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On Saturday, 30 November 2013 19:13:59 UTC, Adam Lea wrote:
On 30/11/2013 14:57, Dave Cornwell wrote: Jim Cannon wrote: Thanks Keith. Before July I also noticed the similarities with 1962 - but then July proved warm and sunny, completely unlike the wet, cold and miserable summer of 1962. Obviously November has reverted to 'being like 1962'... Who knows - another 1963 style winter could happen but on past form the chance is 1 per cent. 1987 is obviously my yardstick for cold in my lifetime - but I can remember the midnight forecast on R4 all those years ago predicting 10C for Saunton Sands - while East Anglia stayed below freezing ------------------------------------------------------------- It's right up there. Being older of course I have 1963 but 1987 was something worthy of an Express headline. Am i right in assuming that Jan 1987 was more severe (in terms of low temperatures and snow depth) than Jan 2010. Was the significant snow as widespread as Jan 2010? In the SE Adam it was far more significant than ever December 2010 in terms of depth and longevity . In fact serious cold snowy spells in the SE going back purely from memory. 1997 1991 1989 1088 1985 81/82 pre Christmas 78/79 Christmas 1970 62/63 Plus other falls that are hazy unless I look them up. |
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Scott W writes: snip forecast Anyway, I hope some of you find it an interesting read. I did, thanks. It seems in good agreement with the Met Office's three month guidance for planners - which doesn't necessarily mean it's right, of course. ![]() I'll be revisiting it on March 1. That will be interesting. -- John Hall "He crams with cans of poisoned meat The subjects of the King, And when they die by thousands G.K.Chesterton: Why, he laughs like anything." from "Song Against Grocers" |
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On Saturday, 30 November 2013 20:00:26 UTC, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
On Saturday, 30 November 2013 19:13:59 UTC, Adam Lea wrote: On 30/11/2013 14:57, Dave Cornwell wrote: Jim Cannon wrote: Thanks Keith. Before July I also noticed the similarities with 1962 - but then July proved warm and sunny, completely unlike the wet, cold and miserable summer of 1962. Obviously November has reverted to 'being like 1962'... Who knows - another 1963 style winter could happen but on past form the chance is 1 per cent. 1987 is obviously my yardstick for cold in my lifetime - but I can remember the midnight forecast on R4 all those years ago predicting 10C for Saunton Sands - while East Anglia stayed below freezing ------------------------------------------------------------- It's right up there. Being older of course I have 1963 but 1987 was something worthy of an Express headline. Am i right in assuming that Jan 1987 was more severe (in terms of low temperatures and snow depth) than Jan 2010. Was the significant snow as widespread as Jan 2010? In the SE Adam it was far more significant than ever December 2010 in terms of depth and longevity . In fact serious cold snowy spells in the SE going back purely from memory. 1997 1991 1989 1088 1985 81/82 pre Christmas 78/79 Christmas 1970 62/63 Plus other falls that are hazy unless I look them up. Sorry scrub 89. |
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Lawrence Jenkins writes: What I remember most vividly about late Autumn 62 was fog and frost, ain't seen any fog yet although the air is infinitely much cleaner now. Yes. There was a very foggy spell in early December that year, and another one around the Solstice just before the east wind arrived and the winter really began. -- John Hall "He crams with cans of poisoned meat The subjects of the King, And when they die by thousands G.K.Chesterton: Why, he laughs like anything." from "Song Against Grocers" |
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Adam Lea wrote:
On 30/11/2013 14:57, Dave Cornwell wrote: Jim Cannon wrote: Thanks Keith. Before July I also noticed the similarities with 1962 - but then July proved warm and sunny, completely unlike the wet, cold and miserable summer of 1962. Obviously November has reverted to 'being like 1962'... Who knows - another 1963 style winter could happen but on past form the chance is 1 per cent. 1987 is obviously my yardstick for cold in my lifetime - but I can remember the midnight forecast on R4 all those years ago predicting 10C for Saunton Sands - while East Anglia stayed below freezing ------------------------------------------------------------- It's right up there. Being older of course I have 1963 but 1987 was something worthy of an Express headline. Am i right in assuming that Jan 1987 was more severe (in terms of low temperatures and snow depth) than Jan 2010. Was the significant snow as widespread as Jan 2010? -------------------------------------------------- John is right - a real blizzard in the S.E and extreme cold but not that long - which brings out my post a bit further down about cold winter perceptions - it's difficult to say with some of them. There was a tremendous wind chill because a strong northerly maintained after the heavy snowfall in sub-zero daytime maxima. December 2010 was not that special towards the S.E coast where I am but was more snowy and colder elsewhere in the S.E. Dave |
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Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
