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http://bit.ly/184M73L (University of Surrey).

"According to a new book written by Surrey’s Professor Ian Roulstone and Oxford University’s Professor John Norbury, the weather will never be entirely predictable, despite being one of the most highly studied and technologically advanced sciences in the modern world.

" ‘Invisible in the Storm: The Role of Mathematics in Understanding Weather’ explores how mathematics and meteorology come together [...] taking readers on a fascinating journey through the work of trailblazing scientists over the past 100 years."


Stephen.

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http://bit.ly/184M73L (University of Surrey).

"According to a new book written by Surrey’s Professor Ian Roulstone and
Oxford University’s Professor John Norbury, the weather will never be
entirely predictable, despite being one of the most highly studied and
technologically advanced sciences in the modern world.

" ‘Invisible in the Storm: The Role of Mathematics in Understanding Weather’
explores how mathematics and meteorology come together [...] taking readers
on a fascinating journey through the work of trailblazing scientists over
the past 100 years."


Stephen.

Yes, must be about the most readable technical meteorology book I have ever
read. I thought I noticed an error near the top of p.182, where it flatly
contradicted something in the middle of the previous page. I communicated
this to Princeton UP but got no reply, so perhaps the error might have been
mine.

Ian Bingham,
Inchmarlo, Aberdeenshire.

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On Friday, 13 September 2013 06:38:21 UTC+1, Ian Bingham wrote:
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http://bit.ly/184M73L (University of Surrey).

"According to a new book written by Surrey’s Professor Ian Roulstone and

Oxford University’s Professor John Norbury, the weather will never be
entirely predictable, despite being one of the most highly studied and
technologically advanced sciences in the modern world.


That is because forecasts for the weather on modern charts also contain forecasts for the complete range of other geo-phenomenon.

For what it's worth if they could correct them to remopve those butterflies, it would be a disaster.

" ‘Invisible in the Storm: The Role of Mathematics in Understanding Weather’
explores how mathematics and meteorology come together [...] taking readers
on a fascinating journey through the work of trailblazing scientists over
the past 100 years."

Yes, must be about the most readable technical meteorology book I have ever
read. I thought I noticed an error near the top of p.182, where it flatly
contradicted something in the middle of the previous page. I communicated
this to Princeton UP but got no reply, so perhaps the error might have been
mine.


Trying to get a reply, you mean?

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"Ian Bingham" wrote in message
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"Stephen Davenport" wrote in message
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http://bit.ly/184M73L (University of Surrey).

"According to a new book written by Surrey's Professor Ian Roulstone and
Oxford University's Professor John Norbury, the weather will never be
entirely predictable, despite being one of the most highly studied and
technologically advanced sciences in the modern world.

" 'Invisible in the Storm: The Role of Mathematics in Understanding
Weather' explores how mathematics and meteorology come together [...]
taking readers on a fascinating journey through the work of trailblazing
scientists over the past 100 years."


Stephen.

Yes, must be about the most readable technical meteorology book I have
ever read. I thought I noticed an error near the top of p.182, where it
flatly contradicted something in the middle of the previous page. I
communicated this to Princeton UP but got no reply, so perhaps the error
might have been mine.

Ian Bingham,
Inchmarlo, Aberdeenshire.


You are more likely to get a reply by contacting the lead author:
Ian Roulstone. His university page is here with his email at the bottom. (I
won't post his email address in case it is harvested.)
http://personal.maths.surrey.ac.uk/st/I.Roulstone/

For those who would like a taste of the book without forking out, there is a
short article here by the authors:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ian-ro...b_3324110.html

Cheers, Alastair.






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"Alastair McDonald" wrote in message ...


"Ian Bingham" wrote in message
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"Stephen Davenport" wrote in message
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http://bit.ly/184M73L (University of Surrey).

"According to a new book written by Surrey's Professor Ian Roulstone and
Oxford University's Professor John Norbury, the weather will never be
entirely predictable, despite being one of the most highly studied and
technologically advanced sciences in the modern world.

" 'Invisible in the Storm: The Role of Mathematics in Understanding
Weather' explores how mathematics and meteorology come together [...]
taking readers on a fascinating journey through the work of trailblazing
scientists over the past 100 years."


Stephen.

Yes, must be about the most readable technical meteorology book I have
ever read. I thought I noticed an error near the top of p.182, where it
flatly contradicted something in the middle of the previous page. I
communicated this to Princeton UP but got no reply, so perhaps the error
might have been mine.

Ian Bingham,
Inchmarlo, Aberdeenshire.


