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Martin Rowley wrote:
Listening to BBC Radio Solent where people are ringing in with snow
depths, then generally away from the immediate coastal strip the figures
are coming in between 5 and 10 cm, but some reports well inland of
around 15 cm. Traffic variable - but light - a lot of people have
obviously taken the day off - but even so Police are advising of poor
conditions on even the 'major' east/west routes, especially on slip
roads, e.g., M27 west of Southampton. Isle of Wight appears to be bad too.


My son lives in Westbourne and has been trying to get to work in Poole.
He's texted to say that his bus has taken 3/4 hour to do the first mile!

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On 18/01/2013 09:19, Martin Rowley wrote:
.... 18/0800Z: continuous PPN, mostly slight snow, varying flake size,
but short periods small size and close to sleet; however, a gentle rise
in accumulated depth ... ~4cm as a mean, LOC 6cm: traffic (light - a lot
of people obviously decided not to bother) still edging along ... buses
running(!); visibility ~600-800M. OAT 0.3°C.
Little lad next door (3yo) with nose pressed against the window in awe!
... 18/0900Z: still snowing - mainly moderate snowfall, moderate size
flakes - sticking well. Average depth 6 cm (for climatological ob), but
at least 25% areas with 7 or 8 cm and the odd spot 9 cm. OAT 0.5°C.
Roads etc., still running OK, including buses, but slow. visibility
similar to above. Haven't measured the 'official' rainfall equivalent
but will do a rough sample from my small stand-by gauge.


.... 18/1000Z: all slight snow so visibility reduction now due more to
mistiness (600-800M); little additional depth, circa 1/2 to 1 cm at
most. OAT: 0.4°C. [ Isolated reports on radio of '6 inches'/which would
be ~15 cm, well to the north of us in the Cranborne Vale, but of course
can't verify that.]

Martin.


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Height (amsl): 17 m (56 feet)
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On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 09:43:56 +0000, Martin Rowley
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On 18/01/2013 09:39, Norman wrote:
Martin Rowley wrote:


... 18/0800Z: continuous PPN, mostly slight snow, varying flake size, but
short periods small size and close to sleet; however, a gentle rise in
accumulated depth ... ~4cm as a mean, LOC 6cm: traffic (light - a lot of
people obviously decided not to bother) still edging along ... buses
running(!); visibility ~600-800M. OAT 0.3°C. Little lad next door (3yo) with
nose pressed against the window in awe!

Martin.



Quick.....sign him up for u.s.w.


... I'm working on it Norman! He's also got a little brother rising-2,
so I've got a back-up :-)

Listening to BBC Radio Solent where people are ringing in with snow
depths, then generally away from the immediate coastal strip the figures
are coming in between 5 and 10 cm, but some reports well inland of
around 15 cm. Traffic variable - but light - a lot of people have
obviously taken the day off - but even so Police are advising of poor
conditions on even the 'major' east/west routes, especially on slip
roads, e.g., M27 west of Southampton. Isle of Wight appears to be bad too.

I am told on good authority that there's over 5 cm down on the Solent
coastline too, Gosport/Lee on Solent usually miss it but not this
time.

7 to 9 cm here in West Fareham and counting... 0.0 deg C, no
significant drifting.

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... 18/1000Z: all slight snow so visibility reduction now due more to
mistiness (600-800M); little additional depth, circa 1/2 to 1 cm at
most. OAT: 0.4°C. [ Isolated reports on radio of '6 inches'/which would
be ~15 cm, well to the north of us in the Cranborne Vale, but of course
can't verify that.]

.... 18/1100Z: light snow continues ... proper flakes ... sticky ...
visibility still in fog limits but not due to the snowfall intensity.
Little 'new' snow again, so total amounts holding steady around 6 cm
mean with LOC pockets 7 or 8 cm, some settling now. Been clearing paths
and it's clear that a lot of heat is coming up from below.

From my stand-by gauge, the total PPN at 09Z (24hr up to then) = 11.9
mm. Doesn't truly relate to the snow depth as when the event started,
there was an extended period of sleet, and given the nature of the
'true' snow, it's 'flopped down' (i.e. settled) from its theoretical
maximum depth.

OAT: 0.3°C (note, coming down)

Martin.


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... 18/1100Z: light snow continues ... proper flakes ... sticky ...
visibility still in fog limits but not due to the snowfall intensity.
Little 'new' snow again, so total amounts holding steady around 6 cm
mean with LOC pockets 7 or 8 cm, some settling now. Been clearing paths
and it's clear that a lot of heat is coming up from below.

From my stand-by gauge, the total PPN at 09Z (24hr up to then) = 11.9
mm. Doesn't truly relate to the snow depth as when the event started,
there was an extended period of sleet, and given the nature of the
'true' snow, it's 'flopped down' (i.e. settled) from its theoretical
maximum depth.

OAT: 0.3°C (note, coming down)


.... 18/1200Z: continuous slight snow (proper flakes/varying sizes)
still, but showing signs of easing further in intensisty: visibility
hovering just within fog limits (~900M). New depth since 09Z perhaps 1
cm, but overall depth has if anything settled back from the mean of 6 cm
at that time to around 5 cm.
OAT: 0.4°C.

Martin.



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Height (amsl): 17 m (56 feet)
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... 18/1200Z: continuous slight snow (proper flakes/varying sizes)
still, but showing signs of easing further in intensisty: visibility
hovering just within fog limits (~900M). New depth since 09Z perhaps 1
cm, but overall depth has if anything settled back from the mean of 6 cm
at that time to around 5 cm.
OAT: 0.4°C.

