Northampton Carnival - wind making trees unsafe; ground too soft in park for
heavy vehicles.

Cambridgeshire County Show - ground too soft for heavy vehicles.
Cancellation actually requested by the National Trust, who own the ground,
and are fearful of lasting damage from vehicles.

Suffolk County Show - cancelled just 15 minutes after opening the gates this
morning, as the ground was unsuitable for vehicles.

Bedford White Water Canoeing - too much water!!!

And it goes on. Just to remind everyone, this area is still subject to a
Drought Order, and the use of hosepipes by householders is still banned.

Flaming Bloody June. The only flames around here are on the burners of my
central heating boiler every evening.

jim, Northampton

"jbm" wrote in message ...
Northampton Carnival - wind making trees unsafe; ground too soft in park
for heavy vehicles.

Cambridgeshire County Show - ground too soft for heavy vehicles.
Cancellation actually requested by the National Trust, who own the ground,
and are fearful of lasting damage from vehicles.

Suffolk County Show - cancelled just 15 minutes after opening the gates
this morning, as the ground was unsuitable for vehicles.

Bedford White Water Canoeing - too much water!!!

And it goes on. Just to remind everyone, this area is still subject to a
Drought Order, and the use of hosepipes by householders is still banned.

Flaming Bloody June. The only flames around here are on the burners of my
central heating boiler every evening.


ROFL

This season is turning out to be almost as good as winter with all the
drama, brilliant!
:-)

Bring on the thunderstorms.

http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
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On 09/06/2012 09:04, Dartmoor Will wrote:

"jbm" wrote in message ...
Northampton Carnival - wind making trees unsafe; ground too soft in
park for heavy vehicles.

Cambridgeshire County Show - ground too soft for heavy vehicles.
Cancellation actually requested by the National Trust, who own the
ground, and are fearful of lasting damage from vehicles.

Suffolk County Show - cancelled just 15 minutes after opening the
gates this morning, as the ground was unsuitable for vehicles.

Bedford White Water Canoeing - too much water!!!

And it goes on. Just to remind everyone, this area is still subject to
a Drought Order, and the use of hosepipes by householders is still
banned.

Flaming Bloody June. The only flames around here are on the burners of
my central heating boiler every evening.


ROFL

This season is turning out to be almost as good as winter with all the
drama, brilliant!
:-)

Bring on the thunderstorms.

http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
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Now there is flooding at a caravan site and at least one village near
Aberystwyth. People apparently are being rescued by Fire, RNLI,
Coastguard and helicopter.

--
Howard Neil

"Howard Neil" wrote in message
...
On 09/06/2012 09:04, Dartmoor Will wrote:

"jbm" wrote in message ...
Northampton Carnival - wind making trees unsafe; ground too soft in
park for heavy vehicles.

Cambridgeshire County Show - ground too soft for heavy vehicles.
Cancellation actually requested by the National Trust, who own the
ground, and are fearful of lasting damage from vehicles.

Suffolk County Show - cancelled just 15 minutes after opening the
gates this morning, as the ground was unsuitable for vehicles.

Bedford White Water Canoeing - too much water!!!

And it goes on. Just to remind everyone, this area is still subject to
a Drought Order, and the use of hosepipes by householders is still
banned.

Flaming Bloody June. The only flames around here are on the burners of
my central heating boiler every evening.


ROFL

This season is turning out to be almost as good as winter with all the
drama, brilliant!
:-)

Bring on the thunderstorms.

http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
---------------------------------------------

Now there is flooding at a caravan site and at least one village near
Aberystwyth. People apparently are being rescued by Fire, RNLI, Coastguard
and helicopter.

Right, and for those people who claim that such conditions
are perfectly normal for June and are just part of a disturbed
British summer, think again.
This isn't unprecedended or even exceptional, but it certainly
is unusual. You don't get flooding like that in most British summer months.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl

On 09/06/2012 09:38, Col wrote:
"Howard wrote in message
...
On 09/06/2012 09:04, Dartmoor Will wrote:

wrote in message ...
Northampton Carnival - wind making trees unsafe; ground too soft in
park for heavy vehicles.

Cambridgeshire County Show - ground too soft for heavy vehicles.
Cancellation actually requested by the National Trust, who own the
ground, and are fearful of lasting damage from vehicles.

Suffolk County Show - cancelled just 15 minutes after opening the
gates this morning, as the ground was unsuitable for vehicles.

