Melting Arctic sea ice means it's only going to get wetter for northern
Europe. See:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...e-8909587.html

Maybe the recovery in the sea ice caused the better summer this year :-)

Cheers, Alastair.

On Sunday, 10 November 2013 22:27:21 UTC, Alastair wrote:
Melting Arctic sea ice means it's only going to get wetter for northern

Europe. See:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...e-8909587.html



Maybe the recovery in the sea ice caused the better summer this year :-)



Cheers, Alastair.

I think the truth of the matter is we can only guess. Who's to say we don't now get a run of hot dry summers? It is more likely we will just keep getting one extreme to the next at anytime of the year, but we are only guessing as to when.

Keith (Southend)
http://www.southendweather.net
"Weather Home & Abroad"

On Sunday, 10 November 2013 22:27:21 UTC, Alastair wrote:
Melting Arctic sea ice means it's only going to get wetter for northern

Europe. See:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...e-8909587.html



Maybe the recovery in the sea ice caused the better summer this year :-)



Cheers, Alastair.

What melting ice?
Global http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosph....withtrend.jpg

You mean this sort of stuff?


"New York, Sunday Polar Icecaps were melting at an astonishing rate, Dr. W.. S Carlson said. The water from them threatened to swamp seaports by raising ocean levels, he added. Dr. Carlson, president of the University of Vermont, is an expert on the Arctic. …..

“The glaciers of Norway and Alaska are only half the size they were 50 years ago” he added.

“The temperature around Spitsbergen has been so modified that the time the sea is free of ice has lengthened from three to eight months of the year.”

Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
On Sunday, 10 November 2013 22:27:21 UTC, Alastair wrote:
Melting Arctic sea ice means it's only going to get wetter for northern

Europe. See:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...e-8909587.html



Maybe the recovery in the sea ice caused the better summer this year :-)



Cheers, Alastair.

What melting ice?
Global http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosph....withtrend.jpg

You mean this sort of stuff?


"New York, Sunday Polar Icecaps were melting at an astonishing rate, Dr. W. S Carlson said. The water from them threatened to swamp seaports by raising ocean levels, he added. Dr. Carlson, president of the University of Vermont, is an expert on the Arctic. …..

“The glaciers of Norway and Alaska are only half the size they were 50 years ago” he added.

“The temperature around Spitsbergen has been so modified that the time the sea is free of ice has lengthened from three to eight months of the year.”
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Well in the last 5 years we've had a good cross section of long dry
spells, long wet spells, all in different seasons. In fact we've had
lots of dry short spells and short wet spells. Furthermore we've had a
variety of spells of different lengths and ranges of temperature and
wind come to that.
I think I am a "climate change effect on weather" denier.
Dave

On Monday, 11 November 2013 00:14:38 UTC, Dave Cornwell wrote:
Lawrence Jenkins wrote:

On Sunday, 10 November 2013 22:27:21 UTC, Alastair wrote:

Melting Arctic sea ice means it's only going to get wetter for northern



Europe. See:



http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...e-8909587.html







Maybe the recovery in the sea ice caused the better summer this year :-)







Cheers, Alastair.



What melting ice?

Global http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosph....withtrend.jpg



You mean this sort of stuff?





"New York, Sunday Polar Icecaps were melting at an astonishing rate, Dr. W. S Carlson said. The water from them threatened to swamp seaports by raising ocean levels, he added. Dr. Carlson, president of the University of Vermont, is an expert on the Arctic. …..



“The glaciers of Norway and Alaska are only half the size they were 50 years ago” he added.



“The temperature around Spitsbergen has been so modified that the time the sea is free of ice has lengthened from three to eight months of the year.”

------------------------------------

Well in the last 5 years we've had a good cross section of long dry

spells, long wet spells, all in different seasons. In fact we've had

lots of dry short spells and short wet spells. Furthermore we've had a

variety of spells of different lengths and ranges of temperature and

wind come to that.

I think I am a "climate change effect on weather" denier.

Dave

Steady Dave as Orwell said, in a time of universal deceit telling the truth in itself is a revolutionary act.

FREEDOM FOR ESSEX

On 10/11/2013 22:27, Alastair McDonald wrote:
Melting Arctic sea ice means it's only going to get wetter for northern
Europe.

Because the Atlantic is going to get wetter?

--

Paul Hyett, Cheltenham

On Monday, November 11, 2013 12:14:38 AM UTC, Dave Cornwell wrote:
Lawrence Jenkins wrote:

On Sunday, 10 November 2013 22:27:21 UTC, Alastair wrote:

Melting Arctic sea ice means it's only going to get wetter for northern



Europe. See:



http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...e-8909587.html







Maybe the recovery in the sea ice caused the better summer this year :-)







Cheers, Alastair.



What melting ice?

Global http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosph....withtrend.jpg



You mean this sort of stuff?





"New York, Sunday Polar Icecaps were melting at an astonishing rate, Dr. W. S Carlson said. The water from them threatened to swamp seaports by raising ocean levels, he added. Dr. Carlson, president of the University of Vermont, is an expert on the Arctic. …..



“The glaciers of Norway and Alaska are only half the size they were 50 years ago” he added.



“The temperature around Spitsbergen has been so modified that the time the sea is free of ice has lengthened from three to eight months of the year.”

