Dream on.
Rainfall total to 1800 today 26.3 mm.
That is the equivalent of over a foot of snow.
This was the day it was forecast (as a possibilty) to snow when the
mild Atlantic air met the cold continental air.
LOL.
Admittedly the forecast was for 6 days ahead and no probabilty
percentage was attached.

Len Wood
Wembury, SW Devon

"Len Wood" wrote in message
...
Dream on.
Rainfall total to 1800 today 26.3 mm.
That is the equivalent of over a foot of snow.
This was the day it was forecast (as a possibilty) to snow when the
mild Atlantic air met the cold continental air.
LOL.
Admittedly the forecast was for 6 days ahead and no probabilty
percentage was attached.

Which forecast was that?
The CF forecast (5 days out) predicted no snow whatsoever as this
system moved in.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl

Col wrote:


"Len Wood" wrote in message
...
Dream on.
Rainfall total to 1800 today 26.3 mm.
That is the equivalent of over a foot of snow.
This was the day it was forecast (as a possibilty) to snow when the
mild Atlantic air met the cold continental air.
LOL.
Admittedly the forecast was for 6 days ahead and no probabilty
percentage was attached.

Which forecast was that?
The CF forecast (5 days out) predicted no snow whatsoever as this
system moved in.

It was flagged as a distinct possibility last Fri/Sat/Sun as shown on the Met
Office forecasts below

---------------------------------------------------
UK Outlook for Wednesday 12 Dec 2012 to Friday 21 Dec 2012:

Most indications suggest that the start of the period will be cold across all
areas, with temperatures generally significantly below average. There should be
some dry weather, but showers are possible almost anywhere in the UK. These may
be a wintry mix of sleet and hail on windward coasts, but are likely to fall as
snow anywhere inland. Widespread overnight frosts are likely, with a risk of
ice and freezing fog in places. Although details are very uncertain, there are
signs that less cold air will try to spread in from the southwest from the
middle of the month. This may bring outbreaks of rain to some areas, and
potentially some persistent snowfall where this rain meets the cold air already
in place across the UK.

Updated: 1240 on Fri 7 Dec 2012


----------------------------------------------------
UK Outlook for Thursday 13 Dec 2012 to Saturday 22 Dec 2012:

Southern, eastern and some central areas are likely to see a continuation of
mostly sunny conditions through Thursday but staying cold with overnight frost
and wintry showers in places. Elsewhere, the weather is expected to turn more
unsettled but less cold, with these conditions edging north and east through
Friday. This could give significant snowfall in places at first, particularly
over hills. Winds will be initially light but it will turn windier from the
southwest. Through the remainder of the period, it is likely to remain
unsettled and windy in all areas with outbreaks of rain, heaviest in the south
west. Temperatures are expected to be close to or just below the seasonal
average with a continued risk of snow in places, mainly on higher ground from
the midlands northwards.

Updated: 1104 on Sat 8 Dec 2012


----------------------------------------------------
UK Outlook for Friday 14 Dec 2012 to Sunday 23 Dec 2012:

Through Friday and Saturday, a transition to milder and unsettled conditions is
expected across the UK. Rain, locally heavy, will spread into South West
England and then move north east across the country. The rain may be preceded
by a period of snow, particularly across higher ground of Northern England and
Scotland. Clearer but showery conditions will follow into the west. Becoming
windy with a risk of gales in places. After a cold start across the north and
east, temperatures will recover closer to average across all parts. Staying
unsettled through the remainder of the period with rainbands crossing the UK,
turning clearer but showery in between. Temperatures will be close to the
seasonal average, milder at times in the south, but there may be overnight
frost in clearer spells.

Updated: 1103 on Sun 9 Dec 2012

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.

On Dec 14, 10:02*pm, "Norman" wrote:
Col wrote:

"Len Wood" wrote in message
....
Dream on.
Rainfall total to 1800 today 26.3 mm.
That is the equivalent of over a foot of snow.
This was the day it was forecast (as a possibilty) to snow when the
mild Atlantic air met the cold continental air.
LOL.
Admittedly the forecast was for 6 days ahead and no probabilty
percentage was attached.

Which forecast was that?
The CF forecast (5 days out) predicted no snow whatsoever as this
system moved in.

It was flagged as a distinct possibility last Fri/Sat/Sun as shown on the Met
Office forecasts below

---------------------------------------------------
UK Outlook for Wednesday 12 Dec 2012 to Friday 21 Dec 2012:

Most indications suggest that the start of the period will be cold across all
areas, with temperatures generally significantly below average. There should be
some dry weather, but showers are possible almost anywhere in the UK. These may
be a wintry mix of sleet and hail on windward coasts, but are likely to fall as
snow anywhere inland. Widespread overnight frosts are likely, with a risk of
ice and freezing fog in places. Although details are very uncertain, there are
signs that less cold air will try to spread in from the southwest from the
middle of the month. This may bring outbreaks of rain to some areas, and
potentially some persistent snowfall where this rain meets the cold air already
in place across the UK.

Updated: 1240 on Fri 7 Dec 2012

----------------------------------------------------
UK Outlook for Thursday 13 Dec 2012 to Saturday 22 Dec 2012:

Southern, eastern and some central areas are likely to see a continuation of
mostly sunny conditions through Thursday but staying cold with overnight frost
and wintry showers in places. Elsewhere, the weather is expected to turn more
unsettled but less cold, with these conditions edging north and east through
Friday. This could give significant snowfall in places at first, particularly
over hills. Winds will be initially light but it will turn windier from the
southwest. Through the remainder of the period, it is likely to remain
unsettled and windy in all areas with outbreaks of rain, heaviest in the south
west. Temperatures are expected to be close to or just below the seasonal
average with a continued risk of snow in places, mainly on higher ground from
the midlands northwards.

