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I apologise for being somewhat OT, but am I the only one irritated to the
nth degree by Jeremy Paxman pronouncing the word “meteorology” as “mee-tree-ology”? He’s been doing it for years. You would have thought someone would have told him by now or, as the erudite fellow he seems to be, he would have looked at the word and worked it out for himself. And while I’m about it, even more OT, have you noticed how in all media, people are saying “epicentre” when all they mean is “centre”. Sounds more technical, you see. And then there’s the word “dissect”. Almost everyone pronounces it “dye-sect”, but there’s a double ‘s’ so the ‘i’ is short. Even highly educated people do this. Phew, that’s better! Ian Bingham, Inchmarlo, Aberdeenshire. |
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On Dec 31, 10:35*am, "Ian Bingham"
wrote: I apologise for being somewhat OT, but am I the only one irritated to the nth degree by Jeremy Paxman pronouncing the word meteorology as mee-tree-ology? *Hes been doing it for years. *You would have thought someone would have told him by now or, as the erudite fellow he seems to be, he would have looked at the word and worked it out for himself. And while Im about it, even more OT, have you noticed how in all media, people are saying epicentre when all they mean is centre. * Sounds more technical, you see. And then theres the word dissect. *Almost everyone pronounces it dye-sect, but theres a double s so the i is short. * Even highly educated people do this. Phew, thats better! Ian Bingham, Inchmarlo, Aberdeenshire. You've been watching University Challenge, haven't you? Good man. Nobody can tell Paxo anything of course though he has yet to meet me, for instance. You're dead right about "dissect" and "epicentre" also. What about "anticipate" as posh for "expect"? I won't bore the group with the very worthwhile distinction. While we're on about journalists, have you noticed the very curious intonation of those reporting from various places? Also, they talk about eye-WITnesses as oppeosed to EYE-witnesses. Weird lot - are they of this world? I think I'd rather listen to like up-speak? Now I must go and kickstart the car as I go through the course of the afternoon period. Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey. |
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Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Dec 31, 10:35 am, "Ian Bingham" wrote: I apologise for being somewhat OT, but am I the only one irritated to the nth degree by Jeremy Paxman pronouncing the word meteorology as mee-tree-ology? Hes been doing it for years. You would have thought someone would have told him by now or, as the erudite fellow he seems to be, he would have looked at the word and worked it out for himself. And while Im about it, even more OT, have you noticed how in all media, people are saying epicentre when all they mean is centre. Sounds more technical, you see. And then theres the word dissect. Almost everyone pronounces it dye-sect, but theres a double s so the i is short. Even highly educated people do this. Phew, thats better! Ian Bingham, Inchmarlo, Aberdeenshire. You've been watching University Challenge, haven't you? Good man. Nobody can tell Paxo anything of course though he has yet to meet me, for instance. You're dead right about "dissect" and "epicentre" also. What about "anticipate" as posh for "expect"? I won't bore the group with the very worthwhile distinction. While we're on about journalists, have you noticed the very curious intonation of those reporting from various places? Also, they talk about eye-WITnesses as oppeosed to EYE-witnesses. Weird lot - are they of this world? I think I'd rather listen to like up-speak? Now I must go and kickstart the car as I go through the course of the afternoon period. Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey. -------------------------- Another notable thing with our Jeremy is his bias to the arts. You will get somebody getting some genuinely difficult PhD history question and he will deride them and basically say "How stupid ,it obviously couldn't be the Venerable Bede" then the question will be an O'level (GCSE for the younger) question such as "What is the chemical symbol for lead?" and when the answer is Pu he says "Oh, bad luck, you were only one letter out" Despite that, I quite like him in a way and my daughter who has spoken to him as part of her job said he was very pleasant. After all it could be even worse - I mean what is the point of a dumbed down Celebrity Mastermind that just can't be dumbed enough. There was some woman, my wife says something to do with the X-factor, who when asked the name of the famous white sparkilng wine from a northern region of France said "Jacob's Creek" . The other answers were as cringe worthy. Dave |
