"Togless" wrote in message
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"Nick" wrote:

Apologies for the tone of this but - I really do give up. I am really
starting to dislike summer as a season, time after time it just seems
to be a long, bland dreary season in which everything is dying and we
don't have the weather any more to compensate for it. Everything shuts
down because everyone with sense has gone on holiday to somewhere
where you can actually guarantee sun (i.e somewhere south of 45
degrees north) so it's socially dead. The weather's never any good
these days - 2006 was the last time July and August were even halfway
decent.'ve spent two weeks of my time and a lot of money going to
Austria where the weather was only marginally better than here due to
the godawful jet stream. Now no prospect of any more holidays and
probably anymore decent weather until 2013, at this rate. 2012 really
is the most grotty, godawful, godforsaken year for weather I can
remember - the good February and March doesn't excuse the awful spring
and summer.

Seconded. For anyone who loves warm sunny weather, this 'summer' has been
pretty grim. UKMO are promising 28C and sunshine for Wednesday in central
southern England. Time to gamble on that and book a day's leave, I think.
I find Will's love of cold weather in summer to be... perplexing (no
offence Will!)... but he's right, you have to take each day as it comes
(and make the most of good weather when it does arrive, if you can).

What is it going to take to give us a nice long spell of warm, sunny,
settled weather? Whatever it is, the Met Office don't seem to see any
prospect of it happening in the foreseeable future.

Cooling of the arctic would do the trick!
That'll help increase the speed of the jet and hence less propensity for
wriggles and contortion.
Failing that, blowing up the Rockies may help :-)

http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
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"Adam Lea" wrote in message
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On 21/07/12 08:56, Nick wrote:

Apologies for the tone of this but - I really do give up.

snip

This summer is a good analogy for my dating experience, and I feel the
same way about that at times :-)

As I have mentioned on here before, I think the best thing to do is accept
that you can't do anything about the weather and if it is genuinely making
you depressed, try and surround yourself with people that give you a lift
(e.g. friends and family). Alternatively, try to get out and pursue
hobbies and interests (ideally indoors in this weather) which will also
get you out amongst people. I find that being amongst people you like and
care about is an excellent way to boost morale. This is what I am trying
to do at the moment. If you keep busy then you don't have time to dwell on
the grotty conditions outside.


It's hardly "grotty" outside today though surely?
I'm actually catching the sun in tee-shirt and shorts and I am sweating
buckets after grappling with the grass just now. 16.9C and 75% relative
humidity outside, that's summery for these parts.

Will (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
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Togless wrote:

"Nick" wrote:

Apologies for the tone of this but - I really do give up. I am really
starting to dislike summer as a season, time after time it just seems
to be a long, bland dreary season in which everything is dying and we
don't have the weather any more to compensate for it. Everything shuts
down because everyone with sense has gone on holiday to somewhere
where you can actually guarantee sun (i.e somewhere south of 45
degrees north) so it's socially dead. The weather's never any good
these days - 2006 was the last time July and August were even halfway
decent.'ve spent two weeks of my time and a lot of money going to
Austria where the weather was only marginally better than here due to
the godawful jet stream. Now no prospect of any more holidays and
probably anymore decent weather until 2013, at this rate. 2012 really
is the most grotty, godawful, godforsaken year for weather I can
remember - the good February and March doesn't excuse the awful spring
and summer.

Seconded. For anyone who loves warm sunny weather, this 'summer' has been
pretty grim. UKMO are promising 28C and sunshine for Wednesday in central
southern England. Time to gamble on that and book a day's leave, I think. I
find Will's love of cold weather in summer to be... perplexing (no offence
Will!)... but he's right, you have to take each day as it comes (and make the
most of good weather when it does arrive, if you can).

What is it going to take to give us a nice long spell of warm, sunny, settled
weather? Whatever it is, the Met Office don't seem to see any prospect of it
happening in the foreseeable future.


Long spells of warm, sunny, settled weather are very unusual in this country.
Indeed, they are probably just as unusual as the long spell of cool, dull, wet
weather that many parts of the country have experienced this summer. As Martin
pointed out in another thread the package holiday industry developed, at least
partly, because of the cool and rainy summers that were typical of the 1950s
and 1960s. If you look for long spells of warm, sunny, settled weather in this
country you're likely to be disappointed in most years.

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.

On 21/07/12 14:17, Dartmoor Will wrote:

"Adam Lea" wrote in message
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On 21/07/12 08:56, Nick wrote:

Apologies for the tone of this but - I really do give up.

snip

This summer is a good analogy for my dating experience, and I feel the
same way about that at times :-)

As I have mentioned on here before, I think the best thing to do is
accept that you can't do anything about the weather and if it is
genuinely making you depressed, try and surround yourself with people
that give you a lift (e.g. friends and family). Alternatively, try to
get out and pursue hobbies and interests (ideally indoors in this
weather) which will also get you out amongst people. I find that being
amongst people you like and care about is an excellent way to boost
morale. This is what I am trying to do at the moment. If you keep busy
then you don't have time to dwell on the grotty conditions outside.


It's hardly "grotty" outside today though surely?
I'm actually catching the sun in tee-shirt and shorts and I am sweating
buckets after grappling with the grass just now. 16.9C and 75% relative
humidity outside, that's summery for these parts.

Will (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
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No, today is really very nice, yesterday was not too bad either.
Averaging over the summer so far though, it has been grotty, and that is
what has been getting people down.

On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 at 13:44:13, Togless wrote
in uk.sci.weather :

For anyone who loves warm sunny weather, this 'summer' has been
pretty grim. UKMO are promising 28C and sunshine for Wednesday in
central southern England. Time to gamble on that and book a day's
leave, I think. I find Will's love of cold weather in summer to be...
perplexing (no offence Will!)

