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I'm just collating today's BOM charts (and subject to the usual
waivers) it looks like there is a surge in the tornado strikes for this spell. It is not repeated in today's North Atlantic though, so... The lunar phase is a perfect one for thunderstorms. (Also no longer shown on the North Atlantic today.) What is shown on the MetO's chart run is a northerly High moving to southern Europe, allowing dying Lows to pass through an anticyclonic sandwich (with the other High sitting on the shores of Norway.) Activity seems low on the NEIC list so far today. http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquak...quakes_big.php The main reason for posting with this headline is that the belt of stormy weather that surrounds Antarctica is holding off from the coast. http://www.bom.gov.au/australia/char...Refresh+ View The black palls of depression that Do hit the line don't seem (to me at least) to contain much threat of earthquakes. It is of course summer so there is no daylight on the dark side of those storms. So presumably the precipitation is lifting too soon? That's enough for the dullards on here to struggle with for now. I'll post my reasoning on the finding in a subsequent post. |
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On Jun 20, 8:56*am, Weatherlawyer wrote:
I'm just collating today's BOM charts (and subject to the usual waivers) it looks like there is a surge in the tornado strikes for this spell. It is not repeated in today's North Atlantic though, so... The lunar phase is a perfect one for thunderstorms. (Also no longer shown on the North Atlantic today.) What is shown on the MetO's chart run is a northerly High moving to southern Europe, allowing dying Lows to pass through an anticyclonic sandwich (with the other High sitting on the shores of Norway.) Activity seems low on the NEIC list so far today. http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquak...quakes_big.php The main reason for posting with this headline is that the belt of stormy weather that surrounds Antarctica is holding off from the coast. http://www.bom.gov.au/australia/char...ml?type=mslp-p.... The black palls of depression that Do hit the line don't seem (to me at least) to contain much threat of earthquakes. It is of course summer so there is no daylight on the dark side of those storms. So presumably the precipitation is lifting too soon? That's enough for the dullards on here to struggle with for now. I'll post my reasoning on the finding in a subsequent *post. I haven't looked at previous charts to check but when I first started posting them it was Winter and the belt of Low pressure surrounding the continent was set up in a manner that looked identical to the stator plates of a small electricity generator. The above set looks more like a couple of knotty windings. No dark masses break the continuity. There are a few well formed cyclones in the pot but they look harmless. The darkest has been there since the last spell. It is off South America, on the Antarctic Peninsula. And it is a signal for storms. Signals for earthquakes are much larger, darker and circular. And they are short lived. They tend to come in as quickly as is reasonable and more or less intact from their sub-tropical source. And large ones recieve an injection from their opposite number at an angle that contrasts sharply with the normally slow track in. The latter runs straight in from the eastern side of its originating continent and perpendicular to Antarctica. These things almost always occur in pairs on opposite sides of the continent. They do this regardless of what they signal, storms or earthquakes. (Explain that with Weggener.) The tropical storms (slated for dispersal later today and tomorrow are still ongoing according to the Antarctic charts. But not according to the MetO ones) That sounds contradictory. But the stand-off with stroms happens at the start of the affair. Once the precipitation makes the coast as a cyclone,the stream lines in the cyclone run across the continent to join with other cylones. It is the direction of the closest isobars (seen as black lines) that indicate what sort of storm there will be. The collections of charts will be posted on he http://my.opera.com/Weatherlawyer/bl...and-offishness Opera has been suffering from DDoS attacks since May so the pages may be difficult to load. |
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On Jun 20, 8:56*am, Weatherlawyer wrote:
I'm just collating today's BOM charts (and subject to the usual waivers) it looks like there is a surge in the tornado strikes for this spell. It is not repeated in today's North Atlantic though, so... The lunar phase is a perfect one for thunderstorms. (Also no longer shown on the North Atlantic today.) What is shown on the MetO's chart run is a northerly High moving to southern Europe, allowing dying Lows to pass through an anticyclonic sandwich (with the other High sitting on the shores of Norway.) Activity seems low on the NEIC list so far today. http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquak...quakes_big.php Odd that Ne East North America gets an heatwave whilst the north mid- west gets floods. Or is it? Flash floods and heat waves go hand in hand, as do thunder spells. I get the impression my search engine has a USA bias, but it is still accurate for what it does. I'll have to look for a Google equivalent that has less NSAcentic (de)faulting. |
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We always get a grouping of this nature when a strong storm dies. It
