you see it, but it
isn't commendable paying for and suffering at the hands of, the
rubbish that is increasingly populating our country.

Only lefties like you think that way and the irony is it's people like
you who *have indulged this behaviour for several decades, are the
primary cause of the standards we suffer from today in what is
essentially a deteriorating society.

What you are saying Lawrence is, by making people homeless, you'll have
a cleaner society. *Yet the people that you make homeless, by not giving
them housing benefit or council tax, will be even more excluded from
society. *Are you sure homeless people will have more civic pride?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Listen Joe my sister and her two daughter have never worked been
living in nice accomodation all their lives.; Of course they have had
several children each my several diffrent fathers each, which
disadavantages them when it comes to housing priority as they go first
in the queue in front of those that actually work in low paid
employment. Why do you thinkl the labour party opened up the floodgate
for immigrants to come here and cover the work our own people didn't
fancy doing -so I'll leave it there. Victims the lot of them. Anyway
this thread turned into a speil about people that dump rubbish
anywhere and how they tend to be the people whom don't actually pay
for rubbish collection via Council Tax as they are exempt.

On Dec 13, 9:27*pm, Scott W wrote:
On Dec 13, 9:15*pm, Lawrence13 wrote:





On Dec 13, 7:38*pm, Dawlish wrote:

On Dec 13, 7:08*pm, Joe Egginton wrote:

On 13/12/2011 12:05, Lawrence13 wrote:

On Dec 13, 11:00 am, *wrote:
On Dec 13, 10:46 am, Joe *wrote:

I see the storm force winds for Thurs night \ Fri is going to only hit
the south coast and the south east. *Can I expect the TV news to be
filled with 30 mins of people twittering on about, fences blowing down
and dustbins rolling down the road?

Have you seen how many bins we now have with the recycling initiatives
the Councils down here have been indulging in? *We got another 2 last
week for "waste food" collections.

Likely to be like a WW2 anti-submarine fleet passing through, with all
those cylinders hurtling through the air here come Friday. *:-)

- Tom
Blackmore, SW Essex.

In Lewisham and Southwark they now have the community bin also known
as *the streets.

That's all over the UK , even in the countryside! LOL- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Start to clear it up. Take a lead. There's seldom any bottles/drinks
cans/plastic bottles in the streets around my house, because when I'm
out walking the dog, I pick them up, take them back with me and put
them in the recycling. Just small things like that make the streets
look tidier and that encourages people to keep them tidy. There's very
good research that shows that people further abuse areas which are
constantly untidy and litter-strewn, but don't do the same with areas
which are seen to be clean.

It takes nothing to pick up a few cans, or bottles. Start a trend and
you might be surprised at what improvements come from it.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I came out of my house this morning and somebody has dumped a Childs
mattress. Just over the road at the entrance to the Alexandra
recreation Park some pig has dumped the packaging of their flash wide
screen LED. This happens all the time now. The usual culprits are
thick ****s usually on Housing benefits and exempt from CT and yes
generalisations are pretty accurate nowadays. So what we have if
people who actually pay exorbitant council tax, diligently recycling
their rubbish, whilst those that pay nothing for their rubbish
collection think nothing of dumping it at the end of a nice quiet road
or in the hedge of someone who does pay for their rubbish collection.

Yes it is commendable that you pick up rubbish when you see it, but it
isn't commendable paying for and suffering at the hands of, the
rubbish that is increasingly populating our country.

Only lefties like you think that way and the irony is it's people like
you who *have indulged this behaviour for several decades, are the
primary cause of the standards we suffer from today in what is
essentially a deteriorating society.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Why does picking up a few sweet wrappers and drinks cans somehow make
you leftwing? I've been recycling since the early 80s. If I see people
chucking rubbish out of their cars and the car is in slow moving
traffic I've been known to chuck it back into their car. It usually
leads to a torrent of abuse - but the culprit (often a well-heeled
person in a nice car - not DSS) is usually so embarrased that it has
yet to end in violence...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I've done the same - I did it with a still lit, discarded, cigarette
butt once, years ago. I'll never forget how the puzzled look on the
man's face changed in an instant, when I dropped it back into his
outstretched hand! *))

I made a decision not to drop litter when I was a teenager and I've
never, knowingly, dropped, or left, a single piece of rubbish since.
It's nothing special; it's just something I do. If others would do the
same and pick up the odd can and take it back for recycling, their
world would be a tiny bit better place - and so would everyone else's.
It only makes you left wing to very grumpy old men who'd be better off
emigrating. *))

On 13/12/11 21:27, Scott W wrote:

Why does picking up a few sweet wrappers and drinks cans somehow make
you leftwing?

It's thoughtful and community spirited, as opposed to a selfish,
insular, 'it's not my responsibility, sod it' attitude.

On 14/12/2011 06:41, Dawlish wrote:
On Dec 13, 9:27 pm, Scott wrote:
On Dec 13, 9:15 pm, wrote:





On Dec 13, 7:38 pm, wrote:

On Dec 13, 7:08 pm, Joe wrote:

On 13/12/2011 12:05, Lawrence13 wrote:

On Dec 13, 11:00 am, wrote:
On Dec 13, 10:46 am, Joe wrote:

I see the storm force winds for Thurs night \ Fri is going to only hit
the south coast and the south east. Can I expect the TV news to be
filled with 30 mins of people twittering on about, fences blowing down
and dustbins rolling down the road?