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![]() "Dave Cornwell" wrote in message ... Tudor Hughes wrote: On Dec 31, 10:35 am, "Ian Bingham" wrote: I apologise for being somewhat OT, but am I the only one irritated to the nth degree by Jeremy Paxman pronouncing the word meteorology as mee-tree-ology? Hes been doing it for years. You would have thought someone would have told him by now or, as the erudite fellow he seems to be, he would have looked at the word and worked it out for himself. And while Im about it, even more OT, have you noticed how in all media, people are saying epicentre when all they mean is centre. Sounds more technical, you see. And then theres the word dissect. Almost everyone pronounces it dye-sect, but theres a double s so the i is short. Even highly educated people do this. Phew, thats better! Ian Bingham, Inchmarlo, Aberdeenshire. You've been watching University Challenge, haven't you? Good man. Nobody can tell Paxo anything of course though he has yet to meet me, for instance. You're dead right about "dissect" and "epicentre" also. What about "anticipate" as posh for "expect"? I won't bore the group with the very worthwhile distinction. While we're on about journalists, have you noticed the very curious intonation of those reporting from various places? Also, they talk about eye-WITnesses as oppeosed to EYE-witnesses. Weird lot - are they of this world? I think I'd rather listen to like up-speak? Now I must go and kickstart the car as I go through the course of the afternoon period. Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey. -------------------------- Another notable thing with our Jeremy is his bias to the arts. You will get somebody getting some genuinely difficult PhD history question and he will deride them and basically say "How stupid ,it obviously couldn't be the Venerable Bede" then the question will be an O'level (GCSE for the younger) question such as "What is the chemical symbol for lead?" and when the answer is Pu he says "Oh, bad luck, you were only one letter out" Despite that, I quite like him in a way and my daughter who has spoken to him as part of her job said he was very pleasant. After all it could be even worse - I mean what is the point of a dumbed down Celebrity Mastermind that just can't be dumbed enough. There was some woman, my wife says something to do with the X-factor, who when asked the name of the famous white sparkilng wine from a northern region of France said "Jacob's Creek" . The other answers were as cringe worthy. Dave Yes, I've noticed his bias towards the Arts. I think most of those BBC types are Arts graduates. But I think Paxo does a good job on University Challenge. Strong men have blanched before his thunderous "YOU MAY NOT CONFER". I just wish he could pronounce the word "Meteorology", that's all. Ian. |
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On Jan 1, 6:37*am, "Ian Bingham"
wrote: "Dave Cornwell" *wrote in ... Tudor Hughes wrote: On Dec 31, 10:35 am, "Ian Bingham" wrote: I apologise for being somewhat OT, but am I the only one irritated to the nth degree by Jeremy Paxman pronouncing the word meteorology as mee-tree-ology? *Hes been doing it for years. snip No to be confused with "Metrology" either ....... |
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On 01/01/2012 06:37, Ian Bingham wrote:
"Dave Cornwell" wrote in message ... Tudor Hughes wrote: On Dec 31, 10:35 am, "Ian Bingham" wrote: I apologise for being somewhat OT, but am I the only one irritated to the nth degree by Jeremy Paxman pronouncing the word meteorology as mee-tree-ology? Hes been doing it for years. You would have thought someone would have told him by now or, as the erudite fellow he seems to be, he would have looked at the word and worked it out for himself. And while Im about it, even more OT, have you noticed how in all media, people are saying epicentre when all they mean is centre. Sounds more technical, you see. And then theres the word dissect. Almost everyone pronounces it dye-sect, but theres a double s so the i is short. Even highly educated people do this. Phew, thats better! Ian Bingham, Inchmarlo, Aberdeenshire. You've been watching University Challenge, haven't you? Good man. Nobody can tell Paxo anything of course though he has yet to meet me, for instance. You're dead right about "dissect" and "epicentre" also. What about "anticipate" as posh for "expect"? I won't bore the group with the very worthwhile distinction. While we're on about journalists, have you noticed the very curious intonation of those reporting from various places? Also, they talk about eye-WITnesses as oppeosed to EYE-witnesses. Weird lot - are they of this world? I think I'd rather listen to like up-speak? Now I must go and kickstart the car as I go through the course of the afternoon period. Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey. -------------------------- Another notable thing with our Jeremy is his bias to the arts. You will get somebody getting some genuinely difficult PhD history question and he will deride them and basically say "How stupid ,it obviously couldn't be the Venerable Bede" then the question will be an O'level (GCSE for the younger) question such as "What is the chemical symbol for lead?" and when the answer is Pu he says "Oh, bad luck, you were only one letter out" Despite that, I quite like him in a way and my daughter who has spoken to him as part of her job said he was very pleasant. After all it could be even worse - I mean what is the point of a dumbed down Celebrity Mastermind that just can't be dumbed enough. There was some woman, my wife says something to do with the X-factor, who when asked the name of the famous white sparkilng wine from a northern region of France said "Jacob's Creek" . The other