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World COOLING has set in and is here to stay. Piers explains his
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World COOLING has set in and is here to stay. Piers explains his
"solar lunar amplification magnetic process"

http://groups.google.com/group/uk.sc...her/post?hl=en


S-LAMP eh? Fancy words but what does it all mean?
You know what, I really do not think Piers knows much about meteorology. I
met him many years ago and corresponded for a while but he seemed unwilling
to learn preferring to campaign against the MetO and establishment instead.
Have you not noticed that Piers usually says the opposite of what the MetO
say? I wonder why? So on the odd occasion he is right he can use it to bash
the MetO with. Funnily enough the MetO think he is "eccentric" and he is
safely ignored!

Will
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http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
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On Friday, January 4, 2013 3:08:20 PM UTC, wrote:
"Jim Cannon" wrote in message ... World COOLING has set in and is here to stay. Piers explains his "solar lunar amplification magnetic process" http://groups.google.com/group/uk.sc...her/post?hl=en S-LAMP eh? Fancy words but what does it all mean? You know what, I really do not think Piers knows much about meteorology. I met him many years ago and corresponded for a while but he seemed unwilling to learn preferring to campaign against the MetO and establishment instead. Have you not noticed that Piers usually says the opposite of what the MetO say? I wonder why? So on the odd occasion he is right he can use it to bash the MetO with. Funnily enough the MetO think he is "eccentric" and he is safely ignored! Will -- http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl) ---------------------------------------------


'Eccentric' but not ignorant. This chap has spoken at the same conferences as PROFESSOR (no longer just plain doctor anymore!) David Bellamy, who has also queried the official line on global warming and glacial shrinkage quotients. This man is 79 - soon to be 80 - years old. He knows what he is talking about - just like Piers - a bit more than George Monbiot and their ilk who had the temerity to say once that PROFESSOR Bellamy had got his facts wrong live in front of John Snow on C4 news.

Ever wondered why you don't see Professor Bellamy and Piers on the mainstream channels anymore? It's because their TRUTHS do not fit the rubbish that is the official line now.
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Jim Cannon writes:
'Eccentric' but not ignorant. This chap has spoken at the same
conferences as PROFESSOR (no longer just plain doctor anymore!)
David Bellamy, who has also queried the official line on global
warming and glacial shrinkage quotients. This man is 79 - soon to
be 80 - years old. He knows what he is talking about - just like
Piers - a bit more than George Monbiot and their ilk who had the
temerity to say once that PROFESSOR Bellamy had got his facts
wrong live in front of John Snow on C4 news.


Professor Bellamy's area of expertise is biology. When it comes to
climatology he is no different from most of the posters to this group
(myself included): opinionated but non-expert.
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John Hall wrote:
In article ,
Jim Cannon writes:
'Eccentric' but not ignorant. This chap has spoken at the same
conferences as PROFESSOR (no longer just plain doctor anymore!)
David Bellamy, who has also queried the official line on global
warming and glacial shrinkage quotients. This man is 79 - soon to
be 80 - years old. He knows what he is talking about - just like
Piers - a bit more than George Monbiot and their ilk who had the
temerity to say once that PROFESSOR Bellamy had got his facts
wrong live in front of John Snow on C4 news.


Professor Bellamy's area of expertise is biology. When it comes to
climatology he is no different from most of the posters to this group
(myself included): opinionated but non-expert.

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......... and as someone with A level Botany I can assure you we can't do
the maths!
Dave


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On 4 Jan, 19:01, John Hall wrote:
In article 90ad789b-307a-4db5-

Professor Bellamy's area of expertise is biology. When it comes to
climatology he is no different from most of the posters to this group
(myself included): opinionated but non-expert.


If he is a professor in biology, surely he is in a reasonably good
position to understand the effects of glowballs, even if he doesn't go
along with the idiots at Reading. Isn't he?

I have no idea what his stand on the subject is these days. But I
think Will Hand is correct when he says it aught to come here from the
tropics as wet weather as heat translates into pressure.

Once you start thinking of the interplay between heat and pressure in
atmosphere dynamics the problem immediately diminishes. All that hot
air rising taking all that methane and carbon dioxide with it.

All that heat turning into stirring rotational storms providing
nutrients where they can do the most good.

It's comforting.
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Has the world started to cool - probably not.

The fig quoted in Piers web
http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...99496468_n.jpg
Looks to me to be the model climate from the CFS2 compared to the reanalysis
CFSR (35KM resolution) but not the real, estimated or measured climate.
Given that CFS2 looks a bit warm a trend to lower values in that model would
be a good thing.

The "real" or measured climate - well at least a representation of it can be
seen at:

http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/te...ure/nhshgl.gif
or
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs_v3/ check the base periods which
can vary

The last link (scroll down the page) shows at least part of the southern
hemi is still warming despite a small hesitation elsewhere in the rolling 5
year means.

On a personal note, I remember Piers giving a poster presentation in front
of a group which included leading European and UK Met staff, Directors and
some heads of National Met Services. He would not elaborate on his methods
despite genuine interest. From memory the forecast did not turn out well,
but then some forecasts don't and that's life.














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Jim Cannon writes:
World COOLING has set in and is here to stay. Piers explains his
"solar lunar amplification magnetic process"

http://groups.google.com/group/uk.sc...her/post?hl=en


He might explain it, but not in the link that you give above, which
seems to be one for posting to this very newsgroup.
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Jim Cannon wrote:
World COOLING has set in and is here to stay. Piers explains his
"solar lunar amplification magnetic process"

http://groups.google.com/group/uk.sc...her/post?hl=en

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I'll add a tick to that.
Dave
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