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Or did I eat something dodgy for lunch? Kind of backed up by the assemblies, perhaps not as extreme as the model.

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"Alan (North West Surrey)" wrote in message
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Or did I eat something dodgy for lunch? Kind of backed up by the
assemblies, perhaps not as extreme as the model.


Alan, the charts next week are truly amazing. The polar jet is running well
south into North Africa the Atlantic is coming well and truly blocked with
deep cold becoming established over a lot of Europe. If this comes to
fruition, and as you say ensembles are pretty solid now for the onset at
least, this could well be a really special event. The downside for many is
that Spring could be set back for weeks, especially in northern Europe.

Excited cheers,
Will
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"Will Hand" wrote in message
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"Alan (North West Surrey)" wrote in message
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Or did I eat something dodgy for lunch? Kind of backed up by the
assemblies, perhaps not as extreme as the model.


Alan, the charts next week are truly amazing. The polar jet is running
well south into North Africa the Atlantic is coming well and truly blocked
with deep cold becoming established over a lot of Europe. If this comes to
fruition, and as you say ensembles are pretty solid now for the onset at
least, this could well be a really special event. The downside for many is
that Spring could be set back for weeks, especially in northern Europe.

Excited cheers,


They're getting excited over on TWO, that's for sure!

Not sure I really share that excitement, I would if I thought it was
going to be a notable (for March)event here, but I don't think the
synoptics are right for that.
It's not even as if this winter has been 'snow-starved' here, far from it
so I'm not desperately looking for any 'last throw of the dice' winter
snow action.
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Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl


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"Col" wrote in message
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"Will Hand" wrote in message
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"Alan (North West Surrey)" wrote in message
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Or did I eat something dodgy for lunch? Kind of backed up by the
assemblies, perhaps not as extreme as the model.


Alan, the charts next week are truly amazing. The polar jet is running
well south into North Africa the Atlantic is coming well and truly
blocked with deep cold becoming established over a lot of Europe. If this
comes to fruition, and as you say ensembles are pretty solid now for the
onset at least, this could well be a really special event. The downside
for many is that Spring could be set back for weeks, especially in
northern Europe.

Excited cheers,


They're getting excited over on TWO, that's for sure!

Not sure I really share that excitement, I would if I thought it was
going to be a notable (for March)event here, but I don't think the
synoptics are right for that.
It's not even as if this winter has been 'snow-starved' here, far from it
so I'm not desperately looking for any 'last throw of the dice' winter
snow action.


True we have had some good snow this winter but this spell is shaping up to
be a long and very cold one, perhaps even the coldest of the winter. Add in
greater insolation at this time of year and we could see some cracking
convection in the deep cold air, even west of the Pennines, Col. I also
fancy the speed of onset will take many by surprise too. (Not usw
afficionados of course :-) ).
So, yes I'm looking forward to it and when it is over then we can get on
with the business of Spring and the main start of the growing season in
April (at least that is when it is up here).

Will
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Eskimo Will wrote:
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They're getting excited over on TWO, that's for sure!

Not sure I really share that excitement, I would if I thought it was
going to be a notable (for March)event here, but I don't think the
synoptics are right for that.
It's not even as if this winter has been 'snow-starved' here, far
from it so I'm not desperately looking for any 'last throw of the
dice' winter snow action.


True we have had some good snow this winter but this spell is shaping
up to be a long and very cold one, perhaps even the coldest of the
winter. Add in greater insolation at this time of year and we could
see some cracking convection in the deep cold air, even west of the
Pennines, Col. I also fancy the speed of onset will take many by
surprise too. (Not usw afficionados of course :-) ).
So, yes I'm looking forward to it and when it is over then we can get
on with the business of Spring and the main start of the growing
season in April (at least that is when it is up here).


I've seen some 850mb plots and they just drop off the edge of
a cliff in 4/5 days' time so the onset of the cold looks likely to be
sudden. I have warned people at work about this and they seemed
surprised
I take your point about insolation and deep, cold air but I'm always
sceptical about snow here in showery E/NE situations, but of course
March is a whole different ball game to winter proper.
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Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl




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On Wednesday, 6 March 2013 20:12:03 UTC, Col wrote:
Eskimo Will wrote:

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They're getting excited over on TWO, that's for sure!




Not sure I really share that excitement, I would if I thought it was


going to be a notable (for March)event here, but I don't think the


synoptics are right for that.


It's not even as if this winter has been 'snow-starved' here, far


from it so I'm not desperately looking for any 'last throw of the


dice' winter snow action.




True we have had some good snow this winter but this spell is shaping


up to be a long and very cold one, perhaps even the coldest of the


winter. Add in greater insolation at this time of year and we could


see some cracking convection in the deep cold air, even west of the


Pennines, Col. I also fancy the speed of onset will take many by


surprise too. (Not usw afficionados of course :-) ).


So, yes I'm looking forward to it and when it is over then we can get


on with the business of Spring and the main start of the growing


season in April (at least that is when it is up here).




I've seen some 850mb plots and they just drop off the edge of

a cliff in 4/5 days' time so the onset of the cold looks likely to be

sudden. I have warned people at work about this and they seemed

surprised

I take your point about insolation and deep, cold air but I'm always

sceptical about snow here in showery E/NE situations, but of course

March is a whole different ball game to winter proper.

--

Col



Bolton, Lancashire

160m asl


You've started telling people ? Oh no thtat's torn it. It's the worse thing you can do as you always finish up with eggy yellow on yer face.
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On Wed, 6 Mar 2013 at 18:49:47, Col wrote in
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They're getting excited over on TWO, that's for sure!

Not sure I really share that excitement, I would if I thought it was
going to be a notable (for March)event here, but I don't think the
synoptics are right for that.
It's not even as if this winter has been 'snow-starved' here, far from it
so I'm not desperately looking for any 'last throw of the dice' winter
snow action.


Send it down here, then.

It wouldn't be he first time the Cheltenham Gold Cup Festival has
suffered a snowy interlude...
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