answers were as cringe worthy. Dave Yes, I've noticed his bias towards the Arts. I think most of those BBC types are Arts graduates. But I think Paxo does a good job on University Challenge. Strong men have blanched before his thunderous "YOU MAY NOT CONFER". I just wish he could pronounce the word "Meteorology", that's all. Ian. The bias towards arts and media studies is now notable on all quiz shows of whatever standard, to the point where in spite of holding an array of (science based) qualifications and high IQ, it would be a waste of time me entering any of these quizzes as I would be "floored" by all the questions asking who starred in this film or that soap opera. Such things may be very interesting, but they do not make the world go round. Or, to put it another way, if it wasn't for the apparently rapidly shrinking ranks of scientists, there would be no "media" for the "media studies" students to study. If you think from this that my impression of education today is not great, you would not be wrong - an impression strengthened by figures published which show that the chances of getting 3 straight "A*"s (the new top-level qualification) at "A" level today are about the same as me getting my three straight "A"s at "A" level were in the mid-1970s. And it was very rare then to see anyone take more than 3 "A" levels - there wasn't time to do the work required. Of course there hasn't been any "grade inflation" or "dumbing down" of the curriculum. Mind you, lack of general scientific knowledge is not that new or confined to TV quizzes. In the days of my youth, I got a question in our local village quiz - "What is the common name for 'Tinnitus' ". Much to the merriment of the audience, I chirpily answered "Ringing in the ears". The look on the QM's face when he read the answer off the card was a treat to see. -- - Yokel - Yokel posts via a spam-trap account which is not read. |
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Yokel writes: The bias towards arts and media studies is now notable on all quiz shows of whatever standard, to the point where in spite of holding an array of (science based) qualifications and high IQ, it would be a waste of time me entering any of these quizzes as I would be "floored" by all the questions asking who starred in this film or that soap opera. The bias towards the arts and against science isn't new. I can remember it from watching University Challenge in the 1970s. I imagine it's because most TV production staff and presenters are arts graduates. However the large number of questions in most quizzes which deal with "popular culture" - films, TV shows, pop music and "celebrities" - is I think a fairly recent development. Another symptom of this dumbing down is the starting of "media studies" courses and the like at many universities. I'd prefer it if our universities only taught what I regard as proper academic subjects. I suppose it's an inevitable consequence of the target of getting 50% of the school population to go on to university. (Which of course in turn has made the university system far more costly and led to the state no longer being willing to subsidise students as in the past.) Rant over. -- John Hall "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." George Bernard Shaw |
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On 01/01/2012 15:49, John Hall wrote:
In , writes: The bias towards arts and media studies is now notable on all quiz shows of whatever standard, to the point where in spite of holding an array of (science based) qualifications and high IQ, it would be a waste of time me entering any of these quizzes as I would be "floored" by all the questions asking who starred in this film or that soap opera. The bias towards the arts and against science isn't new. I can remember it from watching University Challenge in the 1970s. I imagine it's because most TV production staff and presenters are arts graduates. However the large number of questions in most quizzes which deal with "popular culture" - films, TV shows, pop music and "celebrities" - is I think a fairly recent development. Another symptom of this dumbing down is the starting of "media studies" courses and the like at many universities. I'd prefer it if our universities only taught what I regard as proper academic subjects. I suppose it's an inevitable consequence of the target of getting 50% of the school population to go on to university. (Which of course in turn has made the university system far more costly and led to the state no longer being willing to subsidise students as in the past.) Rant over. A very forgivable rant, and not far from the truth. I have thought for some time that if there is not enough money to go round, the government should concentrate its support on the skills society actually needs to maintain itself and let the rest sort themselves out. A situation where Physics departments are closing (the one I got part of my "combined" degree in has gone) while society is awash with media studies and sports science graduates is a recipe for disaster a few decades down the line. In case TPTB haven't noticed, this is now a hi-tech world we live in which needs real skills to maintain. -- - Yokel - Yokel posts via a spam-trap account which is not read. |
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