You are more likely to get a reply by contacting the lead author:
Ian Roulstone. His university page is here with his email at the bottom. (I
won't post his email address in case it is harvested.)
http://personal.maths.surrey.ac.uk/st/I.Roulstone/

For those who would like a taste of the book without forking out, there is a
short article here by the authors:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ian-ro...b_3324110.html

Cheers, Alastair.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Thanks, Alastair, I'll contact him. He'll probably think, "What's this
dummkopf talking about?"

Ian.










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"Ian Bingham" wrote in message
...
"Alastair McDonald" wrote in message ...


"Ian Bingham" wrote in message
...
"Stephen Davenport" wrote in message
...


http://bit.ly/184M73L (University of Surrey).

"According to a new book written by Surrey's Professor Ian Roulstone and
Oxford University's Professor John Norbury, the weather will never be
entirely predictable, despite being one of the most highly studied and
technologically advanced sciences in the modern world.

" 'Invisible in the Storm: The Role of Mathematics in Understanding
Weather' explores how mathematics and meteorology come together [...]
taking readers on a fascinating journey through the work of trailblazing
scientists over the past 100 years."


Stephen.

Yes, must be about the most readable technical meteorology book I have
ever read. I thought I noticed an error near the top of p.182, where it
flatly contradicted something in the middle of the previous page. I
communicated this to Princeton UP but got no reply, so perhaps the error
might have been mine.

Ian Bingham,
Inchmarlo, Aberdeenshire.


You are more likely to get a reply by contacting the lead author:
Ian Roulstone. His university page is here with his email at the bottom.
(I
won't post his email address in case it is harvested.)
http://personal.maths.surrey.ac.uk/st/I.Roulstone/

For those who would like a taste of the book without forking out, there is
a
short article here by the authors:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ian-ro...b_3324110.html

Cheers, Alastair.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Thanks, Alastair, I'll contact him. He'll probably think, "What's this
dummkopf talking about?"

Ian.


I doubt that! He will be VERY pleased to hear from one of their readers
especially if you are appeciative. Moreover, they will be keeping a list of
corrections (and comments) in the hope that the book goes into a second
edition!

OTOH, don't tell him he is wrong. Remember the song "Two lovely black eyes".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nxoesda-QK0

Cheers, Alastair.


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"Ian Bingham" wrote in message
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"Alastair McDonald" wrote in message ...


"Ian Bingham" wrote in message
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"Stephen Davenport" wrote in message
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http://bit.ly/184M73L (University of Surrey).

"According to a new book written by Surrey's Professor Ian Roulstone and
Oxford University's Professor John Norbury, the weather will never be
entirely predictable, despite being one of the most highly studied and
technologically advanced sciences in the modern world.

" 'Invisible in the Storm: The Role of Mathematics in Understanding
Weather' explores how mathematics and meteorology come together [...]
taking readers on a fascinating journey through the work of trailblazing
scientists over the past 100 years."


Stephen.

Yes, must be about the most readable technical meteorology book I have
ever read. I thought I noticed an error near the top of p.182, where it
flatly contradicted something in the middle of the previous page. I
communicated this to Princeton UP but got no reply, so perhaps the error
might have been mine.

Ian Bingham,
Inchmarlo, Aberdeenshire.


You are more likely to get a reply by contacting the lead author:
Ian Roulstone. His university page is here with his email at the bottom.
(I
won't post his email address in case it is harvested.)
http://personal.maths.surrey.ac.uk/st/I.Roulstone/

For those who would like a taste of the book without forking out, there is
a
short article here by the authors:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ian-ro...b_3324110.html

Cheers, Alastair.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Thanks, Alastair, I'll contact him. He'll probably think, "What's this
dummkopf talking about?"

Ian.


I doubt that! He will be VERY pleased to hear from one of their readers
especially if you are appeciative. Moreover, they will be keeping a list of
corrections (and comments) in the hope that the book goes into a second
edition!

OTOH, don't tell him he is wrong. Remember the song "Two lovely black eyes".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nxoesda-QK0

Cheers, Alastair.

============================================
That's a lovely breath of the old Victorian Music Hall. When I was a kid my
granny had an old cracked gramophone record of Caruso singing the Italian
original, where the two lovely black eyes presumably belonged to some
Italian maiden.

Ian.



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"Ian Bingham" wrote in message
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"Ian Bingham" wrote in message
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"Alastair McDonald" wrote in message ...


"Ian Bingham" wrote in message
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"Stephen Davenport" wrote in message
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http://bit.ly/184M73L (University of Surrey).

"According to a new book written by Surrey's Professor Ian Roulstone and
Oxford University's Professor John Norbury, the weather will never be
entirely predictable, despite being one of the most highly studied and
technologically advanced sciences in the modern world.