Have you seen how many bins we now have with the recycling initiatives
the Councils down here have been indulging in? We got another 2 last
week for "waste food" collections.

Likely to be like a WW2 anti-submarine fleet passing through, with all
those cylinders hurtling through the air here come Friday. :-)

- Tom
Blackmore, SW Essex.

In Lewisham and Southwark they now have the community bin also known
as the streets.

That's all over the UK , even in the countryside! LOL- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Start to clear it up. Take a lead. There's seldom any bottles/drinks
cans/plastic bottles in the streets around my house, because when I'm
out walking the dog, I pick them up, take them back with me and put
them in the recycling. Just small things like that make the streets
look tidier and that encourages people to keep them tidy. There's very
good research that shows that people further abuse areas which are
constantly untidy and litter-strewn, but don't do the same with areas
which are seen to be clean.

It takes nothing to pick up a few cans, or bottles. Start a trend and
you might be surprised at what improvements come from it.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I came out of my house this morning and somebody has dumped a Childs
mattress. Just over the road at the entrance to the Alexandra
recreation Park some pig has dumped the packaging of their flash wide
screen LED. This happens all the time now. The usual culprits are
thick ****s usually on Housing benefits and exempt from CT and yes
generalisations are pretty accurate nowadays. So what we have if
people who actually pay exorbitant council tax, diligently recycling
their rubbish, whilst those that pay nothing for their rubbish
collection think nothing of dumping it at the end of a nice quiet road
or in the hedge of someone who does pay for their rubbish collection.

Yes it is commendable that you pick up rubbish when you see it, but it
isn't commendable paying for and suffering at the hands of, the
rubbish that is increasingly populating our country.

Only lefties like you think that way and the irony is it's people like
you who have indulged this behaviour for several decades, are the
primary cause of the standards we suffer from today in what is
essentially a deteriorating society.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Why does picking up a few sweet wrappers and drinks cans somehow make
you leftwing? I've been recycling since the early 80s. If I see people
chucking rubbish out of their cars and the car is in slow moving
traffic I've been known to chuck it back into their car. It usually
leads to a torrent of abuse - but the culprit (often a well-heeled
person in a nice car - not DSS) is usually so embarrased that it has
yet to end in violence...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I've done the same - I did it with a still lit, discarded, cigarette
butt once, years ago. I'll never forget how the puzzled look on the
man's face changed in an instant, when I dropped it back into his
outstretched hand! *))

I made a decision not to drop litter when I was a teenager and I've
never, knowingly, dropped, or left, a single piece of rubbish since.
It's nothing special; it's just something I do. If others would do the
same and pick up the odd can and take it back for recycling, their
world would be a tiny bit better place - and so would everyone else's.
It only makes you left wing to very grumpy old men who'd be better off
emigrating. *))

I was brought up to put litter in bins. I used to until about the
1990's when I thought what the point? Not having civic pride seems to
be a particularly British affliction probably because of the lazzaire
faire attitude we've had towards the economy and socially.

I still put my litter in bins in a tidy place and I don't dump it in the
countryside.

In rough places, if I see a beer/pop can on the pavement I usually kick
it into the gutter or up a corner.

On Dec 13, 9:27*pm, Scott W wrote:

Why does picking up a few sweet wrappers and drinks cans somehow make
you leftwing?

Because you use your right hand to eat with you Muslim terrrrst!

Hang on..

Oops wrong newsgroup. Sorry.

On 13/12/2011 23:08, Lawrence13 wrote:

this thread turned into a speil about people that dump rubbish
anywhere and how they tend to be the people whom don't actually pay
for rubbish collection via Council Tax as they are exempt.

Round here they tend to be one of two main sorts:

Road warriors dumping their KFC/McDonald junk food containers out of
the car window. Amazing since it is more than 10 miles to nearest one.

White van men dumping the results of building work because they cannot
be bothered to take it to the tip. Flytipping instead.

Both groups are typically right wing selfish individuals who care
nothing for the countryside and throw rubbish out of their vehicle
without a second thought. I would put the VAT back on take away food
to pay for street cleaning!

Regards,
Martin Brown

"Adam Lea" wrote in message
...
On 13/12/11 21:27, Scott W wrote:

Why does picking up a few sweet wrappers and drinks cans somehow make
you leftwing?

It's thoughtful and community spirited, as opposed to a selfish, insular,
'it's not my responsibility, sod it' attitude.

Perhaps anti-littering laws should be properly enforced (I know
that's difficult in practice) rather than community-spirited people
feeling obliged to clear up the mess made by others.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl

what about the litter you left all over mr googles usenet archive?

KEEP DAWLISH TIDY

On 14/12/2011 6:41 AM, Dawlish wrote:


I made a decision not to drop litter when I was a teenager and I've
never, knowingly, dropped, or left, a single piece of rubbish since.