Updated: 1104 on Sat 8 Dec 2012

----------------------------------------------------
UK Outlook for Friday 14 Dec 2012 to Sunday 23 Dec 2012:

Through Friday and Saturday, a transition to milder and unsettled conditions is
expected across the UK. Rain, locally heavy, will spread into South West
England and then move north east across the country. The rain may be preceded
by a period of snow, particularly across higher ground of Northern England and
Scotland. Clearer but showery conditions will follow into the west. Becoming
windy with a risk of gales in places. After a cold start across the north and
east, temperatures will recover closer to average across all parts. Staying
unsettled through the remainder of the period with rainbands crossing the UK,
turning clearer but showery in between. Temperatures will be close to the
seasonal average, milder at times in the south, but there may be overnight
frost in clearer spells.

Updated: 1103 on Sun 9 Dec 2012

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Thanks, Norman. I now realise it wasn't my imagination that even the
big guns, including the Met Office, were ramping the possiblities of
widespread snow this week as recently as last Friday. The perils of
forecasting more than 72hrs ahead!

"Norman" wrote in message
...
Col wrote:


Which forecast was that?
The CF forecast (5 days out) predicted no snow whatsoever as this
system moved in.

It was flagged as a distinct possibility last Fri/Sat/Sun as shown on the
Met
Office forecasts below

It is interesting though how the wording through the three forecasts
gradually reduces the significance of the snow.

The CF forecast, issued just an hour and a half later than the 3rd
one there, didn't even mention snow on high ground in Scotland.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl

In article
,
Scott W writes:
On Dec 14, 10:02*pm, "Norman" wrote:
Col wrote:

"Len Wood" wrote in message
...
Dream on.
Rainfall total to 1800 today 26.3 mm.
That is the equivalent of over a foot of snow.
This was the day it was forecast (as a possibilty) to snow when the
mild Atlantic air met the cold continental air.
LOL.
Admittedly the forecast was for 6 days ahead and no probabilty
percentage was attached.

Which forecast was that?
The CF forecast (5 days out) predicted no snow whatsoever as this
system moved in.

It was flagged as a distinct possibility last Fri/Sat/Sun as shown on the Met
Office forecasts below

---------------------------------------------------
UK Outlook for Wednesday 12 Dec 2012 to Friday 21 Dec 2012:

Most indications suggest that the start of the period will be cold across all
areas, with temperatures generally significantly below average.
There should be
some dry weather, but showers are possible almost anywhere in
the UK. These may
be a wintry mix of sleet and hail on windward coasts, but are
likely to fall as
snow anywhere inland. Widespread overnight frosts are likely, with a risk of
ice and freezing fog in places. Although details are very
uncertain, there are
signs that less cold air will try to spread in from the southwest from the
middle of the month. This may bring outbreaks of rain to some areas, and
potentially some persistent snowfall where this rain meets the
cold air already
in place across the UK.

Updated: 1240 on Fri 7 Dec 2012

----------------------------------------------------
UK Outlook for Thursday 13 Dec 2012 to Saturday 22 Dec 2012:

Southern, eastern and some central areas are likely to see a continuation of
mostly sunny conditions through Thursday but staying cold with
overnight frost
and wintry showers in places. Elsewhere, the weather is expected to turn more
unsettled but less cold, with these conditions edging north and east through
Friday. This could give significant snowfall in places at first, particularly
over hills. Winds will be initially light but it will turn windier from the
southwest. Through the remainder of the period, it is likely to remain
unsettled and windy in all areas with outbreaks of rain, heaviest
in the south
west. Temperatures are expected to be close to or just below the seasonal
average with a continued risk of snow in places, mainly on higher ground from
the midlands northwards.

Updated: 1104 on Sat 8 Dec 2012

----------------------------------------------------
UK Outlook for Friday 14 Dec 2012 to Sunday 23 Dec 2012:

Through Friday and Saturday, a transition to milder and
unsettled conditions is
expected across the UK. Rain, locally heavy, will spread into South West
England and then move north east across the country. The rain may be preceded
by a period of snow, particularly across higher ground of
Northern England and
Scotland. Clearer but showery conditions will follow into the west. Becoming
windy with a risk of gales in places. After a cold start across the north and
east, temperatures will recover closer to average across all parts. Staying
unsettled through the remainder of the period with rainbands crossing the UK,
turning clearer but showery in between. Temperatures will be close to the
seasonal average, milder at times in the south, but there may be overnight
frost in clearer spells.

Updated: 1103 on Sun 9 Dec 2012

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Thanks, Norman. I now realise it wasn't my imagination that even the
big guns, including the Met Office, were ramping the possiblities of
widespread snow this week as recently as last Friday. The perils of
forecasting more than 72hrs ahead!

I would hardly call that "ramping". They flagged up the possibility of
snow, reasonably enough I would have thought, but never suggested that
it was more than a possibility.
--
John Hall

"Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong."
Oscar Wilde

"Scott W" wrote in message
...


Thanks, Norman. I now realise it wasn't my imagination that even the
big guns, including the Met Office, were ramping the possiblities of
widespread snow this week as recently as last Friday. The perils of
forecasting more than 72hrs ahead!

It all depends on perspective. Here, 600 miles north of you it has been a
bitter week
with temperatures rarely rising above 0C. and falling to around -10C. With
the
fronts moving in on Thursday, we had another 7cm. of snow overnight on top
of the existing 3cm. The snow only began to thaw last night and the snow
level is now around 300m. with fresh snow last night. Temperature currently
+3.5C. For us the forecast of a week ago was spot on.

Phil
Northern Highlands of Scotland, 40 miles N. of Inverness