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Piers Interview on BBC1 TV Sunday Politics Show - Warmists have no
answer Standard Met bending reluctantly to WeatherAction cold blasts by weekend. Prog VIDEO LINK http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...on_27_01_2013/ Short metion at start of Prog then main part at 51mins 20 sec or so. BBC and commentators failed totally to respond to Piers' point that there is no evidence in the real world for CO2 claims and instead flew to promoting their CO2 religion. "It's obvious why they refused to have me in the studio!" said Piers."They fled from the fact the whole CO2 story is fraud and put forward distortions and lies to shore up their delusional sect:- 1. Boris article was very clear he was writing about the last 5 years ie winters 08/09 to 12/13, yet BBC dishonestly said he was wrong because 07/08 was mild. His point was winters are getting colder. 2. The BBC claim handouts for roof etc home insulation is a gain for taxpayers is a LIE. These and other subsidies are paid for by all taxpayers through tax and energy bills. The insulation scheme is theft from those of the public who live in flats who cannot use the schemes and together with all other delusional green schemes (wind farms - paryer wheels, solar power etc). The green game is robbery of the public. 3. Matthew Pencharz's (Mayor's Environment Adviser) defence of Boris was pretty dithery and his defence of CO2 policy by the so-called Precautionary Principle was stupid because proper application of such means politicians should also listen to the dangers of the (maybe, they think) coming Mini Ice Age. There is no evidence for CO2/warming dangers and very strong evidence for dangerous world cooling and a coming mini-ice age. (Aka Little Ice Age). Amen." Our projected coming return of serious cold and blizzards and retreat of standard Met from current models and the preceding events on Sun and in stratosphere is getting really exciting. See http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/product...e/70mb9065.gif for increasing Stratospheric Temperatures and observer comments below for model watching. |
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Our projected coming return of serious cold and blizzards and retreat
of standard Met from current models and the preceding events on Sun and in stratosphere is getting really exciting. See http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/product...e/70mb9065.gif for increasing Stratospheric Temperatures and observer comments below for model watching. Hmm it's interesting how you now link to the 70hPa chart today, whereas you linked to the 30hPa chart in your post yesterday evening. Is this because the 30hPa chart is showing the same downturn in temperature as was evident on the 10hPa chart yesterday? SSC anyone? |
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On Monday, January 28, 2013 2:51:08 PM UTC, Freddie wrote:
Hmm it's interesting how you now link to the 70hPa chart today, whereas you linked to the 30hPa chart in your post yesterday evening. Is this because the 30hPa chart is showing the same downturn in temperature as was evident on the 10hPa chart yesterday? ========= And shortly no doubt we'll be seeing links to 100hPa as the cooling continues to propagate downwards. The number of people who have suddenly discovered SSW this winter is amusing. Stephen. |
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Stephen Davenport wrote:
On Monday, January 28, 2013 2:51:08 PM UTC, Freddie wrote: Hmm it's interesting how you now link to the 70hPa chart today, whereas you linked to the 30hPa chart in your post yesterday evening. Is this because the 30hPa chart is showing the same downturn in temperature as was evident on the 10hPa chart yesterday? ========= And shortly no doubt we'll be seeing links to 100hPa as the cooling continues to propagate downwards. The number of people who have suddenly discovered SSW this winter is amusing. Stephen. -------------------------- :-) |
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On Monday, 28 January 2013 14:58:36 UTC, Stephen Davenport wrote:
On Monday, January 28, 2013 2:51:08 PM UTC, Freddie wrote: Hmm it's interesting how you now link to the 70hPa chart today, whereas you linked to the 30hPa chart in your post yesterday evening. Is this because the 30hPa chart is showing the same downturn in temperature as was evident on the 10hPa chart yesterday? ========= And shortly no doubt we'll be seeing links to 100hPa as the cooling continues to propagate downwards. The number of people who have suddenly discovered SSW this winter is amusing. Stephen. Its the new buzz-word we never had weather before that was discovered; now it's even linked to the triple dip recession. Mind you I do like garlic. |
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On Jan 28, 2:58*pm, Stephen Davenport wrote:
