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Default Snow just started in Haytor 21/1/13

Snowing now at 2240. Big flakes, settling.
Temperature has shot up in past couple of hours.
T +0.9C D +0.9C

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Default Snow just started in Haytor 21/1/13

On 21/01/2013 22:45, Eskimo Will wrote:
Snowing now at 2240. Big flakes, settling.
Temperature has shot up in past couple of hours.
T +0.9C D +0.9C

Will


Have you built that igloo yet, Will?

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Snowing now at 2240. Big flakes, settling.
Temperature has shot up in past couple of hours.
T +0.9C D +0.9C

Will
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Your temps in this spell ,seem pretty reluctant to keep below freezing Will,
SSW seems to favour the East ...

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"Eskimo Will" wrote in message
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Snowing now at 2240. Big flakes, settling.
Temperature has shot up in past couple of hours.
T +0.9C D +0.9C

Will
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http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
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Your temps in this spell ,seem pretty reluctant to keep below freezing
Will,
SSW seems to favour the East ...


Nothing to do with SSW. I'm surrounded by warmth. It is only altitude that
keeps me cold here in Devon.
That's why I chose to live on Dartmoor (to escape mild winters). I get my
fair share of snow but really low temperatures are not common.

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Default Snow just started in Haytor 21/1/13

Well I suppose there might be an indirect link. I think 1000 feet in the SW gives about the same winter temps as a few hundred feet in the Midlands, and my altitude of ~0 feet here in N Suffolk. Though Haytor will in general be much wetter!! But if the wind is from the west, Haytor is colder due to the altitude, whilst if the wind is from the east, Suffolk is colder, and we get first option on the snow if the air mass is cold enough.

If it is the case that SSW induces easterly winds, then we would stand to benefit more than Haytor.


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"Brac" wrote in message
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Well I suppose there might be an indirect link. I think 1000 feet in the SW
gives about the same winter temps as a few hundred feet in the Midlands, and
my altitude of ~0 feet here in N Suffolk. Though Haytor will in general be
much wetter!! But if the wind is from the west, Haytor is colder due to the
altitude, whilst if the wind is from the east, Suffolk is colder, and we get
first option on the snow if the air mass is cold enough.

If it is the case that SSW induces easterly winds, then we would stand to
benefit more than Haytor.
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Interesting analysis, it is certainly the case that in polar maritime
NW'lies we can get a fair bit of snow. Easterlies are drier of course. Wind
keeps night temperatures up here but day maxes are low generally both summer
and winter.
Of course if I wish to experience really harsher conditions I just stroll
140 metres up the hill and it is a different world, like yesterday, frozen
solid up on Hay Tor with drifts, softer down at my house.

Will
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Well I suppose there might be an indirect link. I think 1000 feet in the SW
gives about the same winter temps as a few hundred feet in the Midlands, and
my altitude of ~0 feet here in N Suffolk. Though Haytor will in general be
much wetter!! But if the wind is from the west, Haytor is colder due to the
altitude, whilst if the wind is from the east, Suffolk is colder, and we get
first option on the snow if the air mass is cold enough.

If it is the case that SSW induces easterly winds, then we would stand to
benefit more than Haytor.

Surely, on average, it's all down to basic text book climatology? The east
is more continental with colder winters and warmer summers and drier all
year but the wettest months relatively are in summer with convection
rainfall, as opposed to winter being the wettest in the south west's oceanic
regime.
Haytor, according to Will's site is Mean max 7.0C / Mean min 2.0C in
January. These values are slightly higher than inland sea level values in NE
England. Durham at 102m asl has 6.2C / 0.6C, so perhaps c. 7C/1C at msl.
Summers are correspondingly warmer by day but cooler by night in NE England.
Haytor 19.2C / 11.5C, Durham 19.8C / 10.7C
Will quotes 25/12 days snow falling / lying annually, again about inland sea
level here. Durham 23/18.
It's all down in those good old school text books, so I'll not write any
more (grandmother and eggs etc) probably not a lot to do with SSW, more the
SW/NE/E split!
Ken



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