is due to tropical cyclones, I believe but this may also happen with storms in higher latitudes. It has to be true in the South Pole too, as it happens there quite often. I can't say all the time but... And it must therefore follow that something of this nature happens with the North Pole: 21/06/12 4.7 M. @ 05:18 25.7 S. 179.8 E. South of the Fiji Islands 4.9 M. @ 03:43 12.5 N. 144.0 E. Guam Region 4.9 M. @ 03:32 12.5 N. 143.9 E. Guam Region Once you are free from contemporary scientific dogma you can see it all happening for yourselves and won't need me to teach you. Which is just as well as I am getting past my "Sell By" date. A pair of earthquakes (on this occasion in Guam) ALWAYS occurs after a storm dies. Usually this happens closer to the start or end of a Lunar Phase but obviously there is something I am missing from the algorithm. And after a closure like that, or with a more intense quake (in the region of 6.5 M or larger) -that is; a multiple quake in exactly the same place at more or less the same time, we usually get a quake in the region of Fiji, Tonga or Vanuatu. These latter places are in the geophysical centre of the planet. From the western shores of the Indo-Pacific to the eastern one, the strata and reservoirs appear like the cross section of an onion. (I can't find a suitable diagramme online so I will scan one in later.) So far there haven't been the tornado events I was half expecting, which isn't too surprising as the set-up on the Met Office's charts did not agree with my opinion based on the Antarctic chart. When Tornadoes ARE certain the situation is that a Low will run through two highs, or a blocking High will be stationed off the east coast of North America. Along with that situation a series of fronts will be drawn in by the meteorologist that looks somewhat similar to a small boat anchor or an umbrella. The cartouche will be pointing in the general direction of Europe. (I have an idea the pointing the other way it indicates a volcanic eruption. But of course I can't verify this without looking. So it would be a good idea if you checked this out for yourselves before thinking me the fool I am.) In the meantime the chart is now heading for a different make up: Small scattered occlusions with a Greenland High and a Mid Atlantic (northerly Azores) High. There is a Low on the east coast of North America and that is going to flow east soon. But the overall picture is a flaccid North Atlantic oscillation. Of which it has to be said, there may be little wind sheer but no blocking. In fact if there are going to be tornadoes they will occur on Saturday 23 June 2012. Between T+ 48 and T+ 60 here at the time of writing: http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/..._pressure.html There may even be some slight phreatic stuff at the end of the run: (T + 72 to 84.) |
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On Jun 20, 9:40*am, Weatherlawyer wrote:
I haven't looked at previous charts to check but when I first started posting them it was Winter and the belt of Low pressure surrounding the continent was set up in a manner that looked identical to the stator plates of a small electricity generator. I was going to write about how the continent becomes another world when the season shifts from summer to winter. But the fact is the whole planet becomes another world when that happens. It has to. The continent has a night over 4 months long relieved only by the light from the moon. And during that time the land mass becomes (for all intents and purposes to do with meteorology) a region that is twice the size and half the temperature of summer. But now I have moved on from cyclonic/tornadic uplift to frost heave and the structure of mountains. Meanwhile all the planets await our reappraisal viz a viz axial tilt. Meanwhile Chris is now an hurricane. And as the acoustic phenomenon we call; sorry, I call weather is wrapped up in that bag of life, the thunfery weather abates towards the wet end of the spectrum, that should produce tornadoes, no? From three to one passes 2:30 yes, no? Or what? It is to be added to th pot off North America where, presumably it will join us shrtly. After passing between Greenland and ther Azores. Now let's see who has been paying attention, children... |
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On Jun 21, 10:42*am, Weatherlawyer wrote:
We always get a grouping of this nature when a strong storm dies. It is due to tropical cyclones, I believe but this may also happen with storms in higher latitudes. It has to be true in the South Pole too, as it happens there quite often. I can't say all the time but... And it must therefore follow that something of this nature happens with the North Pole: 21/06/12 4.7 M. @ 05:18 * * * * *25.7 S. * * * * *179.8 E. South of the Fiji Islands 4.9 M. @ 03:43 * * * * *12.5 N. * * * * *144.0 E. Guam Region 4.9 M. @ 03:32 * * * * *12.5 N. * * * * *143.9 E. Guam Region Once you are free from contemporary scientific dogma you can see it all happening for yourselves and won't need me to teach you. Which is just as well as I am getting past my "Sell By" date. A pair of earthquakes (on this occasion in Guam) ALWAYS occurs after a storm dies. Usually this happens closer to the start or end of a Lunar Phase but obviously there is something I am missing from the algorithm. And after a closure like that, or with a more intense quake (in the region of 6.5 M or larger) -that is; a multiple quake in exactly the same place at more or less the same time, we usually get a quake in the region of Fiji, Tonga or Vanuatu. These latter places are in the geophysical centre of the planet. From the western shores of the Indo-Pacific to the eastern one, the strata and reservoirs appear like the cross section of an onion. 2012/06/22 6 M. @ 04:31. -54.302 158.727 MACQUARIE ISLAND REGION 4.5 M. @ 04:25. -18.264 -175.116 TONGA 5.7 M, @ 02:20. -32.795 -178.562 SOUTH OF THE KERMADEC ISLANDS 4.8 M. @ 00:03. -32.999 -179.833 SOUTH OF THE KERMADEC ISLANDS 2012/06/21 5.2 M. @23:52. -32.889 -178.637 SOUTH OF THE KERMADEC ISLANDS Interesting. Two is one down therefore three is? That's worth a look. In the meantime the chart is now heading for a different make up: Small scattered occlusions with a Greenland High and a Mid Atlantic (northerly Azores) High. There is a Low on the east coast of North America and that is going to flow east soon. But the overall picture is a flaccid North Atlantic oscillation. Of which it has to be said, there may be little wind sheer but no blocking. In fact if there are going to be tornadoes they will occur on Saturday 23 June 2012. Between T+ 48 and T+ 60 here at the time of writing: http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/..._pressure.html There may even be some slight phreatic stuff at the end of the run: (T + 72 to 84.) The Met Office chart took some correction yesterday. So I can't be blamed for all of it going wrong. Still, there should be more thunder and or tornadoes. Or maybe it was all just a storm in a basin? |
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Chris is reckoned to be dying.
However there is a line of Lows leading from it to the UK according to the MetOffice charts. And they look like they will become part of a blocking Low later in the run. 23 Jun, 2012 12:37 GMT. CHRIS N Atlantic 40 kts TS. 24 Jun, 2012 12:37 GMT. DISSIPATED. Whatever it is, the fronts loaded for earthquakes are heading for Highs. So no tornadoes. (Apart from the jelly-fishy ones that is.) |
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