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There are some posts in this thread that I do not get to see because the
poster has been kill-filed with the 'forever' option.
However, I have been made aware of certain comments and I feel obliged to
set the record straight.

You should not attempt to use the word 'minuscule' until you have learned
how to spell it. I suggest a dictionary.

Thank you for reading (:

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On Monday, April 22, 2013 9:48:23 AM UTC+1, Buchan Meteo wrote:
There are some posts in this thread that I do not get to see because the

poster has been kill-filed with the 'forever' option.

However, I have been made aware of certain comments and I feel obliged to

set the record straight.



You should not attempt to use the word 'minuscule' until you have learned

how to spell it. I suggest a dictionary.



Thank you for reading (:



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Gianna

Peterhead, Scotland


Comments from behind a killfile! That really does take the biscuit! shakes head
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On 22/04/2013 09:48, Buchan Meteo wrote:
There are some posts in this thread that I do not get to see because the
poster has been kill-filed with the 'forever' option.
However, I have been made aware of certain comments and I feel obliged to
set the record straight.

You should not attempt to use the word 'minuscule' until you have learned
how to spell it. I suggest a dictionary.

Thank you for reading (:

At the risk of being a pedant (which is what I am), both variants are
acceptable nowadays (miniscule being used since C19th). This is
according to OED (and others) - but it suggests not using it formal
contexts. I would assume that uk.sc.weather isn't formal.....

HTH

Malcolm
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Metman2012 scrive:

On 22/04/2013 09:48, Buchan Meteo wrote:
There are some posts in this thread that I do not get to see because
the poster has been kill-filed with the 'forever' option. However, I
have been made aware of certain comments and I feel obliged to set the
record straight.

You should not attempt to use the word 'minuscule' until you have
learned how to spell it. I suggest a dictionary.

Thank you for reading (:

At the risk of being a pedant (which is what I am), both variants are
acceptable nowadays (miniscule being used since C19th). This is
according to OED (and others) - but it suggests not using it formal
contexts. I would assume that uk.sc.weather isn't formal.....

HTH

Malcolm


I have three versions of the OED. the Shorter (2 volume) Concise (1
volume) and Pocket.

None state the above. I no longer have access to the latest full 20+
volume version.

The Shorter OED lists the variant spelling without comment other than to
see the real spelling.
....
The Concise OED lists only the correct spelling and states:

The correct spelling is minuscule rather than miniscule. The latter is a
common error, which has arisen by analogy with other words beginning with
mini-, where the meaning is also 'very small'.
....
The Pocket OED lists only the correct spelling and states:

The correct spelling is minuscule with a u after the n.
....
Chambers, the other authoritative English dictionary lists the -i- as a
variant spelling of the correct spelling.
....

So, at the risk of being a pedant, I rest my case.


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On 23/04/2013 09:43, Buchan Meteo wrote:
Metman2012 scrive:

On 22/04/2013 09:48, Buchan Meteo wrote:
There are some posts in this thread that I do not get to see because
the poster has been kill-filed with the 'forever' option. However, I
have been made aware of certain comments and I feel obliged to set the
record straight.

You should not attempt to use the word 'minuscule' until you have
learned how to spell it. I suggest a dictionary.

Thank you for reading (:

At the risk of being a pedant (which is what I am), both variants are
acceptable nowadays (miniscule being used since C19th). This is
according to OED (and others) - but it suggests not using it formal
contexts. I would assume that uk.sc.weather isn't formal.....

HTH

Malcolm


I have three versions of the OED. the Shorter (2 volume) Concise (1
volume) and Pocket.

None state the above. I no longer have access to the latest full 20+
volume version.

The Shorter OED lists the variant spelling without comment other than to
see the real spelling.
...
The Concise OED lists only the correct spelling and states:

The correct spelling is minuscule rather than miniscule. The latter is a
common error, which has arisen by analogy with other words beginning with
mini-, where the meaning is also 'very small'.
...
The Pocket OED lists only the correct spelling and states:

The correct spelling is minuscule with a u after the n.
...
Chambers, the other authoritative English dictionary lists the -i- as a
variant spelling of the correct spelling.
...