------------------------------------

Well in the last 5 years we've had a good cross section of long dry

spells, long wet spells, all in different seasons. In fact we've had

lots of dry short spells and short wet spells. Furthermore we've had a

variety of spells of different lengths and ranges of temperature and

wind come to that.

I think I am a "climate change effect on weather" denier.

Dave

For a tiny area like UK, I am of the same mind.

Dawlish wrote:
On Monday, November 11, 2013 12:14:38 AM UTC, Dave Cornwell wrote:
Lawrence Jenkins wrote:

On Sunday, 10 November 2013 22:27:21 UTC, Alastair wrote:
Melting Arctic sea ice means it's only going to get wetter for northern
Europe. See:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...e-8909587.html
Maybe the recovery in the sea ice caused the better summer this year :-)
Cheers, Alastair.
What melting ice?
Global http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosph....withtrend.jpg
You mean this sort of stuff?
"New York, Sunday Polar Icecaps were melting at an astonishing rate, Dr. W. S Carlson said. The water from them threatened to swamp seaports by raising ocean levels, he added. Dr. Carlson, president of the University of Vermont, is an expert on the Arctic. …..
“The glaciers of Norway and Alaska are only half the size they were 50 years ago” he added.
“The temperature around Spitsbergen has been so modified that the time the sea is free of ice has lengthened from three to eight months of the year.”
------------------------------------

Well in the last 5 years we've had a good cross section of long dry

spells, long wet spells, all in different seasons. In fact we've had

lots of dry short spells and short wet spells. Furthermore we've had a

variety of spells of different lengths and ranges of temperature and

wind come to that.

I think I am a "climate change effect on weather" denier.

Dave

For a tiny area like UK, I am of the same mind.
-----------------------------------------------------
I see weather as mostly affecting tiny areas, on a global scale,
whereever it is in the world.
Dave

On Monday, November 11, 2013 12:59:21 PM UTC, Dave Cornwell wrote:
Dawlish wrote:

On Monday, November 11, 2013 12:14:38 AM UTC, Dave Cornwell wrote:

Lawrence Jenkins wrote:



On Sunday, 10 November 2013 22:27:21 UTC, Alastair wrote:

Melting Arctic sea ice means it's only going to get wetter for northern

Europe. See:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...e-8909587.html

Maybe the recovery in the sea ice caused the better summer this year :-)

Cheers, Alastair.

What melting ice?

Global http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosph....withtrend.jpg

You mean this sort of stuff?

"New York, Sunday Polar Icecaps were melting at an astonishing rate, Dr. W. S Carlson said. The water from them threatened to swamp seaports by raising ocean levels, he added. Dr. Carlson, president of the University of Vermont, is an expert on the Arctic. …..

“The glaciers of Norway and Alaska are only half the size they were 50 years ago” he added.

“The temperature around Spitsbergen has been so modified that the time the sea is free of ice has lengthened from three to eight months of the year.”

------------------------------------



Well in the last 5 years we've had a good cross section of long dry



spells, long wet spells, all in different seasons. In fact we've had



lots of dry short spells and short wet spells. Furthermore we've had a



variety of spells of different lengths and ranges of temperature and



wind come to that.



I think I am a "climate change effect on weather" denier.



Dave



For a tiny area like UK, I am of the same mind.

-----------------------------------------------------

I see weather as mostly affecting tiny areas, on a global scale,

whereever it is in the world.

Dave

Of course. And it is the sum of the tiny areas that provided the 1.6 billion pieces of data that BEST used, but my point (and I think yours) is that you cannot use an individual tiny area over the course of a short period of time, to say much, if anything at all, about the state of GW.

On Monday, 11 November 2013 20:39:30 UTC, Dawlish wrote:
On Monday, November 11, 2013 12:59:21 PM UTC, Dave Cornwell wrote:

Dawlish wrote:



On Monday, November 11, 2013 12:14:38 AM UTC, Dave Cornwell wrote:



Lawrence Jenkins wrote:







On Sunday, 10 November 2013 22:27:21 UTC, Alastair wrote:



Melting Arctic sea ice means it's only going to get wetter for northern



Europe. See:



http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...e-8909587.html



Maybe the recovery in the sea ice caused the better summer this year :-)



Cheers, Alastair.



What melting ice?



Global http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosph....withtrend.jpg



You mean this sort of stuff?



"New York, Sunday Polar Icecaps were melting at an astonishing rate, Dr. W. S Carlson said. The water from them threatened to swamp seaports by raising ocean levels, he added. Dr. Carlson, president of the University of Vermont, is an expert on the Arctic. …..



“The glaciers of Norway and Alaska are only half the size they were 50 years ago” he added.



“The temperature around Spitsbergen has been so modified that the time the sea is free of ice has lengthened from three to eight months of the year.”



------------------------------------







Well in the last 5 years we've had a good cross section of long dry







spells, long wet spells, all in different seasons. In fact we've had







lots of dry short spells and short wet spells. Furthermore we've had a







variety of spells of different lengths and ranges of temperature and







wind come to that.







I think I am a "climate change effect on weather" denier.







Dave







For a tiny area like UK, I am of the same mind.



-----------------------------------------------------



I see weather as mostly affecting tiny areas, on a global scale,



whereever it is in the world.



Dave



Of course. And it is the sum of the tiny areas that provided the 1.6 billion pieces of data that BEST used, but my point (and I think yours) is that you cannot use an individual tiny area over the course of a short period of time, to say much, if anything at all, about the state of GW.



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