" 'Invisible in the Storm: The Role of Mathematics in Understanding
Weather' explores how mathematics and meteorology come together [...]
taking readers on a fascinating journey through the work of trailblazing
scientists over the past 100 years."


Stephen.

Yes, must be about the most readable technical meteorology book I have
ever read. I thought I noticed an error near the top of p.182, where it
flatly contradicted something in the middle of the previous page. I
communicated this to Princeton UP but got no reply, so perhaps the error
might have been mine.

Ian Bingham,
Inchmarlo, Aberdeenshire.


You are more likely to get a reply by contacting the lead author:
Ian Roulstone. His university page is here with his email at the bottom.
(I
won't post his email address in case it is harvested.)
http://personal.maths.surrey.ac.uk/st/I.Roulstone/

For those who would like a taste of the book without forking out, there is
a
short article here by the authors:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ian-ro...b_3324110.html

Cheers, Alastair.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Thanks, Alastair, I'll contact him. He'll probably think, "What's this
dummkopf talking about?"

Ian.


I doubt that! He will be VERY pleased to hear from one of their readers
especially if you are appeciative. Moreover, they will be keeping a list of
corrections (and comments) in the hope that the book goes into a second
edition!

OTOH, don't tell him he is wrong. Remember the song "Two lovely black eyes".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nxoesda-QK0

Cheers, Alastair.

============================================
That's a lovely breath of the old Victorian Music Hall. When I was a kid my
granny had an old cracked gramophone record of Caruso singing the Italian
original, where the two lovely black eyes presumably belonged to some
Italian maiden.

Ian.

================================================== ===================
I have now heard from Prof.Roulstone. The text is actually correct as it
stands but he admits it is confusing. Apparently the printer did not
follow their instructions about a certain diagram and when they asked for it
to be changed, the printer said it would be easier if they let the diagram
stand and altered the text. He asked my permission to forward my e-mail to
the editor to help press their case for altering the diagram, to which I
readily agreed of course. So it looks as if my query was not in vain.

Ian.


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"Ian Bingham" wrote in message
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"Ian Bingham" wrote in message
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"Alastair McDonald" wrote in message ...


"Ian Bingham" wrote in message
...
"Alastair McDonald" wrote in message ...


"Ian Bingham" wrote in message
...
"Stephen Davenport" wrote in message
...


http://bit.ly/184M73L (University of Surrey).

"According to a new book written by Surrey's Professor Ian Roulstone and
Oxford University's Professor John Norbury, the weather will never be
entirely predictable, despite being one of the most highly studied and
technologically advanced sciences in the modern world.

" 'Invisible in the Storm: The Role of Mathematics in Understanding
Weather' explores how mathematics and meteorology come together [...]
taking readers on a fascinating journey through the work of trailblazing
scientists over the past 100 years."


Stephen.

Yes, must be about the most readable technical meteorology book I have
ever read. I thought I noticed an error near the top of p.182, where it
flatly contradicted something in the middle of the previous page. I
communicated this to Princeton UP but got no reply, so perhaps the error
might have been mine.

Ian Bingham,
Inchmarlo, Aberdeenshire.


You are more likely to get a reply by contacting the lead author:
Ian Roulstone. His university page is here with his email at the bottom.
(I
won't post his email address in case it is harvested.)
http://personal.maths.surrey.ac.uk/st/I.Roulstone/

For those who would like a taste of the book without forking out, there
is
a
short article here by the authors:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ian-ro...b_3324110.html

Cheers, Alastair.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Thanks, Alastair, I'll contact him. He'll probably think, "What's this
dummkopf talking about?"

Ian.


I doubt that! He will be VERY pleased to hear from one of their readers
especially if you are appeciative. Moreover, they will be keeping a list
of
corrections (and comments) in the hope that the book goes into a second
edition!

OTOH, don't tell him he is wrong. Remember the song "Two lovely black
eyes".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nxoesda-QK0

Cheers, Alastair.

============================================
That's a lovely breath of the old Victorian Music Hall. When I was a kid
my
granny had an old cracked gramophone record of Caruso singing the Italian
original, where the two lovely black eyes presumably belonged to some
Italian maiden.

Ian.

================================================== ===================
I have now heard from Prof.Roulstone. The text is actually correct as it
stands but he admits it is confusing. Apparently the printer did not
follow their instructions about a certain diagram and when they asked for
it to be changed, the printer said it would be easier if they let the
diagram stand and altered the text. He asked my permission to forward my
e-mail to the editor to help press their case for altering the diagram, to
which I readily agreed of course. So it looks as if my query was not in
vain.

Ian.


Well spotted, and well done!

Cheers, Alastair.




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