So, at the risk of being a pedant, I rest my case.


Good there other pedants as well. I looked it up on the online OED.
However, I agree that minuscule is correct, but unfortunately for us
pedants, most (all?) dictionaries are now descriptive rather than
prescriptive and as the wrong spelling is gaining in use, they will
eventually stop calling it wrong. It's a bit like infer and imply, less
and fewer, disinterested and uninterested. Does Italian have the same
issues (I'm assuming you're Italian - if not then I humbly apologise)?


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Metman2012 scrive:

Good there other pedants as well. I looked it up on the online OED.


That there are (: I had access to that when at uni here.

However, I agree that minuscule is correct, but unfortunately for us
pedants, most (all?) dictionaries are now descriptive rather than
prescriptive and as the wrong spelling is gaining in use, they will
eventually stop calling it wrong. It's a bit like infer and imply, less
and fewer, disinterested and uninterested. Does Italian have the same
issues (I'm assuming you're Italian - if not then I humbly apologise)?


I am, in part at least, (opinions differ on which half is the good part)
so no need to apologise.
Italian does not have quite the same issues because the scale is
different. The largest dictionary (also on my shelf) is in one, rather
fat, volume ... not two or twenty.
English tends to have many words with the same meaning, and individual
words with many meanings. It is also much more absorbent of 'foreign'
phrases, especially American, which has become the leading world English
(sadly). There are a number of English words that have found their way
into Italian (eg computer) and that can be unhelpful as English has more
letters in its alphabet. An obvious example is my name which in Italian
begins with G and in Scottish, begins with J (a letter which does not
exist in Italian).

I am pedantic in any language but perhaps more in English as I write in
that language.

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Peterhead, Scotland

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On Tuesday, 23 April 2013 11:58:52 UTC+1, Buchan Meteo wrote:
Metman2012 scrive:



Good there other pedants as well. I looked it up on the online OED.




That there are (: I had access to that when at uni here.



However, I agree that minuscule is correct, but unfortunately for us


pedants, most (all?) dictionaries are now descriptive rather than


prescriptive and as the wrong spelling is gaining in use, they will


eventually stop calling it wrong. It's a bit like infer and imply, less


and fewer, disinterested and uninterested. Does Italian have the same


issues (I'm assuming you're Italian - if not then I humbly apologise)?




I am, in part at least, (opinions differ on which half is the good part)

so no need to apologise.

Italian does not have quite the same issues because the scale is

different. The largest dictionary (also on my shelf) is in one, rather

fat, volume ... not two or twenty.

English tends to have many words with the same meaning, and individual

words with many meanings. It is also much more absorbent of 'foreign'

phrases, especially American, which has become the leading world English

(sadly). There are a number of English words that have found their way

into Italian (eg computer) and that can be unhelpful as English has more

letters in its alphabet. An obvious example is my name which in Italian

begins with G and in Scottish, begins with J (a letter which does not

exist in Italian).



I am pedantic in any language but perhaps more in English as I write in

that language.



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Gianna

Peterhead, Scotland


Dear pedantic you're driving me frantic
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Lawrence13 scrive:

Dear pedantic you're driving me frantic


Oh come with me
To the great below
Under violent light
Blood-red rivers flow
We will sing and dance
While the curtain falls
And take our chance
When the siren calls
We live our dream
And dream of death
Until our final game
Takes away your breath

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On 24/04/2013 09:42, Buchan Meteo wrote:
Lawrence13 scrive:

Dear pedantic you're driving me frantic


Oh come with me
To the great below
Under violent light
Blood-red rivers flow
We will sing and dance
While the curtain falls
And take our chance
When the siren calls
We live our dream
And dream of death
Until our final game
Takes away your breath


http://anamedas.org.uk/fallen.htm

That's lovely...

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Wendy Tinley scrive:


That's lovely...


Thank you (:
A few years old now.


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Peterhead, Scotland



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