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I have been closely looking at the Scandi High showing on the models but was not particularily excited about it. However, looking at temperatures over Scaninavia, which WIll did mention a day or so ago, it could be a bit of a blast, before the usual mild Christmas :-)

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On Tue, 4 Dec 2012 11:11:16 -0800 (PST)
"Keith (Southend)G" wrote:

I have been closely looking at the Scandi High showing on the models
but was not particularily excited about it. However, looking at
temperatures over Scaninavia, which WIll did mention a day or so ago,
it could be a bit of a blast, before the usual mild Christmas :-)


And here's something for the Sudden Stratospheric Warming enthusiasts:
http://metofficenews.wordpress.com/2...er-atmosphere/

As usual, I've been keeping an eye on the western North Atlantic SST
anomalies but I'm struggling to recognise any particular pattern near
the Grand Banks. Nearest I can come up with is a weak warm pool which
would give a mid-Atlantic high and Norwegian Sea low. I think the
pattern looks more meridional than some I've seen in the recent past so
it suggests to me a slightly cool NW'ly type predominating.
Short-lived NE'lies could occur as lows run SE across the UK.

Anyway, the pattern looks rather weak and could change fairly easily.
Not something I'd risk any money on.

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"Keith (Southend)G" writes:
I have been closely looking at the Scandi High showing on the
models but was not particularily excited about it. However,
looking at temperatures over Scaninavia, which WIll did mention
a day or so ago, it could be a bit of a blast, before the usual mild
Christmas :-)


Both the ECMWF and the GFS seem to have firmed up on an easterly or
north-easterly setting in in about eight days time.
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On Tue, 4 Dec 2012 19:30:52 +0000
John Hall wrote:

In article ,
"Keith (Southend)G" writes:
I have been closely looking at the Scandi High showing on the
models but was not particularily excited about it. However,
looking at temperatures over Scaninavia, which WIll did mention
a day or so ago, it could be a bit of a blast, before the usual mild
Christmas :-)


Both the ECMWF and the GFS seem to have firmed up on an easterly or
north-easterly setting in in about eight days time.


GFS has been going for an easterly in eight days time for the best part
of a couple weeks. ;-)

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In article -jade,
Graham P Davis writes:
On Tue, 4 Dec 2012 19:30:52 +0000
John Hall wrote:

In article ,
"Keith (Southend)G" writes:
I have been closely looking at the Scandi High showing on the
models but was not particularily excited about it. However,
looking at temperatures over Scaninavia, which WIll did mention
a day or so ago, it could be a bit of a blast, before the usual mild
Christmas :-)


Both the ECMWF and the GFS seem to have firmed up on an easterly or
north-easterly setting in in about eight days time.


GFS has been going for an easterly in eight days time for the best part
of a couple weeks. ;-)




Now shown as setting in only six days time on both ECMWF and GFS, though
not on the UKMO (which only goes out to six days - at least as far as
the publicly available charts are concerned).
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On Dec 5, 10:19*am, John Hall wrote:

not on the UKMO (which only goes out to six days - at least as far as
the publicly available charts are concerned).


You mean we pay them to produce more?
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On Dec 5, 10:19 am, John Hall wrote:

not on the UKMO (which only goes out to six days - at least as far as
the publicly available charts are concerned).


You mean we pay them to produce more?

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There are tons of outputs that the public do not have access to.

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Come on Will, what's your take on the current set up? Scandinavia is pretty cold atm as well.

A second day of aerations cancelled :-(

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Come on Will, what's your take on the current set up? Scandinavia is
pretty cold atm as well.

A second day of aerations cancelled :-(


http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/weeklydiscussions.htm

Basically a lovely fine frosty weekend and then high pressure develops to
the NW of Iceland at the left entrance to the confluent upper ridge. Another
(final) low dives SE in the NW'ly jet and then this high links in with the
developing Russian high and we have an easterly. Very confident on that.
Problems start from Tuesday onwards as areas of snow develop over the
continent/North Sea in part due to convection but also in part due to warm
advection aloft. these then migrate westwards (less confident on that).
Later in the week tghe vortex near the Azores spawns developments over
Biscay which edge slowly north and threaten widespread frontal snow in
southern Britain. All in all a most interesting and exciting winter snow
situation is set to develop.

HTH

Will
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On 06/12/2012 11:32, Keith (Southend)G wrote:
Come on Will, what's your take on the current set up? Scandinavia is pretty cold atm as well.

A second day of aerations cancelled :-(

Keith (Southend)
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Talking about garden situations, I've noticed that the soil is diggable
down to about 30 inches. Though it gets a bit sticky in the sub soil.
Unfortunately I had to bury my Aunt’s cat yesterday.

Joe
Wolverhamtpon.


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