Written by John Hammond and a video by Peter Gibbs.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/20998895

I really appreciate the balance of John's article acknowledging that for
some, snow is a joy, and to others, it is something to endure.

Dare I suggest that this will be instructive reading/viewing for all who use
this newsgroup.

Cheers,
Will
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In article ,
Eskimo Will writes:
Written by John Hammond and a video by Peter Gibbs.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/20998895

I really appreciate the balance of John's article acknowledging
that for some, snow is a joy, and to others, it is something to
endure.

Dare I suggest that this will be instructive reading/viewing for all
who use this newsgroup.

Very interesting. From what John Hammond writes, it would seem that - in
spite of the stratosphere now being modelled in more detail than
hitherto - our understanding of how it influences the troposphere still
has some way to go. Otherwise there wouldn't be the greater than unusual
uncertainty about what the situation will be beyond about five days out.
--
John Hall

"Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong."
Oscar Wilde

On Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:45:44 PM UTC, John Hall wrote:
In article ,

Eskimo Will writes:

Written by John Hammond and a video by Peter Gibbs.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/20998895



I really appreciate the balance of John's article acknowledging

that for some, snow is a joy, and to others, it is something to

endure.



Dare I suggest that this will be instructive reading/viewing for all

who use this newsgroup.



Very interesting. From what John Hammond writes, it would seem that - in

spite of the stratosphere now being modelled in more detail than

hitherto - our understanding of how it influences the troposphere still

has some way to go. Otherwise there wouldn't be the greater than unusual

uncertainty about what the situation will be beyond about five days out.

--

John Hall



"Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong."

Oscar Wilde

It is an excellent article and as you say, that is exactly what it says. With luck, Will will be a little less forceful in declaring that the relationship between an SSW and cold/snow in the UK is quite so strong as he would wish. I did say the same after the SSW of late Jan 2012, which did not produce the cold "expected" of it, but my request fell on deaf ears.

"Dawlish" wrote in message
...
On Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:45:44 PM UTC, John Hall wrote:
In article ,

Eskimo Will writes:

Written by John Hammond and a video by Peter Gibbs.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/20998895



I really appreciate the balance of John's article acknowledging

that for some, snow is a joy, and to others, it is something to

endure.



Dare I suggest that this will be instructive reading/viewing for all

who use this newsgroup.



Very interesting. From what John Hammond writes, it would seem that - in

spite of the stratosphere now being modelled in more detail than

hitherto - our understanding of how it influences the troposphere still

has some way to go. Otherwise there wouldn't be the greater than unusual

uncertainty about what the situation will be beyond about five days out.

--

John Hall



"Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong."

Oscar Wilde

It is an excellent article and as you say, that is exactly what it says.
With luck, Will will be a little less forceful in declaring that the
relationship between an SSW and cold/snow in the UK is quite so strong as he
would wish. I did say the same after the SSW of late Jan 2012, which did not
produce the cold "expected" of it, but my request fell on deaf ears.
========================

You really are annoying Dawlish. I have always said that a SSW increases the
*potential for very cold weather* in the UK. I have quoted 75% from Adam
Scaife (Hadley Centre) and also note that Peter Gibbs says about 2/3 in his
video, did you watch that? Sometimes I really do think you do not understand
meteorology and just wish to continue with your silly and stupid campaign
against what you call "internet coldies" who just happen to enjoy and not
endure snow and cold as John hammond would say. Also who posted the link
(with John's permission by e-mail)? - me.

Will
--

On Jan 13, 5:32*pm, "Eskimo Will" wrote:

You really are annoying Dawlish.
Sometimes I really do think you do not understand
meteorology and just wish to continue with your silly and stupid campaign

And I am surprised you think telling him anything or appealing to him
for reason.

You make it look like he is not the only one who can not learn.
Be told!
He is obviously to be pitied and if not treated with respect, the due
deference anyone would pay to someone they are glad they are not.

Now then, back on track:
Anyone got a link to a decent northern hemisphere surface pressure
chart?

This one has a decent roll back on it but it's an Africa short of an
hemisphere.

http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~fxg1/HEMI5...p.html#picture

On Sunday, January 13, 2013 5:32:10 PM UTC, wrote:
"Dawlish" wrote in message

...

On Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:45:44 PM UTC, John Hall wrote:

In article ,



Eskimo Will writes:



Written by John Hammond and a video by Peter Gibbs.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/20998895







I really appreciate the balance of John's article acknowledging



that for some, snow is a joy, and to others, it is something to



endure.







Dare I suggest that this will be instructive reading/viewing for all



who use this newsgroup.







Very interesting. From what John Hammond writes, it would seem that - in



spite of the stratosphere now being modelled in more detail than



hitherto - our understanding of how it influences the troposphere still



has some way to go. Otherwise there wouldn't be the greater than unusual



uncertainty about what the situation will be beyond about five days out.



--



John Hall







"Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong."



Oscar Wilde



It is an excellent article and as you say, that is exactly what it says.

With luck, Will will be a little less forceful in declaring that the

relationship between an SSW and cold/snow in the UK is quite so strong as he

would wish. I did say the same after the SSW of late Jan 2012, which did not

produce the cold "expected" of it, but my request fell on deaf ears.

========================



You really are annoying Dawlish. I have always said that a SSW increases the

*potential for very cold weather* in the UK. I have quoted 75% from Adam

Scaife (Hadley Centre) and also note that Peter Gibbs says about 2/3 in his

video, did you watch that? Sometimes I really do think you do not understand

meteorology and just wish to continue with your silly and stupid campaign

against what you call "internet coldies" who just happen to enjoy and not

endure snow and cold as John hammond would say. Also who posted the link

(with John's permission by e-mail)? - me.



Will

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Really. Yawn.