On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 17:13:18 +0100, Kate Brown
wrote:
Right there Will. I kept hearing of double figures in temps but
it's a
dull, miserable chilly day here in SE London. I was hoping to cut
the
grass.




Us too But we have had double figure max temps here on the
other
side of the Ravensbourne for a week now (ex Tuesday, which just
dipped
below 10C), and max today was 12.4C at 13:52. Is it colder up there
on
the heights of Sydenham?

Patience grasshopper - your time will come tomorrow. Today the warmer
air is still moving towards you.

--
Freddie
Bayston Hill
Shropshire
102m AMSL
http://www.hosiene.co.uk/weather/
https://twitter.com/#!/BaystonHillWx for hourly reports

On Saturday, 13 April 2013 17:13:18 UTC+1, Kate Brown wrote:
On Sat, 13 Apr 2013, Lawrence13 wrote

On Thursday, 4 April 2013 08:48:32 UTC+1, wrote:

All over media weather forecasts I keep hearing about "relief" on the way



with milder air.



OK we will certainly lose the easterly but from the Midlands northwards is



it really going to get much milder after we lose the sun and still stay in



relatively deep cold air? I think not. I also heard today on R4 the



presenter saying she is "looking forward" to the milder weather next week.



What she does not realise is that in the south at least there is the



potential for a lot of wind and rain and for the north more snow. I know



this easterly is far too cold for many because of the low wet-bulb



temperatures, but at least it is mainly bone dry and one can get out and do



things, unless you have deep snow cover which the majority don't have. The



one consolation for wet is that plant growth will start in eaernest and it



won't rain all the time.



I guess what a lot of people really want is a summery Azores high and we



ain't going to get that, it is going to be a long process of warming up with



the jet still way far south. Keep the expectation down, deep cold air will



never be far away in the next two weeks.







Will



--



http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm



Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)



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Right there Will. I kept hearing of double figures in temps but it's a

dull, miserable chilly day here in SE London. I was hoping to cut the

grass.



Us too But we have had double figure max temps here on the other

side of the Ravensbourne for a week now (ex Tuesday, which just dipped

below 10C), and max today was 12.4C at 13:52. Is it colder up there on

the heights of Sydenham?





--

Kate B



PS nospam means nospam. But umra at cockaigne dot org dot uk will get through!

Yes but I do get the Foehn effect from the pounds shops.

On Sat, 13 Apr 2013, Lawrence13 wrote
On Saturday, 13 April 2013 17:13:18 UTC+1, Kate Brown wrote:
On Sat, 13 Apr 2013, Lawrence13 wrote

On Thursday, 4 April 2013 08:48:32 UTC+1, wrote:

All over media weather forecasts I keep hearing about "relief" on the way



with milder air.



OK we will certainly lose the easterly but from the Midlands northwards is



it really going to get much milder after we lose the sun and still stay in



relatively deep cold air? I think not. I also heard today on R4 the



presenter saying she is "looking forward" to the milder weather next week.



What she does not realise is that in the south at least there is the



potential for a lot of wind and rain and for the north more snow. I know



this easterly is far too cold for many because of the low wet-bulb



temperatures, but at least it is mainly bone dry and one can get
and do



things, unless you have deep snow cover which the majority don't have. The



one consolation for wet is that plant growth will start in eaernest and it



won't rain all the time.



I guess what a lot of people really want is a summery Azores high and we



ain't going to get that, it is going to be a long process of
warming up with



the jet still way far south. Keep the expectation down, deep cold air will



never be far away in the next two weeks.







Will



--



http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm



Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)



---------------------------------------------



Right there Will. I kept hearing of double figures in temps but it's a

dull, miserable chilly day here in SE London. I was hoping to cut the

grass.



Us too But we have had double figure max temps here on the other

side of the Ravensbourne for a week now (ex Tuesday, which just dipped

below 10C), and max today was 12.4C at 13:52. Is it colder up there on

the heights of Sydenham?





--

Kate B



PS nospam means nospam. But umra at cockaigne dot org dot uk will get
through!

