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I recall reading on here that they were going to cease to be reported come November, any mroe updates on this situation, will they just stop ? THis was murmered back in 2006, but thankfully never happened then.
Are there any lines to this ? Raining steadily now at Southend.. Keith (Southend) http://www.southendweather.net "Weather Home & Abroad" |
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Keith (Southend)G wrote:
I recall reading on here that they were going to cease to be reported come November, any mroe updates on this situation, will they just stop ? THis was murmered back in 2006, but thankfully never happened then. Are there any lines to this ? Raining steadily now at Southend.. Keith (Southend) http://www.southendweather.net "Weather Home & Abroad" Hi Keith - I received notification from the Met Office on 9th August that the use of the SYNOP code would terminate in November (no precise date was given). It was a formal notification as I am a paying customer for some data. I haven't heard anything further since then. I'll rattle the cage a bit this week for an update. I have discussed this with contacts in the USA and they were not aware of any immediate plans to terminate the use of the SYNOP code. -- Norman Lynagh Tideswell, Derbyshire 303m a.s.l. |
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On Saturday, 19 October 2013 13:12:44 UTC+1, Norman wrote:
Keith (Southend)G wrote: I recall reading on here that they were going to cease to be reported come November, any mroe updates on this situation, will they just stop ? THis was murmered back in 2006, but thankfully never happened then. Are there any lines to this ? Raining steadily now at Southend.. Keith (Southend) http://www.southendweather.net "Weather Home & Abroad" Hi Keith - I received notification from the Met Office on 9th August that the use of the SYNOP code would terminate in November (no precise date was given). It was a formal notification as I am a paying customer for some data. I haven't heard anything further since then. I'll rattle the cage a bit this week for an update. I have discussed this with contacts in the USA and they were not aware of any immediate plans to terminate the use of the SYNOP code. -- Norman Lynagh Tideswell, Derbyshire 303m a.s.l. Thanks Norman, I guess what will probably happen is certain Countries will start to dissapear from the code until eventually they all cease. Gee, I won't know what to do with my spare time as I do not have the knowhow to decode whatever is taking over, nor do I know if we will be able to get in the public domain. But maybe it's for the best ? Keith (Southend) |
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On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 05:39:31 -0700 (PDT), "Keith (Southend)G"
wrote: Thanks Norman, I guess what will probably happen is certain Countries will = start to dissapear from the code until eventually they all cease. Gee, I wo= I think you're right, Keith. It is the case that some countries are more prepared for the switch than others, so there won't be a single date that the Synop code stops being used worldwide. It is likely to be the case that web sites will pop up across the Internet providing decoding services for the new format (BUFR). Who knows, they may even offer the facility to encode into Synop! -- Freddie Castle Pulverbatch Shropshire 221m AMSL http://www.hosiene.co.uk/weather/ http://twitter.com/PulverbatchWx for hourly reports |
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Freddie wrote:
On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 05:39:31 -0700 (PDT), "Keith (Southend)G" wrote: Thanks Norman, I guess what will probably happen is certain Countries will = start to dissapear from the code until eventually they all cease. Gee, I wo= I think you're right, Keith. It is the case that some countries are more prepared for the switch than others, so there won't be a single date that the Synop code stops being used worldwide. It is likely to be the case that web sites will pop up across the Internet providing decoding services for the new format (BUFR). Who knows, they may even offer the facility to encode into Synop! My contacts in the USA think it is possible that the university sites will convert the data from BUFR code and continue to present it on-line in SYNOP code because there is such an extensive user community with systems based on the SYNOP code (and other alpha-numeric codes). All speculation, of course. We'll have to wait and see what evolves. -- Norman Lynagh Tideswell, Derbyshire 303m a.s.l. |
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On Saturday, 19 October 2013 14:45:49 UTC+1, Norman wrote:
Freddie wrote: On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 05:39:31 -0700 (PDT), "Keith (Southend)G" wrote: Thanks Norman, I guess what will probably happen is certain Countries will = start to dissapear from the code until eventually they all cease. Gee, I wo= I think you're right, Keith. It is the case that some countries are more prepared for the switch than others, so there won't be a single date that the Synop code stops being used worldwide. It is likely to be the case that web sites will pop up across the Internet providing decoding services for the new format (BUFR). Who knows, they may even offer the facility to encode into Synop! My contacts in the USA think it is possible that the university sites will convert the data from BUFR code and continue to present it on-line in SYNOP code because there is such an extensive user community with systems based on the SYNOP code (and other alpha-numeric codes). All speculation, of course. We'll have to wait and see what evolves. -- Norman Lynagh Tideswell, Derbyshire 303m a.s.l. Mmm, sounds like all bets are still on :-) Out of interest is the BUFR code publicly available on the internet, I'd be interested to see it. Still rainer here ~ 3.0mm so far Keith (Southend) |
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Keith (Southend)G wrote:
On Saturday, 19 October 2013 14:45:49 UTC+1, Norman wrote: Freddie wrote: On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 05:39:31 -0700 (PDT), "Keith (Southend)G" wrote: Thanks Norman, I guess what will probably happen is certain Countries will = start to dissapear from the code until eventually they all cease. Gee, I wo= I think you're right, Keith. It is the case that some countries are more prepared for the switch than others, so there won't be a single date that the Synop code stops being used worldwide. It is likely to be the case that web sites will pop up across the Internet providing decoding services for the new format (BUFR). Who knows, they may even offer the facility to encode into Synop! My contacts in the USA think it is possible that the university sites will convert the data from BUFR code and continue to present it on-line in SYNOP code because there is such an extensive user community with systems based on the SYNOP code (and other alpha-numeric codes). All speculation, of course. We'll have to wait and see what evolves. -- Norman Lynagh Tideswell, Derbyshire 303m a.s.l. Mmm, sounds like all bets are still on :-) Out of interest is the BUFR code publicly available on the internet, I'd be interested to see it. Still rainer here ~ 3.0mm so far Keith (Southend) Keith, If you've got the stomach for it try the following (watch out for line-wrap on some of the links): • The official version of the BUFR tables may be accessed through the WMO site at http://www.wmo.int/pages/prog/www/WM...stVERSION.html • Recommended BUFR templates for use in TDCF can be found at http://www.wmo.int/pages/prog/www/WM...ml#Regulations • A users / programmers guide to BUFR can be found at http://www.wmo.int/pages/prog/www/WM...reface_en.html • The WMO published a document in 2010 for discussion at the ET-DRC which outlined the BUFR conversion software available at that time. • See http://www.wmo.int/pages/prog/www/IS...-II_Doc5-3.doc -- Norman Lynagh Tideswell, Derbyshire 303m a.s.l. |
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On Saturday, 19 October 2013 15:42:37 UTC+1, Norman wrote:
http://www.wmo.int/pages/prog/www/WM...stVERSION.html • Recommended BUFR templates for use in TDCF can be found at http://www.wmo.int/pages/prog/www/WM...ml#Regulations • A users / programmers guide to BUFR can be found at http://www.wmo.int/pages/prog/www/WM...reface_en.html • The WMO published a document in 2010 for discussion at the ET-DRC which outlined the BUFR conversion software available at that time. • See http://www.wmo.int/pages/prog/www/IS...-II_Doc5-3.doc WTFDIJR? |
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