On Saturday, 30 November 2013 19:13:59 UTC, Adam Lea wrote: On 30/11/2013 14:57, Dave Cornwell wrote: Jim Cannon wrote: Thanks Keith. Before July I also noticed the similarities with 1962 - but then July proved warm and sunny, completely unlike the wet, cold and miserable summer of 1962. Obviously November has reverted to 'being like 1962'... Who knows - another 1963 style winter could happen but on past form the chance is 1 per cent. 1987 is obviously my yardstick for cold in my lifetime - but I can remember the midnight forecast on R4 all those years ago predicting 10C for Saunton Sands - while East Anglia stayed below freezing ------------------------------------------------------------- It's right up there. Being older of course I have 1963 but 1987 was something worthy of an Express headline. Am i right in assuming that Jan 1987 was more severe (in terms of low temperatures and snow depth) than Jan 2010. Was the significant snow as widespread as Jan 2010? In the SE Adam it was far more significant than ever December 2010 in terms of depth and longevity . In fact serious cold snowy spells in the SE going back purely from memory. 1997 1991 1989 1088 1985 81/82 pre Christmas 78/79 Christmas 1970 62/63 Plus other falls that are hazy unless I look them up. ------------------------------------------------------------------- 22 years on and William had another battle with the 1088 winter :-) |
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![]() Am i right in assuming that Jan 1987 was more severe (in terms of low temperatures and snow depth) than Jan 2010. Was the significant snow as widespread as Jan 2010? Far, far more severe here. Penzance 1987 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKXNwX5uipU Penzance recorded a record minimum of -9.9C on the night of 12/12 Jan '87 Graham Penzance |
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On Saturday, 30 November 2013 20:02:47 UTC, John Hall wrote:
In article , Lawrence Jenkins writes: What I remember most vividly about late Autumn 62 was fog and frost, ain't seen any fog yet although the air is infinitely much cleaner now. Yes. There was a very foggy spell in early December that year, and another one around the Solstice just before the east wind arrived and the winter really began. -- John Hall "He crams with cans of poisoned meat The subjects of the King, And when they die by thousands G.K.Chesterton: Why, he laughs like anything." from "Song Against Grocers" John: For London it wasn't just a foggy spell it was 'the' foggy spell and remarkably ten years after the 52 fog/smog. 62 smog/fog was almost equal to 1952; since then we have never had another spell quite like that. Probably the two worse post war and possibly pre war fog/smog events in the twentieth century to date; for London that is. |
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On 30/11/2013 20:48, Dave Cornwell wrote:
Lawrence Jenkins wrote: On Saturday, 30 November 2013 19:13:59 UTC, Adam Lea wrote: On 30/11/2013 14:57, Dave Cornwell wrote: Jim Cannon wrote: Thanks Keith. Before July I also noticed the similarities with 1962 - but then July proved warm and sunny, completely unlike the wet, cold and miserable summer of 1962. Obviously November has reverted to 'being like 1962'... Who knows - another 1963 style winter could happen but on past form the chance is 1 per cent. 1987 is obviously my yardstick for cold in my lifetime - but I can remember the midnight forecast on R4 all those years ago predicting 10C for Saunton Sands - while East Anglia stayed below freezing ------------------------------------------------------------- It's right up there. Being older of course I have 1963 but 1987 was something worthy of an Express headline. Am i right in assuming that Jan 1987 was more severe (in terms of low temperatures and snow depth) than Jan 2010. Was the significant snow as widespread as Jan 2010? In the SE Adam it was far more significant than ever December 2010 in terms of depth and longevity . In fact serious cold snowy spells in the SE going back purely from memory. 1997 1991 1989 1088 1985 81/82 pre Christmas 78/79 Christmas 1970 62/63 Plus other falls that are hazy unless I look them up. ------------------------------------------------------------------- 22 years on and William had another battle with the 1088 winter :-) Just proves that Larry is has old as as old as methuselah ;-) Did you see the Day of the Doctor last week Larry? |
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On Saturday, 30 November 2013 23:09:39 UTC, wrote:
On 30/11/2013 20:48, Dave Cornwell wrote: Lawrence Jenkins wrote: On Saturday, 30 November 2013 19:13:59 UTC, Adam Lea wrote: On 30/11/2013 14:57, Dave Cornwell wrote: Jim Cannon wrote: Thanks Keith. Before July I also noticed the similarities with 1962 - but then July proved warm and sunny, completely unlike the wet, cold and miserable summer of 1962. Obviously November has reverted to 'being like 1962'... Who knows - another 1963 style winter could happen but on past form the chance is 1 per cent. 1987 is obviously my yardstick for cold in my lifetime - but I can remember the midnight forecast on R4 all those years ago predicting 10C for Saunton Sands - while East Anglia stayed below freezing ------------------------------------------------------------- It's right up there. Being older of course I have 1963 but 1987 was something worthy of an Express headline. Am i right in assuming that Jan 1987 was more severe (in terms of low temperatures and snow depth) than Jan 2010. Was the significant snow as widespread as Jan 2010? In the SE Adam it was far more significant than ever December 2010 in terms of depth and longevity . In fact serious cold snowy spells in the SE going back purely from memory. 1997 1991 1989 1088 1985 81/82 pre Christmas 78/79 Christmas 1970 62/63 Plus other falls that are hazy unless I look them up. ------------------------------------------------------------------- 22 years on and William had another battle with the 1088 winter :-) Just proves that Larry is has old as as old as methuselah ;-) Did you see the Day of the Doctor last week Larry? Hey you cheeky sod, I've just turned 61 and I'm as fit as a fiddle a Stradivarius in fact. How old is that? I'm still trying to work out Dave's link to William -the *******......no not Dave , William the Horse chestnut |
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