http://www.wunderground.com/blog/Jef...?entrynum=2010
--
Freddie
Bayston Hill
Shropshire
102m AMSL
http://www.hosiene.co.uk/weather/cumulus/

On Jan 6, 4:31*pm, "Freddie" wrote:
http://www.wunderground.com/blog/Jef...?entrynum=2010
--
Freddie
Bayston Hill
Shropshire
102m AMSLhttp://www.hosiene.co.uk/weather/cumulus/

Thanks Freddie. Interesting. Again it illustrates that the people who
were forecasting cold weather in the UK, or in the US, in December
were just guessing. The same is true of anyone saying that this winter
in the UK is just about to start, as no-one can forecast the second
half of January, or February, from the viewpoint of January 6th.
Simply don't believe anyone that is forecasting that and if they are
right this time, smile and know it was a hope for cold weather that
ended up correct. *))

On Jan 6, 4:48*pm, Dawlish wrote:
On Jan 6, 4:31*pm, "Freddie" wrote:

http://www.wunderground.com/blog/Jef...?entrynum=2010
--
Freddie
Bayston Hill
Shropshire
102m AMSLhttp://www.hosiene.co.uk/weather/cumulus/

Thanks Freddie. Interesting. Again it illustrates that the people who
were forecasting cold weather in the UK, or in the US, in December
were just guessing. The same is true of anyone saying that this winter
in the UK is just about to start, as no-one can forecast the second
half of January, or February, from the viewpoint of January 6th.
Simply don't believe anyone that is forecasting that and if they are
right this time, smile and know it was a hope for cold weather that
ended up correct. *))

I don't think anybody's forecasting cold weather, as such, just some
suptle changes in the patterns out at 10 days. The models seem to be
fluctuating now in the medium term, yes flip/flopping, but up to the
last few days it was zonal consistency. Of course with the current
weather, any change is going to mean colder, as if gets any warmer
I'll eat my hat ;-)

Keith (Southend)
http://www.southendweather.net
"Weather Home & Abroad"

On Jan 6, 7:50*pm, "Keith (Southend)G"
wrote:
On Jan 6, 4:48*pm, Dawlish wrote:





On Jan 6, 4:31*pm, "Freddie" wrote:

http://www.wunderground.com/blog/Jef...?entrynum=2010
--
Freddie
Bayston Hill
Shropshire
102m AMSLhttp://www.hosiene.co.uk/weather/cumulus/

Thanks Freddie. Interesting. Again it illustrates that the people who
were forecasting cold weather in the UK, or in the US, in December
were just guessing. The same is true of anyone saying that this winter
in the UK is just about to start, as no-one can forecast the second
half of January, or February, from the viewpoint of January 6th.
Simply don't believe anyone that is forecasting that and if they are
right this time, smile and know it was a hope for cold weather that
ended up correct. *))

I don't think anybody's forecasting cold weather, as such, just some
suptle changes in the patterns out at 10 days. The models seem to be
fluctuating now in the medium term, yes flip/flopping, but up to the
last few days it was zonal consistency. Of course with the current
weather, any change is going to mean colder, as if gets any warmer
I'll eat my hat ;-)

Keith (Southend)http://www.southendweather.net
"Weather Home & Abroad"

No, you are right, someone just has a "theme" of colder weather mid
month. Not a forecast at all. Wait and see if it turns colder and
watch what this turns into in hindsight. If it doesn't turn colder,
there unlikely to have been a forecast. *))

In article ,
Freddie writes:
http://www.wunderground.com/blog/Jef...?entrynum=2010

Thanks. That's a very interesting article.
--
John Hall
"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism
by those who have not got it."
George Bernard Shaw

On Jan 6, 8:38*pm, John Hall wrote:
In article ,

*Freddie writes:
http://www.wunderground.com/blog/Jef...?entrynum=2010

Thanks. That's a very interesting article.

Seconded :-)

Cheers, Alastair.

On 06/01/12 21:32, Alastair wrote:
On Jan 6, 8:38 pm, John wrote:
In ,

writes:
http://www.wunderground.com/blog/Jef...?entrynum=2010

Thanks. That's a very interesting article.

Seconded :-)

Cheers, Alastair.

Recent positive phase of AO *might* have shunted some of the old ice out
of the Arctic.

http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/2012/01/positively-arctic-arctic-oscillation-switches-phase/

--
Graham Davis, Bracknell, Berks. E-mail: change boy to man
Teach evolution, not creationism: http://evolutionnotcreationism.org.uk/

Freddie scrive:

http://www.wunderground.com/blog/Jef...?entrynum=2010

Of course, that was the coldest December in my record (last year was
colder but unrecorded). So I guess it just depends where you live because
relatively warm it was not.


--
Gianna
Peterhead, Scotland

buchan-meteo.org.uk

Of course, that was the coldest December in my record (last year was
colder but unrecorded). So I guess it just depends where you live because
relatively warm it was not.

Yeah, the article was describing areal averages over continents, rather than
points/locations. If you look at the article, very little of the UK
experienced significantly above average temperatures - but a huge proportion
of Europe (and the USA) did.
--
Freddie
Bayston Hill
Shropshire
102m AMSL
http://www.hosiene.co.uk/weather/cumulus/

In article ,
Buchan Meteo writes:
Freddie scrive:

http://www.wunderground.com/blog/Jef...?entrynum=2010

Of course, that was the coldest December in my record (last year was
colder but unrecorded). So I guess it just depends where you live because
relatively warm it was not.



?

He's talking about December 2011, as his section headings and the
captions to his graphics make clear, and I don't see how that can have
been the coldest December in your record. Don't be fooled by the
"entrynum=2010" bit of the URL; that's no more than a potentially
confusing coincidence which doesn't relate to the year.
--
John Hall
"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism
by those who have not got it."
George Bernard Shaw