As at 20.30 - still raining
Laindon (here) 71mm
Corringham - 76mm
Hadleigh - 89mm
Canvey island- 87mm

This is a particular problem on Canvey Island as it is below sea level.
The roads are under a foot or more of water as high tide was around 4pm
so the water can't flow away. The main A127 is also shut.
Maybe why there were yellow warnings issued Lawrence?

Dave

"Dave Cornwell" wrote in message ...

As at 20.30 - still raining
Laindon (here) 71mm
Corringham - 76mm
Hadleigh - 89mm
Canvey island- 87mm

This is a particular problem on Canvey Island as it is below sea level.
The roads are under a foot or more of water as high tide was around 4pm
so the water can't flow away. The main A127 is also shut.
Maybe why there were yellow warnings issued Lawrence?

Hi, Dave,
Any ideas of final 24 hour totals? Those figures are impressive. I advised
No.2 son (lives in Wanstead) not to go to the cricket yesterday but football
instead (Wycombe away at Oxford). I see even some football was called off
down there!
Not much rain here during the day yesterday and Bishops beat Penrith.
Best wishes,
Ken
Copley, Teesdale

On Sunday, August 25, 2013 9:36:54 AM UTC+1, Ken Cook wrote:
"Dave Cornwell" wrote in message ...



As at 20.30 - still raining

Laindon (here) 71mm

Corringham - 76mm

Hadleigh - 89mm

Canvey island- 87mm



This is a particular problem on Canvey Island as it is below sea level.

The roads are under a foot or more of water as high tide was around 4pm

so the water can't flow away. The main A127 is also shut.

Maybe why there were yellow warnings issued Lawrence?



Hi, Dave,

Any ideas of final 24 hour totals? Those figures are impressive. I advised

No.2 son (lives in Wanstead) not to go to the cricket yesterday but football

instead (Wycombe away at Oxford). I see even some football was called off

down there!

Not much rain here during the day yesterday and Bishops beat Penrith.

Best wishes,

Ken

Copley, Teesdale

Hello Ken / Dave. My final 09z total is 32.3mm! Easily the most I've recorded - and more remarkable that it wasn't a thundery downpour. Looking back over the record going back to 1961 at City of London cemetery the event looks like it is in the 'Top 20' of rainfall events here. I am still processing this old data so may be further down.
Looking in Gordon Manley's "Climate" this synoptic set up giving a deluge in the SE is by no means unusual...
Without being too specific, Ken, where in Wanstead does your son live - our paths have possibly crossed.

"Scott W" wrote in message
...

Hello Ken / Dave. My final 09z total is 32.3mm! Easily the most I've
recorded - and more remarkable that it wasn't a thundery downpour. Looking
back over the record going back to 1961 at City of London cemetery the event
looks like it is in the 'Top 20' of rainfall events here. I am still
processing this old data so may be further down.
Looking in Gordon Manley's "Climate" this synoptic set up giving a deluge in
the SE is by no means unusual...
Without being too specific, Ken, where in Wanstead does your son live - our
paths have possibly crossed.

Hi, Scott,
Close to Wanstead Park. Lovely part of the world and so much to do and see
around there. I obviously read your posts with interest, he is very
impressed that I know what the weather's doing with so much accuracy!!
Best wishes,
Ken
Copley, Teesdale

In article ,
Ken Cook writes:
I advised No.2 son (lives in Wanstead) not to go to the cricket
yesterday but football instead (Wycombe away at Oxford). I see
even some football was called off down there!

I saw that Charlton's home game was abandoned at half-time yesterday
because of a waterlogged pitch. Their ground must be only a mile or two
away from Lawrence's home, so he might be reconsidering his ridicule of
the Met Office's yellow warning.
--
John Hall
"Sir, I have found you an argument;
but I am not obliged to find you an understanding."
Dr Samuel Johnson (1709-1784)

John Hall wrote:
In article ,
Ken Cook writes:
I advised No.2 son (lives in Wanstead) not to go to the cricket
yesterday but football instead (Wycombe away at Oxford). I see
even some football was called off down there!

