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On 15/01/12 16:11, Col wrote:
"Eskimo wrote in message ... He he I'm the same David! Bedrpoom window is never shut and all radiators in the bedroom are permanently off, couldn't sleep otherwise. Occasionally close the window if it is windy to stop the doors rattling away or snow blowing in. Oh dear, another meeting of the 'who can keep their house the coldest during winter' brigade...... I am impressed that Will (and his wife, assuming he has one) can withstand having no heating and the windows open all winter. Might as well sleep outside :-). I have the windows shut and the thermostat set at around 12C when I get up in the morning and that is just about tolerable. |
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Col wrote:
"Eskimo Will" wrote in message ... He he I'm the same David! Bedrpoom window is never shut and all radiators in the bedroom are permanently off, couldn't sleep otherwise. Occasionally close the window if it is windy to stop the doors rattling away or snow blowing in. Oh dear, another meeting of the 'who can keep their house the coldest during winter' brigade...... --------------------------------------- All I can say is they must be unheathily "active" for their age or have a bloody heavy quilt ;-) |
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On 15/01/12 14:39, Tony Kenyon wrote:
We all know that mortality rates increase when the weather is colder (winter) and during the occasional heat waves. Being told to turn the heating up because it is cold seems a rather poor way to protect the vulnerable or do you think that vulnerable people are somehow unable to work this out for themselves? In some cases yes, they do seem unable to work it out for themselves and need constant reminding. With all due respect some people seem to have little in the way of initiative, partly, I suspect, due to our ever increasing reliance on technology with an associated decrease in the need (or desire) to think for oneself (think sat-nav incidents as a prime example of this). Also, as Dave pointed out, I fail to see how temperatures of plus 3 to plus 4 degrees can be described as severe cold in January in the East of England! No I'm not sure how either. I would have thought 3-4C daytime maxes were within two standard deviations of the mean at this time of year. |
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![]() "Adam Lea" wrote in message ... On 15/01/12 14:39, Tony Kenyon wrote: We all know that mortality rates increase when the weather is colder (winter) and during the occasional heat waves. Being told to turn the heating up because it is cold seems a rather poor way to protect the vulnerable or do you think that vulnerable people are somehow unable to work this out for themselves? In some cases yes, they do seem unable to work it out for themselves and need constant reminding. With all due respect some people seem to have little in the way of initiative, partly, I suspect, due to our ever increasing reliance on technology with an associated decrease in the need (or desire) to think for oneself (think sat-nav incidents as a prime example of this). Also, as Dave pointed out, I fail to see how temperatures of plus 3 to plus 4 degrees can be described as severe cold in January in the East of England! No I'm not sure how either. I would have thought 3-4C daytime maxes were within two standard deviations of the mean at this time of year. 3-4C in eastern England in January I'd say is just in the "cold" category, if we take an average max. of 6-7C (for low-lying areas of course). Will -- |
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![]() "Adam Lea" wrote in message ... On 15/01/12 16:11, Col wrote: "Eskimo wrote in message ... He he I'm the same David! Bedrpoom window is never shut and all radiators in the bedroom are permanently off, couldn't sleep otherwise. Occasionally close the window if it is windy to stop the doors rattling away or snow blowing in. Oh dear, another meeting of the 'who can keep their house the coldest during winter' brigade...... I am impressed that Will (and his wife, assuming he has one) can withstand having no heating and the windows open all winter. Might as well sleep outside :-). I have the windows shut and the thermostat set at around 12C when I get up in the morning and that is just about tolerable. No, no, no... don't get me wrong. I like a warm house and rest assured, I'm living a cosy existance. It's just that as far as the bedroom is concerned, the bed is cosy, but the air is nicely cooled. It might have something to do with a childhood where there was no such thing as central heating. It was always the case of hot water bottles and an extra overcoat (sorry, I mean blanket!) thrown upon the bed. I still prefer a hot water bottle (when needed) as opposed to an electric blanket or radiators. Living near the coast, it can be quite pleasant lying in bed and listening to the distant roar of the waves breaking upon the beach on a stormy night. Regards... David Allan. |