Bedford White Water Canoeing - too much water!!!

And it goes on. Just to remind everyone, this area is still subject to
a Drought Order, and the use of hosepipes by householders is still
banned.

Flaming Bloody June. The only flames around here are on the burners of
my central heating boiler every evening.


ROFL

This season is turning out to be almost as good as winter with all the
drama, brilliant!
:-)

Bring on the thunderstorms.

http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
---------------------------------------------

Now there is flooding at a caravan site and at least one village near
Aberystwyth. People apparently are being rescued by Fire, RNLI, Coastguard
and helicopter.

Right, and for those people who claim that such conditions
are perfectly normal for June and are just part of a disturbed
British summer, think again.
This isn't unprecedended or even exceptional, but it certainly
is unusual. You don't get flooding like that in most British summer months.

Particularly not in Wales where we are quite used to high rainfall.

--
Howard Neil

On Sat, 9 Jun 2012 09:38:08 +0100, Col wrote:

This isn't unprecedended or even exceptional, but it certainly is
unusual. You don't get flooding like that in most British summer
months.

When did half of Gloucestershire, Tewkesbury etc disappear under
water? Thought that was in the British summer months.

--
Cheers Dave.
Nr Garrigill, Cumbria. 421m ASL.

"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ill.co.uk...
On Sat, 9 Jun 2012 09:38:08 +0100, Col wrote:

This isn't unprecedended or even exceptional, but it certainly is
unusual. You don't get flooding like that in most British summer
months.

When did half of Gloucestershire, Tewkesbury etc disappear under
water? Thought that was in the British summer months.

It was, but that was exceptional.
But that's the point. You don't get flooding like that in Wales,
and certainly not like that in Gloucestershire in 2007 in
most British summer months.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl

"Col" wrote in message
...

"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ill.co.uk...
On Sat, 9 Jun 2012 09:38:08 +0100, Col wrote:

This isn't unprecedended or even exceptional, but it certainly is
unusual. You don't get flooding like that in most British summer
months.

When did half of Gloucestershire, Tewkesbury etc disappear under
water? Thought that was in the British summer months.

It was, but that was exceptional.
But that's the point. You don't get flooding like that in Wales,
and certainly not like that in Gloucestershire in 2007 in
most British summer months.

Col in my published extreme rainfall study I noted that most of the severest
rainstorms of the past 100 years occurred in summer.

Lynmouth flood disaster - August 1952
Martinstown record rainfall - July 1955
Torquay flooding - August 1948
Hampstead storm - August 1975
Wokingham storm - August 1959
I could go on ......

Rainstorms in summer have the potential to be very severe due to convection
and higher precipitable water content.

Cheers,

Will
--

On 09/06/12 13:28, Dartmoor Will wrote:

"Col" wrote in message
...

"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ill.co.uk...
On Sat, 9 Jun 2012 09:38:08 +0100, Col wrote:

This isn't unprecedended or even exceptional, but it certainly is
unusual. You don't get flooding like that in most British summer
months.

When did half of Gloucestershire, Tewkesbury etc disappear under
water? Thought that was in the British summer months.

It was, but that was exceptional.
But that's the point. You don't get flooding like that in Wales,
and certainly not like that in Gloucestershire in 2007 in
most British summer months.

Col in my published extreme rainfall study I noted that most of the
severest rainstorms of the past 100 years occurred in summer.

Lynmouth flood disaster - August 1952
Martinstown record rainfall - July 1955
Torquay flooding - August 1948
Hampstead storm - August 1975
Wokingham storm - August 1959
I could go on ......

Rainstorms in summer have the potential to be very severe due to
convection and higher precipitable water content.

Cheers,

Will

How many of those examples were caused by severe thunderstorms or MCS,
as opposed to large scale frontal rain with orographic enhancement due
to a synoptic scale weather system, like we have at the moment?

It is not just the intensity of the rainfall that matters, it is over
how large an area it falls and how many people are affected.

Col in my published extreme rainfall study I noted that most
of the severest rainstorms of the past 100 years occurred in
summer.

Lynmouth flood disaster - August 1952
Martinstown record rainfall - July 1955
Torquay flooding - August 1948
Hampstead storm - August 1975
Wokingham storm - August 1959
I could go on ......

or back:

The Great Moray Floods - August 1829

Anne