"Dawlish" wrote in message
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On Friday, December 7, 2012 9:02:09 AM UTC,
wrote:
Now underway ....

http://acdb-ext.gsfc.nasa.gov/Data_s...2012_merra.pdf



Will

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You should know better and you don't seem to have learned from last year and
the year before Will! To ramp the possibility of snow at this stage from an
SSW event ("stratwarm" is a poor term) is just that - "ramping"; a winter
daftness by people who desperately want it to snow.

For cold (not snow, in the first place) to happen from an SSW event, the
reversal of the higher level winds has to be transmitted to the troposphere
and this then this has to cause blocking. Neither is certain, though both
may happen. The blocking then has to sit in the right position in the
Northern hemisphere and if it sits close to the UK (not certain) it has to
sit in a position to draw cold air our way (i.e. generally to our west, or
to our North). Neither is certain. *Then* amd only then poor robin may have
to tuck its head under it's wing in the run-up to Christmas.

If all these factors follow on sequentially, we may get cold conditions with
a risk of snow for some/many. That little word *if* was huge by its absence
in your post Will and you really should know better.

An SSW is under way, I agree, but the present situation looks like it may be
a weak event and even that it may be almost over before it has developed
into anything major. The forecasts are not "brilliant". Whether it will
affect the UK with snow and be "brilliant news" followed by "COME ON"
is.........well, I'll leave that up to the reader to fill in. *))
======================

Well that's me told off. LOL :-)

Will
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On Friday, December 7, 2012 12:06:54 PM UTC, wrote:
"Dawlish" wrote in message

...

On Friday, December 7, 2012 9:02:09 AM UTC,

wrote:

Now underway ....



http://acdb-ext.gsfc.nasa.gov/Data_s...2012_merra.pdf







Will



--



You should know better and you don't seem to have learned from last year and

the year before Will! To ramp the possibility of snow at this stage from an

SSW event ("stratwarm" is a poor term) is just that - "ramping"; a winter

daftness by people who desperately want it to snow.



For cold (not snow, in the first place) to happen from an SSW event, the

reversal of the higher level winds has to be transmitted to the troposphere

and this then this has to cause blocking. Neither is certain, though both

may happen. The blocking then has to sit in the right position in the

Northern hemisphere and if it sits close to the UK (not certain) it has to

sit in a position to draw cold air our way (i.e. generally to our west, or

to our North). Neither is certain. *Then* amd only then poor robin may have

to tuck its head under it's wing in the run-up to Christmas.



If all these factors follow on sequentially, we may get cold conditions with

a risk of snow for some/many. That little word *if* was huge by its absence

in your post Will and you really should know better.



An SSW is under way, I agree, but the present situation looks like it may be

a weak event and even that it may be almost over before it has developed

into anything major. The forecasts are not "brilliant". Whether it will

affect the UK with snow and be "brilliant news" followed by "COME ON"

is.........well, I'll leave that up to the reader to fill in. *))

======================



Well that's me told off. LOL :-)



Will

--

You deserved to be - and you know it. Tell me something in that post which was incorrect. *))

On Friday, December 7, 2012 12:09:17 PM UTC, Dawlish wrote:
On Friday, December 7, 2012 12:06:54 PM UTC, wrote:

"Dawlish" wrote in message



...



On Friday, December 7, 2012 9:02:09 AM UTC,



wrote:



Now underway ....







http://acdb-ext.gsfc.nasa.gov/Data_s...2012_merra.pdf















Will







--







You should know better and you don't seem to have learned from last year and



the year before Will! To ramp the possibility of snow at this stage from an



SSW event ("stratwarm" is a poor term) is just that - "ramping"; a winter



daftness by people who desperately want it to snow.







For cold (not snow, in the first place) to happen from an SSW event, the



reversal of the higher level winds has to be transmitted to the troposphere



and this then this has to cause blocking. Neither is certain, though both



may happen. The blocking then has to sit in the right position in the



Northern hemisphere and if it sits close to the UK (not certain) it has to



sit in a position to draw cold air our way (i.e. generally to our west, or



to our North). Neither is certain. *Then* amd only then poor robin may have



to tuck its head under it's wing in the run-up to Christmas.