Yes but I do get the Foehn effect from the pounds shops.

Lawrence, you need to untick that box in Google Groups that also sends
this as email....

--
Kate B

PS nospam means nospam. But umra at cockaigne dot org dot uk will get through!

On Saturday, 13 April 2013 22:37:09 UTC+1, Kate Brown wrote:
On Sat, 13 Apr 2013, Lawrence13 wrote

On Saturday, 13 April 2013 17:13:18 UTC+1, Kate Brown wrote:

On Sat, 13 Apr 2013, Lawrence13 wrote



On Thursday, 4 April 2013 08:48:32 UTC+1, wrote:



All over media weather forecasts I keep hearing about "relief" on the way







with milder air.







OK we will certainly lose the easterly but from the Midlands northwards is







it really going to get much milder after we lose the sun and still stay in







relatively deep cold air? I think not. I also heard today on R4 the







presenter saying she is "looking forward" to the milder weather next week.







What she does not realise is that in the south at least there is the







potential for a lot of wind and rain and for the north more snow. I know







this easterly is far too cold for many because of the low wet-bulb







temperatures, but at least it is mainly bone dry and one can get

and do







things, unless you have deep snow cover which the majority don't have. The







one consolation for wet is that plant growth will start in eaernest and it







won't rain all the time.







I guess what a lot of people really want is a summery Azores high and we







ain't going to get that, it is going to be a long process of

warming up with







the jet still way far south. Keep the expectation down, deep cold air will







never be far away in the next two weeks.















Will







--







http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm







Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)







---------------------------------------------







Right there Will. I kept hearing of double figures in temps but it's a



dull, miserable chilly day here in SE London. I was hoping to cut the



grass.







Us too But we have had double figure max temps here on the other



side of the Ravensbourne for a week now (ex Tuesday, which just dipped



below 10C), and max today was 12.4C at 13:52. Is it colder up there on



the heights of Sydenham?











--



Kate B







PS nospam means nospam. But umra at cockaigne dot org dot uk will get

through!



Yes but I do get the Foehn effect from the pounds shops.



Lawrence, you need to untick that box in Google Groups that also sends

this as email....



--

Kate B



PS nospam means nospam. But umra at cockaigne dot org dot uk will get through!

No problem Kate but ever since I moved for OE to google groups I haven't touched any settings and just presumed things were okay. Where is that setting?

On Thursday, April 4, 2013 8:48:32 AM UTC+1, wrote:
All over media weather forecasts I keep hearing about "relief" on the way

with milder air.

OK we will certainly lose the easterly but from the Midlands northwards is

it really going to get much milder after we lose the sun and still stay in

relatively deep cold air? I think not. I also heard today on R4 the

presenter saying she is "looking forward" to the milder weather next week..

What she does not realise is that in the south at least there is the

potential for a lot of wind and rain and for the north more snow. I know

this easterly is far too cold for many because of the low wet-bulb

temperatures, but at least it is mainly bone dry and one can get out and do

things, unless you have deep snow cover which the majority don't have. The

one consolation for wet is that plant growth will start in eaernest and it

won't rain all the time.

I guess what a lot of people really want is a summery Azores high and we

ain't going to get that, it is going to be a long process of warming up with

the jet still way far south. Keep the expectation down, deep cold air will

never be far away in the next two weeks.



Will

--

http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm

Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)

---------------------------------------------

The jet isn't "way too far south", but I think that's escaped someone's notice............

As soon as things don't change the way Will indicates they are going to, have you noticed how he tries to forget what he says, never returning to it if it pans out wrong and instead tells us that we're about to go "straight into summer" next weekend. Then he calls other, far more experienced and respected meteorologists for saying "silly things".

The rosicrucians would be proud of you Will. *))

The jet isn't "way too far south", but I think that's escaped someone's
notice............

