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Does anyone happen to know if any 'serious' research has been done into the validity of the folklore saying,

"Red sky at night, shepherd's delight,
Red sky in morning, fisherman's warning."

Just wondered!

Steve J

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Does anyone happen to know if any 'serious' research has been done into the
validity of the folklore saying,

"Red sky at night, shepherd's delight,
Red sky in morning, fisherman's warning."

Just wondered!

Hi, Steve,
Red sky at night, shepherds delight
Red sky in the morning, shepherds warning

I think you've mixed the shepherds and sailors up! It's either one or the
other, but not a mixture. When I lived in Scarborough it was sailors, now in
Copley it's shepherds.
To answer your question, I think it's been shown to be one of the more
accurate folklore sayings. Something to do with most of our weather coming
from the west and the sun lighting cloud layers from below. A google search
will answer more fully.
Don't know whether the research is serious enough for you or not, but it
seems to help our farmers.
Hope that helps a little,
Ken

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Steve Jackson wrote:

Does anyone happen to know if any 'serious' research has been done into the validity of the folklore saying,

"Red sky at night, shepherd's delight,
Red sky in morning, fisherman's warning."


"Red sky at night, shepherd's house alight,
Red sky in morning, shepherd's house still burning"
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On 29/10/2012 11:33, Steve Jackson wrote:
Does anyone happen to know if any 'serious' research has been done into the validity of the folklore saying,

"Red sky at night, shepherd's delight,
Red sky in morning, fisherman's warning."

Just wondered!

Steve J

.... Paul Marriott, who I used to converse with on the Strike conference
back in the 1990s, wrote a book entitled ... "Red Sky at Night,
Shepherd' Delight?"; this was published in 1981 by Sheba Books and is
the result of his researches/analysis into all 'weather lore' that we
are aware of within the British Isles.

He devised a star rating system, from one-star (1-16% correct/very poor)
to six stars (81-100%/Excellent). Not many get the upper rating, and
those of five stars are notable for their rarity, but the particular one
you mention (and which of course is the title of his book), rates five
stars (very good/65-80% correct). There are many variations of the
couplet of course.

Well worth getting a copy if your interest lies in this field. There
must be other researches, but I'm not aware of them.

Available on Amazon ....

http://www.amazon.co.uk/red-sky-nigh.../dp/B000LEJN58

Martin.


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On Monday, October 29, 2012 11:33:33 AM UTC, Steve Jackson wrote:
Does anyone happen to know if any 'serious' research has been done into the validity of the folklore saying, "Red sky at night, shepherd's delight, Red sky in morning, fisherman's warning." Just wondered! Steve J


Thanks for the replies, especially with respect to that book, Martin!

Might just have to start noting red skies in the Met Office diary each day, with appropriate follow up on ensuing weather!

Steve


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