If all these factors follow on sequentially, we may get cold conditions with



a risk of snow for some/many. That little word *if* was huge by its absence



in your post Will and you really should know better.







An SSW is under way, I agree, but the present situation looks like it may be



a weak event and even that it may be almost over before it has developed



into anything major. The forecasts are not "brilliant". Whether it will



affect the UK with snow and be "brilliant news" followed by "COME ON"



is.........well, I'll leave that up to the reader to fill in. *))



======================







Well that's me told off. LOL :-)







Will



--



You deserved to be - and you know it. Tell me something in that post which was incorrect. *))

Just one thing from the first "you" to the last *)), Will

Bet you can't.

On Friday, December 7, 2012 8:35:08 PM UTC, Dawlish wrote:
On Friday, December 7, 2012 12:09:17 PM UTC, Dawlish wrote:

On Friday, December 7, 2012 12:06:54 PM UTC, wrote:



"Dawlish" wrote in message







...







On Friday, December 7, 2012 9:02:09 AM UTC,







wrote:







Now underway ....















http://acdb-ext.gsfc.nasa.gov/Data_s...2012_merra.pdf































Will















--















You should know better and you don't seem to have learned from last year and







the year before Will! To ramp the possibility of snow at this stage from an







SSW event ("stratwarm" is a poor term) is just that - "ramping"; a winter







daftness by people who desperately want it to snow.















For cold (not snow, in the first place) to happen from an SSW event, the







reversal of the higher level winds has to be transmitted to the troposphere







and this then this has to cause blocking. Neither is certain, though both







may happen. The blocking then has to sit in the right position in the







Northern hemisphere and if it sits close to the UK (not certain) it has to







sit in a position to draw cold air our way (i.e. generally to our west, or







to our North). Neither is certain. *Then* amd only then poor robin may have







to tuck its head under it's wing in the run-up to Christmas.















If all these factors follow on sequentially, we may get cold conditions with







a risk of snow for some/many. That little word *if* was huge by its absence







in your post Will and you really should know better.















An SSW is under way, I agree, but the present situation looks like it may be







a weak event and even that it may be almost over before it has developed







into anything major. The forecasts are not "brilliant". Whether it will







affect the UK with snow and be "brilliant news" followed by "COME ON"







is.........well, I'll leave that up to the reader to fill in. *))







======================















Well that's me told off. LOL :-)















Will







--







You deserved to be - and you know it. Tell me something in that post which was incorrect. *))



Just one thing from the first "you" to the last *)), Will



Bet you can't.

Nothing wrong with it Will, is there? Your comment; "It's brilliant news Dave!
COME ON :-)" is simply based on an inaccurate appreciation of the current state of the science. Harsh, I know, but true.

Now come on; my comments on the SSW event are accurate, aren't they? It still looks like a weak event, but we do have some cold weather with perhaps some snow coming . To imply that the one is causing the other would be iffy at best. At worst, it's simply ramping and that is plain silly.

I lurk these days rather than post a lot, but there is the odd and inaccurate post from people who should know better. The ones who haven't the brains to know know better and the ones who feel they can somehow try to police a newsgroup don't deserve comment.

Interesting stuff from you about the MetO too. Someone must have really upset you, or you must have got very peed off with the way you were being treated to be so harsh to your previous employers. Is there really any need? You've left and retired. Let it go now. *))

On Sat, 08 Dec 2012 00:35:19 -0800, Dawlish wrote:

380 lines of badly formatted cobblers followed by this snipe:

I lurk these days rather than post a lot, but there is the odd and
inaccurate post from people who should know better. The ones who haven't
the brains to know know better and the ones who feel they can somehow
try to police a newsgroup don't deserve comment.

And you're the only one who isn't fooled! It's lucky you're still around
to look out for the rest of us. If you weren't so dimwitted your attitude
would be insulting.