It is much further south than climatology across the vast majority of the
Atlantic at this moment in time.
--
Freddie
Bayston Hill
Shropshire
102m AMSL
http://www.hosiene.co.uk/weather/
https://twitter.com/#!/BaystonHillWx for hourly reports

On 2013-04-13 14:00:34 +0000, Lawrence13 said:

Right there Will. I kept hearing of double figures in temps but it's a
dull, miserable chilly day here in SE London. I was hoping to cut the
grass.

I'm just happy to be able to go outside and not feel cold when the wind
blows at the moment. I have become so used to the biting winds of late
that this new direction feels like I'm on the Canary Islands in
comparison!

Simon

When Will created this thread on 4th April the Jet was very far south heading in to the straights of Gibraltar, it has since buckled with a brief ridge over the UK (14 April, 10 days later) giving unsettled weather for most of the UK & some warmer sunny spells in the SE of England (if they are lucky).

Over the next few days the Jet flattens again, but pointing more or less straight at the UK, again this will give unsettled weather for most of the UK, though the SE way fair a little better.

Expectations by some were for fine, warm & settled Spring weather, by way of the Jet being to the North of the UK for a prolonged period (longer than just a weekend) THAT HASN'T HAPPENED NOR IS IT FORECAST TO IN THE NEXT 5 DAYS.

I hope that helps explain it Dawlish.

On Sunday, April 14, 2013 10:11:16 AM UTC+1, Teignmouth wrote:
When Will created this thread on 4th April the Jet was very far south heading in to the straights of Gibraltar, it has since buckled with a brief ridge over the UK (14 April, 10 days later) giving unsettled weather for most of the UK & some warmer sunny spells in the SE of England (if they are lucky).



Over the next few days the Jet flattens again, but pointing more or less straight at the UK, again this will give unsettled weather for most of the UK, though the SE way fair a little better.



Expectations by some were for fine, warm & settled Spring weather, by way of the Jet being to the North of the UK for a prolonged period (longer than just a weekend) THAT HASN'T HAPPENED NOR IS IT FORECAST TO IN THE NEXT 5 DAYS.



I hope that helps explain it Dawlish.

And who was expecting "fine, warm & settled Spring weather"? Name sonmeone.

There's a bit of a strawman, don't you think? Will deliberately constructed it and you've fallen for it. I know all about what has happened to the jet and I know all about what Will was talking about - i.e it staying well south of the UK. What has happened to it was exactly what the models were predicting; hence my forecast. It was also what Will was not **wanting** and there's the nub. It is certainly not "way too far south" - which is the implied prediction from our dear Haytor resident and the meaning there was; "way too far south of the UK". BTW; no-one, AFAIK has mentioned that the Jet was going to be to the North of the UK for a prolonged period. You've made that up, haven't you and shouted a bit to try to be heard better. Well done.

Not my fault that Will never returns to these hopecasts (and this one certainly was - a hope for continued cold which hasn't been realised) and leaves it to other sycophants to interpret them in hindsight, dear boy. Don't be taken in, would be my advice.

Hope that helps to explain it, in terms that don't involve shouting, oh anonymous one.

On Sat, 13 Apr 2013, Lawrence13 wrote
On Saturday, 13 April 2013 22:37:09 UTC+1, Kate Brown wrote:

snip dozens of empty and half-empty lines badly configured by Google
Groups

Lawrence, you need to untick that box in Google Groups that also sends

this as email....



--

Kate B



PS nospam means nospam. But umra at cockaigne dot org dot uk will get
through!

No problem Kate but ever since I moved for OE to google groups I
haven't touched any settings and just presumed things were okay. Where
is that setting?

I don't know, because I never use the blighter. But I do know that it
never snips (thus producing huge long strings of irrelevancies), mangles
posts (as it's mangled the one you sent), and unless you keep an eye on
it (because it alters settings without your permission), starts sending
copies of posts as emails to the poster you're replying to.

Which all means that any sensible matter in the post gets submerged
under miscellaneous crap....

PS High of 20.8 here this afternoon!
--
Kate B

PS nospam means nospam. But umra at cockaigne dot org dot uk will get through!