On Saturday, 23 February 2013 10:48:08 UTC, Freddie wrote:
So who are those warnings for?

See John Hall's earlier post. You're best off asking the NHS that question,

rather than the MO.

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Freddie

Bayston Hill

Shropshire

102m AMSL

http://www.hosiene.co.uk/weather/

https://twitter.com/#!/BaystonHillWx for hourly reports

I was trying to leave this alone. Okay John and Freddie you both seem to be saying that UKMO have no choice in putting out the cold weather warnings? But I'm not talking about the the NHS ones I'm talking about the old Red , Orange, Green and Yellow. System that today is Yellow but you are saying that the NHS in conjunction with UKMO create the Orange cold alert warning. Okay I get that. All I'm saying is thos charming civilised liberal scandanavians apparently leave their babies out in such weather that would warrant a red if ukmo and the NHS had their way.

You have to laugh if you repeatedly left your baby out in a pram in the UK for extended periods in zero to sub zero temps; your child would be snatched by social services and placed in the warmth and safety of a care home

On Saturday, 23 February 2013 11:09:51 UTC, wrote:
"Freddie" wrote in message

...

So who are those warnings for?

See John Hall's earlier post. You're best off asking the NHS that

question, rather than the MO.



Ah but it is a real good earner for the MetO. Health is big business not

just the warnings you see but private contracts too and MetO sales and

business staff are *very* enthusiastic as it brings the dosh in regardless

of what other people think of it. It's all about money nowadays in the MetO.



Will

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Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)

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I know this gets political and not purely weather but I find it very it very distasteful that UKMO takes money to spin up the caring NHS image when clearly when it comes to the elderly with no one to speak up for them ; they don't.

We know see many terrible tales of callous neglect now being exposed publicly in a great hand wringing and hand (no pun Will I'm sure your hygiene isn't in doubt)washing and that's besides the awful MRSA rates. I may have mentioned this before but in 1996 I worked on a medical ward (Strokes, diabetic wound care and other nasty things) for 18 days, The ward was Nayman at Guys hospital, the first impression when I arrived was the smell of faeces and blue bottles flying merrily around in November!. However much of our daily training sessions were about meeting cultural and religious needs with actual medical training in care and infection control taking a poor backseat. I did point out that if a patient wanted vespers than surly a church was the best place? No no and no, my attitude was anti people s religious needs. Yet the wards sluice system and sterilisation unit never worked the whole time I was there with bed pans and the like being soaked in dustbins filled with disinfectant. Of course since then the NHS infection rates soared and the patient care grew ever worse and most relatives when enquiring about loved ones would be preached to about the new buzz word confidentially or told they needed to talk to a doctor and of course phoning award to find out how someone was, was nigh impossible. I have to say many people have received fantastic treatment with the NHS but when the demands are so great and they are driven by politically correct targets then something had to give and it seems the lonely elderly took the brunt. That is why I get so irritated seeing junk on UKMO like COPCD alerts when the stark reality is hospitals for the elderly are a one way ticket.

You know year ago before all this PC smoke screen tripe people would constantly ask as to their nieghbours health and the like and when someone had gone into hospital the response usually was 'best place for them' now people say NO get them out quick!!!!!
So UKMO get public money from the NHS to help promote the NHS whilst all these scandalous stuff is still coming to light? Well that kind of makes me feel my rantings were justified after all.

"Lawrence13" wrote in message
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On Saturday, 23 February 2013 11:09:51 UTC,
wrote:
"Freddie" wrote in message

snip

Hi Lawrence, if its any consolation, I point blank refused to have anything
to do with health work when I was at UKMO. Led to a few arguments but I
stood my ground. Did sod all for my career prospects of course, but I'd gone
past caring about that.

Will
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http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
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On Sat, 23 Feb 2013 03:17:46 -0800 (PST), Lawrence13
wrote:
I was trying to leave this alone.
Hahaha

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Freddie
Bayston Hill
Shropshire
102m AMSL
http://www.hosiene.co.uk/weather/
https://twitter.com/#!/BaystonHillWx for hourly reports

In article ,
Eskimo Will writes:

"Freddie" wrote in message news:kga6p9$
...
So who are those warnings for?
See John Hall's earlier post. You're best off asking the NHS that
question, rather than the MO.