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On Jan 15, 4:11*pm, "Col" wrote:
"Eskimo Will" wrote in message ... * He he I'm the same David! Bedrpoom window is never shut and all radiators in the bedroom are permanently off, couldn't sleep otherwise. Occasionally close the window if it is windy to stop the doors rattling away or snow blowing in. Oh dear, another meeting of the 'who can keep their house the coldest during winter' brigade...... -- Col Bolton, Lancashire 160m asl Quite. I actually sleep out in the garden in winter. Houses are just so *soppy*. Hold on to your prepositions, but a warm bedroom makes a bed a much easier thing to get out of into. Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey. |
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I'm sure I can remember chipping the ice off the inside of the bedroom
window when I was a kid. You don't get nice Jack Frost patterns on the windows if it's +18oC inside. |
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On 15/01/12 16:59, David Allan wrote:
Living near the coast, it can be quite pleasant lying in bed and listening to the distant roar of the waves breaking upon the beach on a stormy night. All I get here is the nearby uproar from caterwauling cats and deranged dogs. In Spring and early Summer, for added hay-fever fun, I'd wake up sneezing and sniffling in the middle of the night. No, the window stays shut! -- Graham Davis, Bracknell, Berks. E-mail: change boy to man LibreOffice: http://www.documentfoundation.org/ openSUSE Linux: http://www.opensuse.org/en/ |
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On Jan 15, 2:24*pm, Dave Cornwell wrote:
Adam Lea wrote: On 15/01/12 13:56, Tony Kenyon wrote: Am I the only one who finds all this nonsense on the Met Office website and the Gov website incredibly irritating? For those who don't know what I'm on about there has appeared on the Met Office website an amber alert for a 90% probability of severe cold weather in most of eastern England in the next day or so, with "daytime maxima no higher than 3 or 4 degrees Celsius". Note not minus 3 or 4 but plus 3 or 4!! This is apparently bad for your health and could "disrupt the delivery of services". How FFS!? Probably something to do with the tens of thousands of excess deaths caused by cold weather every year in the UK. ------------------------ I know what you are saying Adam but surely even those vulnerable people are aware it is cold. These things are surely for the Social and Welfare services to deal with rather than the UKMO. I think the point Tony is making is that it really isn't that cold. You might just as well issue a warning in November and say the next season is Winter, wrap up well and turn up the heating. Because you take such pains to treat me as if I am only a little mad I am going to refrain from calling you a stupid dick-head this time. Even so I feel constrained to point out that even Drewellish, with his limited budget, wouldn't come out with such vanities. Here is something a touched irresponsyblight has prepared earlier children: http://my.opera.com/Weatherlawyer/al...ture=140257672 |
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On Jan 15, 2:39*pm, "Tony Kenyon"
wrote: "Adam Lea" *wrote in m... On 15/01/12 13:56, Tony Kenyon wrote: Am I the only one who finds all this nonsense on the Met Office website and the Gov website incredibly irritating? For those who don't know what I'm on about there has appeared on the Met Office website an amber alert for a 90% probability of severe cold weather in most of eastern England in the next day or so, with "daytime maxima no higher than 3 or 4 degrees Celsius". Note not minus 3 or 4 but plus 3 or 4!! This is apparently bad for your health and could "disrupt the delivery of services". How FFS!? Probably something to do with the tens of thousands of excess deaths caused by cold weather every year in the UK. We all know that mortality rates increase when the weather is colder (winter) and during the occasional heat waves. *Being told to turn the heating up because it is cold seems a rather poor way to protect the vulnerable or do you think that vulnerable people are somehow unable to work this out for themselves? Also, as Dave pointed out, I fail to see how temperatures of plus 3 to plus 4 degrees can be described as severe cold in January in the East of England! That couldn't possibly be a human error could it? It must be very hot working in an environment polluting a presumably already well polluted town with another 10 or 12 Megawatt superduperpooper. Maybe they were suffering from heatstroke? |
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