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Let's hope ya don't unfortuneatly drown in a flash flood....

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On Jul 9, 10:52*am, John Hall wrote:
In article ,

As the group's much-ignored charter says:
"Any discussion of climate issues should be from a
scientific standpoint and not a political
(or environmental-activist) one."


How was that supposed to work?

The environmental activists have taken over Reading. Now they seem to
be running the Met Office.

They started out in the potting shed in the back of the University of
East Anglia and went Doolali from there.

Their pretty nigh risible efforts were once based on the chronological
lapse rate of Snowdrops to Dandelions.

Suddenly it included SciFi and shook the world.

All based on nothing more than half-arsed guesswork about trees that
may or may not have grown in a region that has sudden diurnal weather
patterns that even Little Englanders would find hard to live with and
upper ocean surface changes that have strikingly banal average
differences.

Mention the ring of 12 and the 0.6 C and the argument is finitoed.

Why?

Because nobody has ever been told about them.

Why?

Because it isn't in the interests of the interested parties to discuss
the lack of anything scientific in their pseudo science.

All they need do is wait for a magnificent period such as the series
of weather we have had world wide over the past few weeks and everyone
who has never even thought about it before is a staunch believer.

And the problem then become a matter for discussion on forums such as
this, because anything that appeals to the gullible is a subject that
politicians can use to side track fools and children.

So much for the charter. No discussion on here, about glowballs, has
ever considered the physics involved. (Apart from some of the stuff I
have posted.)

I remember one time, a chemist telling me on here that sulphur dioxide
turns into sulphuric acid in the air.

With that level of discussion/intelligence it is difficult to be
mellow and forbearing.

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Weatherlawyer wrote:
On Jul 9, 10:52 am, John Hall wrote:
In article ,

As the group's much-ignored charter says:
"Any discussion of climate issues should be from a
scientific standpoint and not a political
(or environmental-activist) one."


How was that supposed to work?


You have to remember though that was written at a time (mid 90s) when
this group first started and the polarised debate on AGW wasn't as
evident as it is today. The polarised standpoints some take may be
undesirable but given that it has become so much a part of
meteorology/climatology it would be unrealistic to expect such discussions
not to take place here.
Sign of the times, I'm afraid.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl


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In article ,
Col writes:
Weatherlawyer wrote:
On Jul 9, 10:52 am, John Hall wrote:
In article ,

As the group's much-ignored charter says:
"Any discussion of climate issues should be from a
scientific standpoint and not a political
(or environmental-activist) one."


How was that supposed to work?


You have to remember though that was written at a time (mid 90s) when
this group first started and the polarised debate on AGW wasn't as
evident as it is today. The polarised standpoints some take may be
undesirable but given that it has become so much a part of
meteorology/climatology it would be unrealistic to expect such discussions
not to take place here.
Sign of the times, I'm afraid.


It must already have been enough in evidence for Philip Eden (who I
think was the group's proponent) to think that it would be prudent to
mention environmental-activism in the charter.
--
John Hall
Johnson: "Well, we had a good talk."
Boswell: "Yes, Sir, you tossed and gored several persons."
Dr Samuel Johnson (1709-84); James Boswell (1740-95)
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On Jul 9, 2:31*am, Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Jul 8, 10:45*am, Adam Lea wrote:





On 08/07/12 00:35, Lawrence13 wrote:


On Jul 7, 11:36 pm, Adam *wrote:
On 07/07/12 23:27, Dave Cornwell wrote:


Metman2012 wrote:
On 07/07/2012 20:44, Dave Cornwell wrote:
Lawrence13 wrote:
Rain Warnings for the south east


http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/w...?regionName=SE


I've been out the garden for the last three hours -is my life at risk?


They really are becoming idiots. Flooding I can understand but rain
and a warning that the ground might get wet. Surely this is one big
joke to see how far they can get away with.


Absolutely tripe and the forecast was crap as well with a couple of
spots hitying me in the garden-should I go to A&E? Oh dear what a
dangerous life I lead.


Anyone from abroad seeing those -at the drop of a hat- weather
warnings would think Britain is in serious trouble.
----------------------
I must admit I had been expecting some rain today mainly based on
looking at the radar. Not a drop though and only 6mm since it all
started. In fact I noticed the ground was very dry on the Essex marshes
when I went for a walk.
Dave, S.Essex


Well the melodramatic twaddle has resulted in our village fair (the
Revels) being cancelled. The Creedy is flowing across the field which
would be the car park, and the rec has standing pools of water.
However, that's not as bad as the many people who've been flooded out
(some again). Warnings pretty much spot on here.


Malcolm
Newton St Cyres
Devon


-----------------------------
Yes I agree most of them were very accurate and useful. It just happened
that the South East corner which was not in a high risk area virtually
missed the rain altogether.
Dave


Here in Horsham it is certainly coming down. I'm supposed to be helping
out at a community allotment project tomorrow afternoon, I'm going to
need Wellington boots at this rate.- Hide quoted text -


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Oh no, not the dreaded wellington boots!!!!!!!!! This is some serious
****. I just wonder why wellington boots were developed so many years
ago as a secret *weapon for todays RAINNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!
ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH**HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


It's driving *me mad it's
&*^%king rain for GODS SAKE


You know something, it is becoming very apparent why Dawlish hated you
so much. You really are a nasty, bitter, warped individual who's
dragging the quality of this newsgroup down imo. Perhaps you should
follow in his footsteps and take a long retirement.- Hide quoted text -


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* * Are you audtioning for the post of Dawlish-in-residence to this
group? *I have to inform you that the position has been abolished, as
it has elsewhere. *For a reasoned critique of Lawrence see what Col
wrote. *That's the way to do it!

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.- Hide quoted text -

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Is it? It doesn't suit everyone, but then again, everyone is not the
same.......which is a very good thing.

The day you think you can abolish someone, or their
"position" (whatever that is) has not arrived. In my case, it won't
*ever* arrive. *))

Dawlish; on holiday.


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Lawrence13 wrote in news:3ebc77cc-1823-483c-90ab-
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Rain Warnings for the south east

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/w...?regionName=SE


I've been out the garden for the last three hours -is my life at risk?


The only thing this thread has taught me is how awful people are at
snipping posts and replies to a manageable size...

Richard
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On Jul 9, 6:52*pm, John Hall wrote:
In article ,

Sign of the times, I'm afraid.


It must already have been enough in evidence for Philip Eden
to mention environmental-activism in the charter.


Sad that it was Glowballsgate that saw him off.



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