On Monday, January 28, 2013 2:51:08 PM UTC, Freddie wrote: Hmm it's interesting how you now link to the 70hPa chart today, whereas you linked to the 30hPa chart in your post yesterday evening. *Is this because the 30hPa chart is showing the same downturn in temperature as was evident on the 10hPa chart yesterday? ========= And shortly no doubt we'll be seeing links to 100hPa as the cooling continues to propagate downwards. The number of people who have suddenly discovered SSW this winter is amusing. Stephen. Not 'arf it is, and not just confined to this group, which has a regrettable tendency to be the victims of fashion. At one time it was PVA (positive vorticity advection) but no-one mentions that now. It's so-ooo 2008. Next up, within a few months, CAPE, the answer to everything, but not what caused the trials and tribulations of Boscastle, ISTR. I still get the feeling Jim Cannon is satirising the organisation he purports to support, not to say worship. Either way, you can't take him seriously. I wonder if he realises this. Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey. |
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On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:55:31 AM UTC, Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Jan 28, 2:58*pm, Stephen Davenport wrote: On Monday, January 28, 2013 2:51:08 PM UTC, Freddie wrote: Hmm it's interesting how you now link to the 70hPa chart today, whereas you linked to the 30hPa chart in your post yesterday evening. *Is this because the 30hPa chart is showing the same downturn in temperature as was evident on the 10hPa chart yesterday? ========= And shortly no doubt we'll be seeing links to 100hPa as the cooling continues to propagate downwards. The number of people who have suddenly discovered SSW this winter is amusing. Stephen. Not 'arf it is, and not just confined to this group, which has a regrettable tendency to be the victims of fashion. At one time it was PVA (positive vorticity advection) but no-one mentions that now. It's so-ooo 2008. Next up, within a few months, CAPE, the answer to everything, but not what caused the trials and tribulations of Boscastle, ISTR. I still get the feeling Jim Cannon is satirising the organisation he purports to support, not to say worship. Either way, you can't take him seriously. I wonder if he realises this. Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey. Of course he is. It's a welcome diversion. |
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On 29/01/2013 00:55, Tudor Hughes wrote:
I still get the feeling Jim Cannon is satirising the organisation he purports to support, not to say worship. Either way, you can't take him seriously. I wonder if he realises this. Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey. I thought that it was sublime parody at first too, but now I am not so sure. Their main website rants away in much the same fashion. His charlatan worship is highly amusing. And at least he doesn't morph so kill files are effective against the dross. But for the moment it is more fun to poke him with a sharp stick from time to time. -- Regards, Martin Brown |
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On Tuesday, 29 January 2013 08:55:58 UTC, Martin Brown wrote:
Their main website rants away in much the same fashion. Herein lies part of the problem. If Piers is on to something (and the Dennis Wheeler paper, although being in a relatively limited period with some - as far as I'm aware - relatively straightforward statistics - showed a small level of skill) he could go about his daily business with so much more integrity. Simply taking the opposing stance to everything the Met Office says and coming out with wild proclamations surely isn't brilliant PR, is it? His Mad Scientist look doesn't help, either! But for the moment it is more fun to poke him with a sharp stick from time to time. Quite. I quite like having him here, actually... Richard |
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![]() "Martin Brown" wrote in message ... On 29/01/2013 00:55, Tudor Hughes wrote: I still get the feeling Jim Cannon is satirising the organisation he purports to support, not to say worship. Either way, you can't take him seriously. I wonder if he realises this. Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey. I thought that it was sublime parody at first too, but now I am not so sure. Their main website rants away in much the same fashion. His charlatan worship is highly amusing. And at least he doesn't morph so kill files are effective against the dross. But for the moment it is more fun to poke him with a sharp stick from time to time. I had him killfiled at fist, until I saw him quoted and realised just how funny he is! -- Col Bolton, Lancashire 160m asl |
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