I dislike hot weather almost as much as Will does - it's the sticky
nights where you can't sleep that I find worst.
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 at 14:09:09, Adam Lea wrote
in uk.sci.weather :

On 21/07/12 08:56, Nick wrote:

Apologies for the tone of this but - I really do give up.

snip

This summer is a good analogy for my dating experience, and I feel the
same way about that at times :-)

As I have mentioned on here before, I think the best thing to do is
accept that you can't do anything about the weather and if it is
genuinely making you depressed, try and surround yourself with people
that give you a lift (e.g. friends and family). Alternatively, try to
get out and pursue hobbies and interests (ideally indoors in this
weather) which will also get you out amongst people.

Or just take a Valium...

--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham (change 'invalid83261' to 'blueyonder' to email me)

On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 17:22:36 +0100
Paul Hyett wrote:

Or just take a Valium...


Tried that, along with Prozac, about a couple of decades ago. Made me a
bit cotton-woolly-headed - even more than usual - and managed to flood
the kitchen a couple of times in as many weeks. At least I didn't get
worked up about it, just walked into the kitchen because I wondered
what the odd noise was and thought, "wow! a waterfall in the kitchen!
how cool is that?" Then I got the Vax and sucked up the water. Soon got
myself taken off the medicine.

Funnily enough, it flooded again a couple of hours ago. Washing machine
door wouldn't open but, eventually, a hard clout did the trick.
Unfortunately it was full of water which shot out over me and the
floor. Shouldn't have been any water in it but weird things like that
have been happening a lot lately. All part of life's rich pageant, I
suppose. Vax came in handy again.


--
Graham Davis, Bracknell, Berks. E-mail: change 'boy' to 'man'
"A neighbour put his budgerigar in the mincing machine and invented
shredded tweet." - Chic Murray
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In article ,
Martin Rowley writes:
Admittedly this summer is especially disappointing, but several of
the late 50s (except 59 of course) and 60s summers were, to say
the least, indifferent! Examples (for the S of England anyway) were
1956, 1958, 1962, 1963, 1965 and 1968. For people of my age, this
summer, though annoying, brings back many 'happy' memories of
being stuck on the Exeter by-pass trying to find some sunshine &
being stuck in the car on some cliff-top park, watching (and
listening to) the rain drumming down relentlessly off the Atlantic
(or elsewhere). The only up-side was the music playing on the
radio in the car: good stuff that.

You had radio in your car back then? You were spoilt. The succession
of pretty basic second-hand cars which were all that my father could
afford never ran to such luxuries. But the rest of it is all very
familiar, except that back then we never went further from home than the
Sussex coast, or occasionally ventured into Hampshire. However for our
week staying at a Bognor caravan camp in 1958 we were lucky enough to
hit the one hot sunny week of the entire summer.
--
John Hall

"The beatings will continue until morale improves."
Attributed to the Commander of Japan's Submarine Forces in WW2

In article ,
Paul Hyett writes:
On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 at 13:44:13, Togless
wrote in uk.sci.weather :

For anyone who loves warm sunny weather, this 'summer' has
been pretty grim. UKMO are promising 28C and sunshine for
Wednesday in central southern England. Time to gamble on that
and book a day's leave, I think. I find Will's love of cold weather
in summer to be... perplexing (no offence Will!)

I dislike hot weather almost as much as Will does - it's the sticky
nights where you can't sleep that I find worst.

Me too. However I could do without the incessant rain and lack of sun
that have accompanied the cool weather this year. (Of course a dry,
sunny summer is normally pretty warm, so my ideal combination of
sunshine with temperatures no higher than 25C - or at most 27C - and not
too high humidity is rarely realised.)
--
John Hall

"The beatings will continue until morale improves."
Attributed to the Commander of Japan's Submarine Forces in WW2

"John Hall" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Martin Rowley writes:
Admittedly this summer is especially disappointing, but several of
the late 50s (except 59 of course) and 60s summers were, to say
the least, indifferent! Examples (for the S of England anyway) were
1956, 1958, 1962, 1963, 1965 and 1968. For people of my age, this
summer, though annoying, brings back many 'happy' memories of
being stuck on the Exeter by-pass trying to find some sunshine &
being stuck in the car on some cliff-top park, watching (and
listening to) the rain drumming down relentlessly off the Atlantic
(or elsewhere). The only up-side was the music playing on the
radio in the car: good stuff that.

You had radio in your car back then? You were spoilt. The succession
of pretty basic second-hand cars which were all that my father could
afford never ran to such luxuries. But the rest of it is all very
familiar, except that back then we never went further from home than the
Sussex coast, or occasionally ventured into Hampshire. However for our
week staying at a Bognor caravan camp in 1958 we were lucky enough to
hit the one hot sunny week of the entire summer.

Car? Your family had a car. You were lucky, when I was a lad all we had was
a pair of roller skates :-)
But yes, we didn't have a car until 1967 when I was 15. Holidays were days
out to Blackpool or Southport and occasional trips to relatives in Ashbourne
(Derbyshire). The south of England (and Yorkshire) was a foreign land to me,
although I did stay in Croydon for a month in 1966 with my cousin. The
weather in 60s Manchester was brilliant. Summers were 3 fine days and a
cracking thunderstorm, and although winters were never particularly snowy in
the city the pennines were often gleaming white and snow fell every winter.
Polar lows were more common too. Also no central heating meant frost on the
inside of windows. If we ate all the coal then there was none left for
heating either. It was grim up north ..... :-)

Will
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