On 15/01/12 16:11, Col wrote:
"Eskimo wrote in message
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He he I'm the same David! Bedrpoom window is never shut and all radiators
in the bedroom are permanently off, couldn't sleep otherwise. Occasionally
close the window if it is windy to stop the doors rattling away or snow
blowing in.

Oh dear, another meeting of the 'who can keep their house the
coldest during winter' brigade......

I am impressed that Will (and his wife, assuming he has one) can
withstand having no heating and the windows open all winter. Might as
well sleep outside :-). I have the windows shut and the thermostat set
at around 12C when I get up in the morning and that is just about tolerable.

Col wrote:
"Eskimo Will" wrote in message
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He he I'm the same David! Bedrpoom window is never shut and all radiators
in the bedroom are permanently off, couldn't sleep otherwise. Occasionally
close the window if it is windy to stop the doors rattling away or snow
blowing in.

Oh dear, another meeting of the 'who can keep their house the
coldest during winter' brigade......
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All I can say is they must be unheathily "active" for their age or have
a bloody heavy quilt ;-)

On 15/01/12 14:39, Tony Kenyon wrote:

We all know that mortality rates increase when the weather is colder
(winter) and during the occasional heat waves. Being told to turn the
heating up because it is cold seems a rather poor way to protect the
vulnerable or do you think that vulnerable people are somehow unable to
work this out for themselves?

In some cases yes, they do seem unable to work it out for themselves and
need constant reminding. With all due respect some people seem to have
little in the way of initiative, partly, I suspect, due to our ever
increasing reliance on technology with an associated decrease in the
need (or desire) to think for oneself (think sat-nav incidents as a
prime example of this).


Also, as Dave pointed out, I fail to see how temperatures of plus 3 to
plus 4 degrees can be described as severe cold in January in the East of
England!


No I'm not sure how either. I would have thought 3-4C daytime maxes were
within two standard deviations of the mean at this time of year.

"Adam Lea" wrote in message
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On 15/01/12 14:39, Tony Kenyon wrote:

We all know that mortality rates increase when the weather is colder
(winter) and during the occasional heat waves. Being told to turn the
heating up because it is cold seems a rather poor way to protect the
vulnerable or do you think that vulnerable people are somehow unable to
work this out for themselves?

In some cases yes, they do seem unable to work it out for themselves and
need constant reminding. With all due respect some people seem to have
little in the way of initiative, partly, I suspect, due to our ever
increasing reliance on technology with an associated decrease in the need
(or desire) to think for oneself (think sat-nav incidents as a prime
example of this).


Also, as Dave pointed out, I fail to see how temperatures of plus 3 to
plus 4 degrees can be described as severe cold in January in the East of
England!


No I'm not sure how either. I would have thought 3-4C daytime maxes were
within two standard deviations of the mean at this time of year.


3-4C in eastern England in January I'd say is just in the "cold" category,
if we take an average max. of 6-7C (for low-lying areas of course).

Will
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"Adam Lea" wrote in message
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On 15/01/12 16:11, Col wrote:
"Eskimo wrote in message
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He he I'm the same David! Bedrpoom window is never shut and all
radiators
in the bedroom are permanently off, couldn't sleep otherwise.
Occasionally
close the window if it is windy to stop the doors rattling away or snow
blowing in.

Oh dear, another meeting of the 'who can keep their house the
coldest during winter' brigade......

I am impressed that Will (and his wife, assuming he has one) can withstand
having no heating and the windows open all winter. Might as well sleep
outside :-). I have the windows shut and the thermostat set at around 12C
when I get up in the morning and that is just about tolerable.


No, no, no... don't get me wrong. I like a warm house and rest assured, I'm
living a cosy existance. It's just that as far as the bedroom is concerned,
the bed is cosy, but the air is nicely cooled. It might have something to do
with a childhood where there was no such thing as central heating. It was
always the case of hot water bottles and an extra overcoat (sorry, I mean
blanket!) thrown upon the bed. I still prefer a hot water bottle (when
needed) as opposed to an electric blanket or radiators.

