Wednesday 7th August 2013


Meteosat MSG satellite picture from Ferdinand Valk’s site at 12.00 UTC http://www.fvalk.com/images/Day_image/MSG-1200-EUR.jpg

Meteosat MSG-3 satellite picture from Bernard Burton’s site at 12.00 UTC http://www.woksat.info/etcvh07m/vh07-msg-1200-uk.html

NOAA 19 satellite picture from Bernard Burton’s site at 13.22 UTC http://www.woksat.info/etcvh07/vh07-1322-b-uk.html

Eumetsat Animation from the Norwegian Weather Service http://www.yr.no/satellitt/europa_animasjon.html


UK min. temps on Tuesday night http://tinyurl.com/bas2wpv

Mona (Anglesey) 7.0°C, Keswick 6.7°C, Capel Curig 6.1°C, Warcop and Leeming 5.9°C, Topcliffe 5.7°C, Copley 5.4°C, Spadeadam 5.2°C, Eskdalemuir 4.2°C, Shap and Redesdale 3.4°C.

St Catherine’s Point 14.2°C, Manston 14.3°C, Mumbles 14.5°C, St Mary’s (Scilly) and Heathrow 14.7°C, London St James’s Park 15.4°C..


UK max. temps on Wednesday http://tinyurl.com/b68do2b

Fair Isle 13.5°C, Kinloss and Lossiemouth 14.5°C, Loch Glascarnoch 14..7°C, Wick 14.8°C, Kirkwall and Aviemore 15.1°C, Aboyne 15.4°C.

Middle Wallop and Gravesend (Broadness) 22.6°C, Crosby 22.7°C, Charlwood 22.8°C, Yeovilton 22.9°C, Heathrow 23.1°C, Exeter Airport 23.3°C, Plymouth (Mountbatten) 23.4°C, Bournemouth (Hurn) 23.9°C, Thorney Island 24.1°C, Solent MRSC 25.1°C.

OGIMET summary http://tinyurl.com/lk4tr7s


Rainfall radar http://www.meteox.com/h.aspx?r=&soort=loop24uur&URL or http://www.raintoday.co.uk/

Rainfall totals in 24 hours ending 18.00 UTC on Wednesday http://tinyurl.com/ahsgjwh

Ballypatrick, Aultbea and Tiree 6 mm, Lusa (Skye), Tain Range and Kinloss 7 mm, Aberdeen (Dyce) 8 mm, Magilligan and Loch Glascarnoch 9 mm, Tulloch Bridge 11 mm, St Helier (Jersey) 13 mm, Sennybridge 37 mm.


Location of some UK stations http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/educatio...eather-data-uk


Colin Youngs
Brussels

The high temperature at Solent seems a bit suspect, & not for the 1st time!

Is it situated in a sheltered location?

On Wed, 7 Aug 2013 12:48:05 -0700 (PDT), Colin Youngs
wrote:
Wednesday 7th August 2013
Sennybridge 37 mm.

Did South Wales get some organised showers, then? I don't recall any
being forecast, although it is highly probable I could've missed
something...

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Castle Pulverbatch
Shropshire
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Op woensdag 7 augustus 2013 22:51:57 UTC+2 schreef Freddie:

On Wed, 7 Aug 2013 12:48:05 -0700 (PDT), Colin Youngs
Wednesday 7th August 2013
Sennybridge 37 mm.

Did South Wales get some organised showers, then? I don't recall any
being forecast, although it is highly probable I could've missed
something...

Hail shower and heavy rain reported at Sennybridge at 17.00 / 18.00 http://tinyurl.com/lalrjbr

Can also be seen on rainfall radar http://europa.buienradar.nl/h.aspx?r=&soort=loop24uur

http://tinyurl.com/kt4kxzd

Colin Youngs
Brussels

Op woensdag 7 augustus 2013 22:21:46 UTC+2 schreef Teignmouth:
The high temperature at Solent seems a bit suspect, & not for the 1st time!
Is it situated in a sheltered location?

I think it's correct as reported http://tinyurl.com/m28voc5 but the (excessively) sheltered location of the Solent site has been commented on before, notably by Dave Ludlow.

http://tinyurl.com/mgjyjtu

Colin Youngs
Brussels

Thanks Colin,

Looking at the Google street view, the location at Solent clearly does not receive free flowing air from all directions so, if the wind is blowing from behind the house with sunshine from the front of the house, the temperature will be artificially high & I don't know how the Met Office can accept it as an official site.

Teignmouth wrote:

Thanks Colin,

Looking at the Google street view, the location at Solent clearly does not
receive free flowing air from all directions so, if the wind is blowing
from behind the house with sunshine from the front of the house, the
temperature will be artificially high & I don't know how the Met Office
can accept it as an official site.

As an ex-Coastguard Officer I would hazard a guess and say that the Met
Office actually put the station there, as they did at many constantly
manned stations.
They would pay us, in the days before automation, a small sum for each set
of observations, which was divided between us just before Christmas, along
with the money we received from Lloyds Register for shipping reports.

My first Coastguard Station was at Banff, which was a climatological
reporting station. We didn't get paid by the Met Office but by the
Department of the Environment, who wanted the rainfall figures and the
Banff and Buchan Tourist Organisation who wanted the sunshine totals.
Our readings were also entered in the local paper each week.

We had a Stevenson screen with wet, dry, min and max thermometers, a 5"
rain gauge and a Campbell Stokes sunshine recorder. No wind speed or
direction indicators (other than the Coastguard ensign), which would have
been of the most use to us as Coastguards :-)
Occasionally a person from the Met Office in Edinburgh would visit and make
sure the screen was well-maintained and that the instruments were working
properly.
--
MCC

On Thu, 8 Aug 2013 05:02:08 -0700 (PDT), Teignmouth
wrote:

Thanks Colin,

Looking at the Google street view, the location at Solent clearly does not receive free flowing air from all directions so, if the wind is blowing from behind the house with sunshine from the front of the house, the temperature will be artificially high & I don't know how the Met Office can accept it as an official site.

Yes, the screen is in a "front garden" location so the shelter
provided by the coastguard "house" when the Wind is from the north NE
or East (as yesterday) can affect screen temperatures. For the record,
I recorded a maximum yesterday in my back garden north wall setup of
23.3 deg C and Southampton Airport had a highest METAR report of 22
(they may use an aspirated screen). I should add that most of the
Solent temperature excess over mine is Stevenson Screen effect (my
screen is never in direct sunshine).

The solution is to move the screen and associated AWS equipment 300
metres north onto to the Daedelus airfield - it's been owned by the
Coastguard Agency for several years now (for the rescue helicopter
base) and unlike the Solent MRSC site, is not going to be closed or
sold off next year.

The new coastguard Maritime Operations Centre in nearby Fareham is on
an unsuitable site - too many tall trees! So to avoid a
Woodford-Rostherne type hiatus, the Met Office should be moving its
gear onto the airfield NOW!

--
Dave
West Fareham.