I saw that Charlton's home game was abandoned at half-time yesterday
because of a waterlogged pitch. Their ground must be only a mile or two
away from Lawrence's home, so he might be reconsidering his ridicule of
the Met Office's yellow warning.
-----------------------------------
....... other than perhaps the colour should have been redder ;-)
My friend is a local Councillor on Canvey Island and was out wading
through knee deep water rescuing some old people living in bungalows who
were temprarily cut off. He was around in 1953 but wasn't comparing
though mentioned something similar around 1960. One of the problems was
the high tide was about 4pm so the water level in the creek was making
it difficult to pump water away hence the problems they were having with
it backing up through the toilets. Apparently a lot of recent building
has connected surface water drains to the sewage system.
Dave

On 25/08/13 17:32, Dave Cornwell wrote:
John Hall wrote:
In article ,
Ken Cook writes:
I advised No.2 son (lives in Wanstead) not to go to the cricket
yesterday but football instead (Wycombe away at Oxford). I see
even some football was called off down there!

I saw that Charlton's home game was abandoned at half-time yesterday
because of a waterlogged pitch. Their ground must be only a mile or two
away from Lawrence's home, so he might be reconsidering his ridicule of
the Met Office's yellow warning.
-----------------------------------
...... other than perhaps the colour should have been redder ;-)
My friend is a local Councillor on Canvey Island and was out wading
through knee deep water rescuing some old people living in bungalows who
were temprarily cut off. He was around in 1953 but wasn't comparing
though mentioned something similar around 1960. One of the problems was
the high tide was about 4pm so the water level in the creek was making
it difficult to pump water away hence the problems they were having with
it backing up through the toilets. Apparently a lot of recent building
has connected surface water drains to the sewage system.
Dave

Sounds like if anything a yellow warning was insufficient. The effects
you describe sound more akin to an amber warning, possibly even a red
warning in very localised areas.

Adam Lea wrote:

On 25/08/13 17:32, Dave Cornwell wrote:
John Hall wrote:
In article ,
Ken Cook writes:
I advised No.2 son (lives in Wanstead) not to go to the cricket
yesterday but football instead (Wycombe away at Oxford). I see
even some football was called off down there!

I saw that Charlton's home game was abandoned at half-time yesterday
because of a waterlogged pitch. Their ground must be only a mile or two
away from Lawrence's home, so he might be reconsidering his ridicule of
the Met Office's yellow warning.
-----------------------------------
...... other than perhaps the colour should have been redder ;-)
My friend is a local Councillor on Canvey Island and was out wading
through knee deep water rescuing some old people living in bungalows who
were temprarily cut off. He was around in 1953 but wasn't comparing
though mentioned something similar around 1960. One of the problems was
the high tide was about 4pm so the water level in the creek was making
it difficult to pump water away hence the problems they were having with
it backing up through the toilets. Apparently a lot of recent building
has connected surface water drains to the sewage system.
Dave

Sounds like if anything a yellow warning was insufficient. The effects you
describe sound more akin to an amber warning, possibly even a red warning in
very localised areas.

Yet here, where there was a yellow warning, we got only 0.2 mm. It highlights
the difficulty in pinning it down in such a way that the warnings are really
applicable. More frequent updating and fine-tuning of the warnings would be
helpful.

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.

In article ,
Adam Lea writes:
On 25/08/13 17:32, Dave Cornwell wrote:
My friend is a local Councillor on Canvey Island and was out wading
through knee deep water rescuing some old people living in bungalows who
were temprarily cut off. He was around in 1953 but wasn't comparing
though mentioned something similar around 1960. One of the problems was
the high tide was about 4pm so the water level in the creek was making
it difficult to pump water away hence the problems they were having with
it backing up through the toilets. Apparently a lot of recent building
has connected surface water drains to the sewage system.
Dave

Sounds like if anything a yellow warning was insufficient. The
effects you describe sound more akin to an amber warning,
possibly even a red warning in very localised areas.

The colour of the warning takes into account both the probability of the
event occurring and its severity if it occurs, not just its severity.
Also I imagine that there was no way of predicting just where the really
heavy rain would fall, and they couldn't know that it would be somewhere
as susceptible to flooding as Canvey Island.
--
John Hall
"Sir, I have found you an argument;
but I am not obliged to find you an understanding."
Dr Samuel Johnson (1709-1784)

On Saturday, August 24, 2013 8:31:49 PM UTC+1, Dave Cornwell wrote:
As at 20.30 - still raining

Laindon (here) 71mm

Corringham - 76mm

Hadleigh - 89mm

Canvey island- 87mm



This is a particular problem on Canvey Island as it is below sea level.

The roads are under a foot or more of water as high tide was around 4pm

so the water can't flow away. The main A127 is also shut.

Maybe why there were yellow warnings issued Lawrence?



Dave

Goodness. It's not often that about 1/6th of a place's annual rainfall falls in one 24-hour period. Impressive - and at spring tides in a low lying area too obviously led to flooding. Good job there wasn't a NE gale, or Jan 1953 could have been repeated.