Ah but it is a real good earner for the MetO. Health is big business
not just the warnings you see but private contracts too and MetO
sales and business staff are *very* enthusiastic as it brings the dosh
in regardless of what other people think of it. It's all about money
nowadays in the MetO.

I don't have any problem with the MetO doing that in the case of the
NHS. After all, I don't have to read the warnings. And I imagine that,
were the MetO to refuse the NHS, they might be forcibly reminded by
central government that they are a government agency, and that there are
certain obligations that they are expected to fulfil as part of that
status if they want to be allowed to retain a measure of independence.
--
John Hall

"Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong."
Oscar Wilde

In article ,
Lawrence13 writes:
big snip
So UKMO get public money from the NHS to help promote the NHS

Whilst I agree that recent scandals have shown that there are clearly
some very serious things wrong with the NHS, I don't see how these cold
weather warnings can be described as promoting the NHS. Whether the NHS
paying for these warnings is an effective use of NHS funds is another
matter.
--
John Hall

"Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong."
Oscar Wilde

On 23/02/13 11:09, Eskimo Will wrote:

"Freddie" wrote in message
...
So who are those warnings for?
See John Hall's earlier post. You're best off asking the NHS that
question, rather than the MO.

Ah but it is a real good earner for the MetO. Health is big business not
just the warnings you see but private contracts too and MetO sales and
business staff are *very* enthusiastic as it brings the dosh in
regardless of what other people think of it. It's all about money
nowadays in the MetO.

Will


In a world where money is getting ever harder to come by, yet is still
as essential as ever, can you blame them?

On 23/02/13 19:18, John Hall wrote:
In ,
Eskimo writes:

wrote in message news:kga6p9$
...
So who are those warnings for?
See John Hall's earlier post. You're best off asking the NHS that
question, rather than the MO.

Ah but it is a real good earner for the MetO. Health is big business
not just the warnings you see but private contracts too and MetO
sales and business staff are *very* enthusiastic as it brings the dosh
in regardless of what other people think of it. It's all about money
nowadays in the MetO.

I don't have any problem with the MetO doing that in the case of the
NHS. After all, I don't have to read the warnings. And I imagine that,
were the MetO to refuse the NHS, they might be forcibly reminded by
central government that they are a government agency, and that there are
certain obligations that they are expected to fulfil as part of that
status if they want to be allowed to retain a measure of independence.

Agreed. I really don't understand why some people get so hot and
bothered about the warnings. They are just advisory, for information,
they are not an order. If they are not useful to you then ignore them,
but that then doesn't mean they won't be useful to anyone else.

On Saturday, 23 February 2013 23:35:56 UTC, Adam Lea wrote:
On 23/02/13 19:18, John Hall wrote:

In ,

Eskimo writes:



wrote in message news:kga6p9$

...

So who are those warnings for?

See John Hall's earlier post. You're best off asking the NHS that

question, rather than the MO.



Ah but it is a real good earner for the MetO. Health is big business

not just the warnings you see but private contracts too and MetO

sales and business staff are *very* enthusiastic as it brings the dosh

in regardless of what other people think of it. It's all about money

nowadays in the MetO.



I don't have any problem with the MetO doing that in the case of the

NHS. After all, I don't have to read the warnings. And I imagine that,

were the MetO to refuse the NHS, they might be forcibly reminded by

central government that they are a government agency, and that there are

certain obligations that they are expected to fulfil as part of that

status if they want to be allowed to retain a measure of independence.



Agreed. I really don't understand why some people get so hot and

bothered about the warnings. They are just advisory, for information,

they are not an order. If they are not useful to you then ignore them,

but that then doesn't mean they won't be useful to anyone else.

Because for the majority of areas they are not true. I can't help it, must be my upringing but I really hate fibs.

On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 15:24:21 -0800 (PST), Lawrence13
wrote:
They are just advisory, for information,
they are not an order. If they are not useful to you then ignore
them

Because for the majority of areas they are not true. I can't help
it, must be my upringing but I really hate fibs.
Read the criteria for the warnings (not defined by the Meto by the
way) and you will see that they are being met - hence the Meto has
no choice but to issue the warning.

Like John said - if they're not useful to you, ignore them.

--
Freddie
Bayston Hill
Shropshire
102m AMSL
http://www.hosiene.co.uk/weather/
https://twitter.com/#!/BaystonHillWx for hourly reports