.... 18/1300Z: snow continues - back to a mix of slight ocnl moderate -
no real extra depth but where I've cleared the snow, there's a shallow
layer 1 cm. Visibility back down to 500 or 600M, combination of
slightly increased intensity of snow and general visibility reduction.
OAT: 0.4°C
Traffic still light; Wilts and Dorset buses have given up I think, but
YellowBus continue (both operating to/from Bournemouth but W&D have to
go on more country routes).

Martin.



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... 18/1300Z: snow continues - back to a mix of slight ocnl moderate -
no real extra depth but where I've cleared the snow, there's a shallow
layer 1 cm. Visibility back down to 500 or 600M, combination of
slightly increased intensity of snow and general visibility reduction.
OAT: 0.4°C
Traffic still light; Wilts and Dorset buses have given up I think, but
YellowBus continue (both operating to/from Bournemouth but W&D have to
go on more country routes).


.... 18/1400Z: snow has been continuous past hour (as it has been since
~0330Z this morning), but has now eased considerably - very slight past
10/15 minutes - still gloomy OVC; visibility now ~1500M. OAT: 0.6°C.

Martin.



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... 18/1400Z: snow has been continuous past hour (as it has been since
~0330Z this morning), but has now eased considerably - very slight past
10/15 minutes - still gloomy OVC; visibility now ~1500M. OAT: 0.6°C.

.... 18/1545Z: the 'proper' snow eased back to rain/snow mixed plus snow
pellets by 1415Z, and there is very little PPN coming out of a grey sky
(though with markedly lifted base and visibility now at least 4 km).

Finally managed to apportion-out a rainfall ex five-inch gauge which
gives period 17/0900 to 18/0900Z = 11.9 mm: and up to my messing about
around 1400Z, another 7.1 mm ... total for the 'event' then 19.0 mm, but
as you can see from my depth reports [means 09Z to 15Z varying between 5
and 8 cm], nothing like a 10:1 ratio was produced in snow depth ...
though I fancy if the starting temperature had been lower (it was around
3degC) and the ground a lot colder (as per East Anglia for example),
then we would have had a much higher yield.

All-in-all though, a 'useful' event and certainly better than last winter!

Martin.



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... 18/1400Z: snow has been continuous past hour (as it has been since
~0330Z this morning), but has now eased considerably - very slight past
10/15 minutes - still gloomy OVC; visibility now ~1500M. OAT: 0.6°C.

... 18/1545Z: the 'proper' snow eased back to rain/snow mixed plus snow
pellets by 1415Z, and there is very little PPN coming out of a grey sky
(though with markedly lifted base and visibility now at least 4 km).

Finally managed to apportion-out a rainfall ex five-inch gauge which gives
period 17/0900 to 18/0900Z = 11.9 mm: and up to my messing about around
1400Z, another 7.1 mm ... total for the 'event' then 19.0 mm, but as you
can see from my depth reports [means 09Z to 15Z varying between 5 and 8
cm], nothing like a 10:1 ratio was produced in snow depth ... though I
fancy if the starting temperature had been lower (it was around 3degC) and
the ground a lot colder (as per East Anglia for example), then we would
have had a much higher yield.

All-in-all though, a 'useful' event and certainly better than last winter!

Martin.



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Height (amsl): 17 m (56 feet)
COL category: C1 overall


A fascinating and absorbing set of reports... thank you for those.
It was particularly interesting to hear of your snow accumulating
at a similar rate to that of Romsey until around 1000Z when our
depths took a departure. Our level continued to climb to 12cm
in sub-zero temperatures while yours struggled to maintain 6cm
due to the slightly loftier temperatures in closer proximity to the
English Channel. It's amazing what even half a degree Celsius
difference can make.

Melting the snow up to 6pm has yielded 13.6mm of equivalent
rainfall for this event.

I note you were up even earlier than me this morning... by about
an hour.

Nigel



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"Dave Ludlow" wrote in message
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On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 09:43:56 +0000, Martin Rowley
wrote:

On 18/01/2013 09:39, Norman wrote:
Martin Rowley wrote:


... 18/0800Z: continuous PPN, mostly slight snow, varying flake size,
but
short periods small size and close to sleet; however, a gentle rise in
accumulated depth ... ~4cm as a mean, LOC 6cm: traffic (light - a lot
of
people obviously decided not to bother) still edging along ... buses
running(!); visibility ~600-800M. OAT 0.3°C. Little lad next door
(3yo) with
nose pressed against the window in awe!

Martin.


Quick.....sign him up for u.s.w.


... I'm working on it Norman! He's also got a little brother rising-2,
so I've got a back-up :-)

Listening to BBC Radio Solent where people are ringing in with snow
depths, then generally away from the immediate coastal strip the figures
are coming in between 5 and 10 cm, but some reports well inland of
around 15 cm. Traffic variable - but light - a lot of people have
obviously taken the day off - but even so Police are advising of poor
conditions on even the 'major' east/west routes, especially on slip
roads, e.g., M27 west of Southampton. Isle of Wight appears to be bad too.

I am told on good authority that there's over 5 cm down on the Solent
coastline too, Gosport/Lee on Solent usually miss it but not this
time.

7 to 9 cm here in West Fareham and counting... 0.0 deg C, no
significant drifting.

--
Dave
West Fareham



My father at Wootton on the opposite side of the Solent from you
measured 6cm at a height of 40m amsl and less than a mile from
the coast. Deeper snow further inland on the Isle of Wight, if you
can call anything 'inland' on that island.

Nigel




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