Living near the coast, it can be quite pleasant lying in bed and listening
to the distant roar of the waves breaking upon the beach on a stormy night.

Regards... David Allan.

On Jan 15, 4:11*pm, "Col" wrote:
"Eskimo Will" wrote in message

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He he I'm the same David! Bedrpoom window is never shut and all radiators
in the bedroom are permanently off, couldn't sleep otherwise. Occasionally
close the window if it is windy to stop the doors rattling away or snow
blowing in.

Oh dear, another meeting of the 'who can keep their house the
coldest during winter' brigade......
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl

Quite. I actually sleep out in the garden in winter. Houses are
just so *soppy*.

Hold on to your prepositions, but a warm bedroom makes a bed a
much easier thing to get out of into.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.

I'm sure I can remember chipping the ice off the inside of the bedroom
window when I was a kid.

You don't get nice Jack Frost patterns on the windows if it's +18oC
inside.

On 15/01/12 16:59, David Allan wrote:
Living near the coast, it can be quite pleasant lying in bed and listening
to the distant roar of the waves breaking upon the beach on a stormy night.

All I get here is the nearby uproar from caterwauling cats and deranged
dogs. In Spring and early Summer, for added hay-fever fun, I'd wake up
sneezing and sniffling in the middle of the night. No, the window stays
shut!

--
Graham Davis, Bracknell, Berks. E-mail: change boy to man
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On Jan 15, 2:24*pm, Dave Cornwell wrote:
Adam Lea wrote:
On 15/01/12 13:56, Tony Kenyon wrote:
Am I the only one who finds all this nonsense on the Met Office website
and the Gov website incredibly irritating?

For those who don't know what I'm on about there has appeared on the Met
Office website an amber alert for a 90% probability of severe cold
weather in most of eastern England in the next day or so, with "daytime
maxima no higher than 3 or 4 degrees Celsius". Note not minus 3 or 4 but
plus 3 or 4!!

This is apparently bad for your health and could "disrupt the delivery
of services". How FFS!?

Probably something to do with the tens of thousands of excess deaths
caused by cold weather every year in the UK.

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I know what you are saying Adam but surely even those vulnerable people
are aware it is cold. These things are surely for the Social and Welfare
services to deal with rather than the UKMO. I think the point Tony is
making is that it really isn't that cold. You might just as well issue a
warning in November and say the next season is Winter, wrap up well and
turn up the heating.

Because you take such pains to treat me as if I am only a little mad I
am going to refrain from calling you a stupid dick-head this time.
Even so I feel constrained to point out that even Drewellish, with his
limited budget, wouldn't come out with such vanities.

Here is something a touched irresponsyblight has prepared earlier
children:
http://my.opera.com/Weatherlawyer/al...ture=140257672

On Jan 15, 2:39*pm, "Tony Kenyon"
wrote:
"Adam Lea" *wrote in m...

On 15/01/12 13:56, Tony Kenyon wrote:

Am I the only one who finds all this nonsense on the Met Office website
and the Gov website incredibly irritating?

For those who don't know what I'm on about there has appeared on the Met
Office website an amber alert for a 90% probability of severe cold
weather in most of eastern England in the next day or so, with "daytime
maxima no higher than 3 or 4 degrees Celsius". Note not minus 3 or 4 but
plus 3 or 4!!

This is apparently bad for your health and could "disrupt the delivery
of services". How FFS!?
Probably something to do with the tens of thousands of excess deaths caused
by cold weather every year in the UK.

We all know that mortality rates increase when the weather is colder
(winter) and during the occasional heat waves. *Being told to turn the
heating up because it is cold seems a rather poor way to protect the
vulnerable or do you think that vulnerable people are somehow unable to work
this out for themselves?

Also, as Dave pointed out, I fail to see how temperatures of plus 3 to plus
4 degrees can be described as severe cold in January in the East of England!

That couldn't possibly be a human error could it?

It must be very hot working in an environment polluting a presumably
already well polluted town with another 10 or 12 Megawatt
superduperpooper.

Maybe they were suffering from heatstroke?