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On Jan 13, 8:30*am, Stephen Davenport wrote:
There is a link but it doesn't necessarily always manifest. Two reads: Tropospheric Precursors of Anomalous Northern Hemisphere Stratospheric Polar Vortices Chaim I. Garfinkel and Dennis L. Hartmannhttp://www.eps.jhu.edu/~cig4/GHetal10.pdf The Life Cycle of the Northern Hemisphere Sudden Stratospheric Warmings Varqvut Limpasuvan, David W. J. Thompson, Dennis L. Hartmannhttp://www-k12.atmos.washington.edu/~dennis/Limpasuvan_etal_JClim_04.pdf The polar vortex is certainly being displaced and disrupted by stratospheric warming and cold cyclonicity in the troposphere will ensue end of next week. Northern blocking is another matter, though, and maybe people (not here) jump too quickly on the idea that any stratospheric warming automatically means high latitude blocking and subsequent frigid E-NE'lies for the UK. The EPV at 60N/10hPa might need to be more poleward than it's been or is forecast for that. In my opinion. Stephen. That's true. However the first paper does not deal with SSWs Stephen. It is about tropspheric precursors of disruptions to the polar votex and talks about ENSO and North Pacific teleconnections. The second paper I've read several times, though other research postdates it. It talks about disruption of the polar vortex, downward propogation of warming and wind anomalies and the development of easterly anomalies at 50-60 degrees north, but does not specify where these could occur, or the probability of this sequence actually occurring and changes reaching the surface i.e. there is no "will" whatsoever in terms of affecting our weather in the UK. It's what other, later, research shows too. This remains a minor event - there are no easterly anomalies, or reversal of winds at the 10hpa level - and forecasts are not for it developing into anything more. http://wekuw.met.fu-berlin.de/~Aktue...w/wdiag/ts.php A change in our weather is bound to happen, at some stage, after 6/7 weeks of continuous zonal weather and anyone making clear links between any changes and events in the stratosphere is very shaky ground and they have not grasped what the research clearly shows. Will prophesied continuing cold last year and a "bitter" end to January on the back of the development of a (minor but stronger) SSW. It simply didn't happen, but he's making exactly the same links again and expecting people to believe he knows the cause of any changes; changes which haven't yet actually happened. *)) |
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