On 06/02/13 06:29, Graham P Davis wrote:
On Tue, 05 Feb 2013 23:55:10 +0000
Dave wrote:

...... that hardly justifies the dire warnings being bandied about
at the
moment,mind Piers has decamped to the Caingorms I hear.....

RonB
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It's not actually the Met Office that's been banding about dire
warnings though is it Ron. They seem to be getting it right
regionally and have only said rain, sleet and wet snow for most
except in parts of the North where the snow has been..
Still I got enough flakes earlier this evening for it to be a "snow
falling day" :-)
Dvae

The warnings aren't the problem; yet again it's the presenters going
overboard about it being "bitterly cold." Yes, it's windy but combining
that with temperatures barely below average doesn't warrant the use of
such extreme terminology.


Ah yes I see what you mean there, they were talking about that yesterday
evening on the TV forecast when the forecast maxes were in the 4-6C
range. Below-average, but not bitterly cold. Those temperatures do seem
quite mild considering it is supposed to be a screaming northerly.

"Graham P Davis" wrote in message
-jade...
On Tue, 05 Feb 2013 23:55:10 +0000
Dave Cornwell wrote:

...... that hardly justifies the dire warnings being bandied about
at the
moment,mind Piers has decamped to the Caingorms I hear.....

RonB
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It's not actually the Met Office that's been banding about dire
warnings though is it Ron. They seem to be getting it right
regionally and have only said rain, sleet and wet snow for most
except in parts of the North where the snow has been..
Still I got enough flakes earlier this evening for it to be a "snow
falling day" :-)
Dvae

The warnings aren't the problem; yet again it's the presenters going
overboard about it being "bitterly cold." Yes, it's windy but combining
that with temperatures barely below average doesn't warrant the use of
such extreme terminology.

Agreed. I heard a forecast on local SW Spotlight on Monday evening and max.
temperatures were predicted to be 5 or 6C and that was described as
"bitterly cold" FHS. I went out yesterday in low drifting snow, 0C to +1C
and 20 knots and did it feel bitterly cold all wrapped up in my walking
clothes? - no, but to some that would I guess. Some presenters need to get
out and about more. Then they may realise that 5 or 6C even with a fresh
wind is not bitter.

Will
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Eskimo Will wrote:
I went out yesterday in low drifting snow, 0C to
+1C and 20 knots and did it feel bitterly cold all wrapped up in my
walking clothes? - no, but to some that would I guess.

Will
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To almost everybody I think that would justify being described as
bitterly cold! The problem is that most places where the forecast was
being described for there wasn't drifting snow and it was 6C.
Dave

On 06/02/13 09:11, Eskimo Will wrote:

"Graham P Davis" wrote in message
-jade...
On Tue, 05 Feb 2013 23:55:10 +0000
Dave Cornwell wrote:

...... that hardly justifies the dire warnings being bandied about
at the
moment,mind Piers has decamped to the Caingorms I hear.....

RonB
--------------------------------------------
It's not actually the Met Office that's been banding about dire
warnings though is it Ron. They seem to be getting it right
regionally and have only said rain, sleet and wet snow for most
except in parts of the North where the snow has been..
Still I got enough flakes earlier this evening for it to be a "snow
falling day" :-)
Dvae

The warnings aren't the problem; yet again it's the presenters going
overboard about it being "bitterly cold." Yes, it's windy but combining
that with temperatures barely below average doesn't warrant the use of
such extreme terminology.

Agreed. I heard a forecast on local SW Spotlight on Monday evening and
max. temperatures were predicted to be 5 or 6C and that was described as
"bitterly cold" FHS. I went out yesterday in low drifting snow, 0C to
+1C and 20 knots and did it feel bitterly cold all wrapped up in my
walking clothes? - no, but to some that would I guess. Some presenters
need to get out and about more. Then they may realise that 5 or 6C even
with a fresh wind is not bitter.

Will

But surely it would have to be bitterly cold for you to be all wrapped
up in the first place, given you are normally very cold-hardy?

"Adam Lea" wrote in message
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On 06/02/13 09:11, Eskimo Will wrote:

"Graham P Davis" wrote in message
-jade...
On Tue, 05 Feb 2013 23:55:10 +0000
Dave Cornwell wrote:

...... that hardly justifies the dire warnings being bandied about
at the
moment,mind Piers has decamped to the Caingorms I hear.....

RonB
--------------------------------------------
It's not actually the Met Office that's been banding about dire
warnings though is it Ron. They seem to be getting it right
regionally and have only said rain, sleet and wet snow for most
except in parts of the North where the snow has been..
Still I got enough flakes earlier this evening for it to be a "snow
falling day" :-)
Dvae

The warnings aren't the problem; yet again it's the presenters going
overboard about it being "bitterly cold." Yes, it's windy but combining
that with temperatures barely below average doesn't warrant the use of
such extreme terminology.

Agreed. I heard a forecast on local SW Spotlight on Monday evening and
max. temperatures were predicted to be 5 or 6C and that was described as
"bitterly cold" FHS. I went out yesterday in low drifting snow, 0C to
+1C and 20 knots and did it feel bitterly cold all wrapped up in my
walking clothes? - no, but to some that would I guess. Some presenters
need to get out and about more. Then they may realise that 5 or 6C even
with a fresh wind is not bitter.

Will

But surely it would have to be bitterly cold for you to be all wrapped up
in the first place, given you are normally very cold-hardy?

Cold yes, but not bitter.
Bitter (for me) would be well below freezing. 0 to +1C even with a fresh
wind is certainly parky but not bitter.
Bitter is when the wind chill really stings and ice forms on your balaclava.
On Tuesday my cheeks felt a little cold but that was all, snug and cosy in
my clothes and enjoying the snow while it lasted.

Will
--
http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
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On Wednesday, February 6, 2013 6:29:27 AM UTC, Graham P Davis wrote:
On Tue, 05 Feb 2013 23:55:10 +0000

Dave Cornwell wrote:



...... that hardly justifies the dire warnings being bandied about

at the

moment,mind Piers has decamped to the Caingorms I hear.....



RonB

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It's not actually the Met Office that's been banding about dire

warnings though is it Ron. They seem to be getting it right

regionally and have only said rain, sleet and wet snow for most

except in parts of the North where the snow has been..

Still I got enough flakes earlier this evening for it to be a "snow

falling day" :-)

Dvae



The warnings aren't the problem; yet again it's the presenters going

overboard about it being "bitterly cold." Yes, it's windy but combining

that with temperatures barely below average doesn't warrant the use of

such extreme terminology.



I presume that the people who issue these descriptions of how cold it may be, are themselves sat in shirtsleeves, in an air conditioned and centrally heated room where (in my experience due to persistent moaning about 'draughts') the ambient temperature is kept in the region of 24C.

When they venture outside, in the dash to their air conditioned cars, it probably does feel "bitterly cold" in the wind.

I have just pruned my holly tree, and in the sunshine with the outside thermometer reading +7C, it felt quite pleasant.