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I recall reading on here that they were going to cease to be reported come November, any mroe updates on this situation, will they just stop ? THis was murmered back in 2006, but thankfully never happened then.

Are there any lines to this ?

Raining steadily now at Southend..

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Keith (Southend)G wrote:

I recall reading on here that they were going to cease to be reported come
November, any mroe updates on this situation, will they just stop ? THis was
murmered back in 2006, but thankfully never happened then.

Are there any lines to this ?

Raining steadily now at Southend..

Keith (Southend)
http://www.southendweather.net
"Weather Home & Abroad"


Hi Keith - I received notification from the Met Office on 9th August that the
use of the SYNOP code would terminate in November (no precise date was given).
It was a formal notification as I am a paying customer for some data. I haven't
heard anything further since then. I'll rattle the cage a bit this week for an
update.

I have discussed this with contacts in the USA and they were not aware of any
immediate plans to terminate the use of the SYNOP code.

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On Saturday, 19 October 2013 13:12:44 UTC+1, Norman wrote:
Keith (Southend)G wrote:



I recall reading on here that they were going to cease to be reported come


November, any mroe updates on this situation, will they just stop ? THis was


murmered back in 2006, but thankfully never happened then.




Are there any lines to this ?




Raining steadily now at Southend..




Keith (Southend)


http://www.southendweather.net


"Weather Home & Abroad"




Hi Keith - I received notification from the Met Office on 9th August that the

use of the SYNOP code would terminate in November (no precise date was given).

It was a formal notification as I am a paying customer for some data. I haven't

heard anything further since then. I'll rattle the cage a bit this week for an

update.



I have discussed this with contacts in the USA and they were not aware of any

immediate plans to terminate the use of the SYNOP code.



--

Norman Lynagh

Tideswell, Derbyshire

303m a.s.l.


Thanks Norman, I guess what will probably happen is certain Countries will start to dissapear from the code until eventually they all cease. Gee, I won't know what to do with my spare time as I do not have the knowhow to decode whatever is taking over, nor do I know if we will be able to get in the public domain. But maybe it's for the best ?

Keith (Southend)
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On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 05:39:31 -0700 (PDT), "Keith (Southend)G"
wrote:
Thanks Norman, I guess what will probably happen is certain

Countries will =
start to dissapear from the code until eventually they all cease.

Gee, I wo=

I think you're right, Keith. It is the case that some countries are
more prepared for the switch than others, so there won't be a single
date that the Synop code stops being used worldwide.

It is likely to be the case that web sites will pop up across the
Internet providing decoding services for the new format (BUFR). Who
knows, they may even offer the facility to encode into Synop!

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Freddie wrote:

On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 05:39:31 -0700 (PDT), "Keith (Southend)G"
wrote:
Thanks Norman, I guess what will probably happen is certain

Countries will =
start to dissapear from the code until eventually they all cease.

Gee, I wo=

I think you're right, Keith. It is the case that some countries are more
prepared for the switch than others, so there won't be a single date that the
Synop code stops being used worldwide.

It is likely to be the case that web sites will pop up across the Internet
providing decoding services for the new format (BUFR). Who knows, they may
even offer the facility to encode into Synop!



My contacts in the USA think it is possible that the university sites will
convert the data from BUFR code and continue to present it on-line in SYNOP
code because there is such an extensive user community with systems based on
the SYNOP code (and other alpha-numeric codes). All speculation, of course.
We'll have to wait and see what evolves.

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.


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On Saturday, 19 October 2013 14:45:49 UTC+1, Norman wrote:
Freddie wrote:



On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 05:39:31 -0700 (PDT), "Keith (Southend)G"


wrote:


Thanks Norman, I guess what will probably happen is certain


Countries will =


start to dissapear from the code until eventually they all cease.


Gee, I wo=




I think you're right, Keith. It is the case that some countries are more


prepared for the switch than others, so there won't be a single date that the


Synop code stops being used worldwide.




It is likely to be the case that web sites will pop up across the Internet


providing decoding services for the new format (BUFR). Who knows, they may


even offer the facility to encode into Synop!






My contacts in the USA think it is possible that the university sites will

convert the data from BUFR code and continue to present it on-line in SYNOP

code because there is such an extensive user community with systems based on

the SYNOP code (and other alpha-numeric codes). All speculation, of course.

We'll have to wait and see what evolves.



--

Norman Lynagh

Tideswell, Derbyshire

303m a.s.l.


Mmm, sounds like all bets are still on :-)

Out of interest is the BUFR code publicly available on the internet, I'd be interested to see it.

Still rainer here ~ 3.0mm so far

Keith (Southend)
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Keith (Southend)G wrote:

On Saturday, 19 October 2013 14:45:49 UTC+1, Norman wrote:
Freddie wrote:



On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 05:39:31 -0700 (PDT), "Keith (Southend)G"


wrote:


Thanks Norman, I guess what will probably happen is certain


Countries will =


start to dissapear from the code until eventually they all cease.


Gee, I wo=




I think you're right, Keith. It is the case that some countries are more


prepared for the switch than others, so there won't be a single date that
the


Synop code stops being used worldwide.




It is likely to be the case that web sites will pop up across the Internet


providing decoding services for the new format (BUFR). Who knows, they may


even offer the facility to encode into Synop!






My contacts in the USA think it is possible that the university sites will

convert the data from BUFR code and continue to present it on-line in SYNOP

code because there is such an extensive user community with systems based on

the SYNOP code (and other alpha-numeric codes). All speculation, of course.

We'll have to wait and see what evolves.



--

Norman Lynagh

Tideswell, Derbyshire

303m a.s.l.


Mmm, sounds like all bets are still on :-)

Out of interest is the BUFR code publicly available on the internet, I'd be
interested to see it.

Still rainer here ~ 3.0mm so far

Keith (Southend)




Keith, If you've got the stomach for it try the following (watch out for
line-wrap on some of the links):


• The official version of the BUFR tables may be accessed through the WMO site
at
http://www.wmo.int/pages/prog/www/WM...stVERSION.html
• Recommended BUFR templates for use in TDCF can be found at
http://www.wmo.int/pages/prog/www/WM...ml#Regulations
• A users / programmers guide to BUFR can be found at
http://www.wmo.int/pages/prog/www/WM...reface_en.html
• The WMO published a document in 2010 for discussion at the ET-DRC which
outlined the BUFR conversion software available at that time.
• See
http://www.wmo.int/pages/prog/www/IS...-II_Doc5-3.doc

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Tideswell, Derbyshire
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On Saturday, 19 October 2013 15:42:37 UTC+1, Norman wrote:

http://www.wmo.int/pages/prog/www/WM...stVERSION.html

• Recommended BUFR templates for use in TDCF can be found at

http://www.wmo.int/pages/prog/www/WM...ml#Regulations

• A users / programmers guide to BUFR can be found at

http://www.wmo.int/pages/prog/www/WM...reface_en.html

• The WMO published a document in 2010 for discussion at the ET-DRC which

outlined the BUFR conversion software available at that time.

• See

http://www.wmo.int/pages/prog/www/IS...-II_Doc5-3.doc


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