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Default [WR] South and East Essex - Current record rainfall totals locally- Hadleigh and Canvey Island almost 90mm.

In article ,
Ken Cook writes:
I advised No.2 son (lives in Wanstead) not to go to the cricket
yesterday but football instead (Wycombe away at Oxford). I see
even some football was called off down there!


I saw that Charlton's home game was abandoned at half-time yesterday
because of a waterlogged pitch. Their ground must be only a mile or two
away from Lawrence's home, so he might be reconsidering his ridicule of
the Met Office's yellow warning.
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John Hall wrote:
In article ,
Ken Cook writes:
I advised No.2 son (lives in Wanstead) not to go to the cricket
yesterday but football instead (Wycombe away at Oxford). I see
even some football was called off down there!


I saw that Charlton's home game was abandoned at half-time yesterday
because of a waterlogged pitch. Their ground must be only a mile or two
away from Lawrence's home, so he might be reconsidering his ridicule of
the Met Office's yellow warning.

-----------------------------------
....... other than perhaps the colour should have been redder ;-)
My friend is a local Councillor on Canvey Island and was out wading
through knee deep water rescuing some old people living in bungalows who
were temprarily cut off. He was around in 1953 but wasn't comparing
though mentioned something similar around 1960. One of the problems was
the high tide was about 4pm so the water level in the creek was making
it difficult to pump water away hence the problems they were having with
it backing up through the toilets. Apparently a lot of recent building
has connected surface water drains to the sewage system.
Dave
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Default [WR] South and East Essex - Current record rainfall totals locally-Hadleigh and Canvey Island almost 90mm.

On 25/08/13 17:32, Dave Cornwell wrote:
John Hall wrote:
In article ,
Ken Cook writes:
I advised No.2 son (lives in Wanstead) not to go to the cricket
yesterday but football instead (Wycombe away at Oxford). I see
even some football was called off down there!


I saw that Charlton's home game was abandoned at half-time yesterday
because of a waterlogged pitch. Their ground must be only a mile or two
away from Lawrence's home, so he might be reconsidering his ridicule of
the Met Office's yellow warning.

-----------------------------------
...... other than perhaps the colour should have been redder ;-)
My friend is a local Councillor on Canvey Island and was out wading
through knee deep water rescuing some old people living in bungalows who
were temprarily cut off. He was around in 1953 but wasn't comparing
though mentioned something similar around 1960. One of the problems was
the high tide was about 4pm so the water level in the creek was making
it difficult to pump water away hence the problems they were having with
it backing up through the toilets. Apparently a lot of recent building
has connected surface water drains to the sewage system.
Dave


Sounds like if anything a yellow warning was insufficient. The effects
you describe sound more akin to an amber warning, possibly even a red
warning in very localised areas.
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Default [WR] South and East Essex - Current record rainfall totals locally- Hadleigh and Canvey Island almost 90mm.

Adam Lea wrote:

On 25/08/13 17:32, Dave Cornwell wrote:
John Hall wrote:
In article ,
Ken Cook writes:
I advised No.2 son (lives in Wanstead) not to go to the cricket
yesterday but football instead (Wycombe away at Oxford). I see
even some football was called off down there!

I saw that Charlton's home game was abandoned at half-time yesterday
because of a waterlogged pitch. Their ground must be only a mile or two
away from Lawrence's home, so he might be reconsidering his ridicule of
the Met Office's yellow warning.

-----------------------------------
...... other than perhaps the colour should have been redder ;-)
My friend is a local Councillor on Canvey Island and was out wading
through knee deep water rescuing some old people living in bungalows who
were temprarily cut off. He was around in 1953 but wasn't comparing
though mentioned something similar around 1960. One of the problems was
the high tide was about 4pm so the water level in the creek was making
it difficult to pump water away hence the problems they were having with
it backing up through the toilets. Apparently a lot of recent building
has connected surface water drains to the sewage system.
Dave


Sounds like if anything a yellow warning was insufficient. The effects you
describe sound more akin to an amber warning, possibly even a red warning in
very localised areas.


Yet here, where there was a yellow warning, we got only 0.2 mm. It highlights
the difficulty in pinning it down in such a way that the warnings are really
applicable. More frequent updating and fine-tuning of the warnings would be
helpful.

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Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
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Default [WR] South and East Essex - Current record rainfall totalslocally- Hadleigh and Canvey Island almost 90mm.

In Mid Suffolk the yellow warning applied to me also. The areas of rain continually faded away in my immediate vicinity. Total measured for this event was 5.2mm ( 24 hrs to 0900z on Sat 1.3mm and following 24hrs 3.9mm). 15 miles to S E Wattisham recorded 14.4mm.
Brown grass on lawns now three quarters green here and local farmer active on his land today planting oil seed rape for next years harvest!
NSS. Mid Suffolk.


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Default [WR] South and East Essex - Current record rainfall totals locally- Hadleigh and Canvey Island almost 90mm.

In article ,
Adam Lea writes:
On 25/08/13 17:32, Dave Cornwell wrote:
My friend is a local Councillor on Canvey Island and was out wading
through knee deep water rescuing some old people living in bungalows who
were temprarily cut off. He was around in 1953 but wasn't comparing
though mentioned something similar around 1960. One of the problems was
the high tide was about 4pm so the water level in the creek was making
it difficult to pump water away hence the problems they were having with
it backing up through the toilets. Apparently a lot of recent building
has connected surface water drains to the sewage system.
Dave


Sounds like if anything a yellow warning was insufficient. The
effects you describe sound more akin to an amber warning,
possibly even a red warning in very localised areas.


The colour of the warning takes into account both the probability of the
event occurring and its severity if it occurs, not just its severity.
Also I imagine that there was no way of predicting just where the really
heavy rain would fall, and they couldn't know that it would be somewhere
as susceptible to flooding as Canvey Island.
--
John Hall
"Sir, I have found you an argument;
but I am not obliged to find you an understanding."
Dr Samuel Johnson (1709-1784)
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