On Saturday, 30 November 2013 19:13:59 UTC, Adam Lea wrote:
On 30/11/2013 14:57, Dave Cornwell wrote:

Jim Cannon wrote:

Thanks Keith. Before July I also noticed the similarities with 1962 -

but then July proved warm and sunny, completely unlike the wet, cold

and miserable summer of 1962. Obviously November has reverted to

'being like 1962'... Who knows - another 1963 style winter could

happen but on past form the chance is 1 per cent.



1987 is obviously my yardstick for cold in my lifetime - but I can

remember the midnight forecast on R4 all those years ago predicting

10C for Saunton Sands - while East Anglia stayed below freezing

-------------------------------------------------------------

It's right up there. Being older of course I have 1963 but 1987 was

something worthy of an Express headline.



Am i right in assuming that Jan 1987 was more severe (in terms of low

temperatures and snow depth) than Jan 2010. Was the significant snow as

widespread as Jan 2010?

In the SE Adam it was far more significant than ever December 2010 in terms of depth and longevity . In fact serious cold snowy spells in the SE going back purely from memory.

1997
1991
1989
1088
1985
81/82 pre Christmas
78/79
Christmas 1970
62/63

Plus other falls that are hazy unless I look them up.

In article ,
Scott W writes:

snip forecast
Anyway, I hope some of you find it an interesting read.

I did, thanks. It seems in good agreement with the Met Office's three
month guidance for planners - which doesn't necessarily mean it's right,
of course.

I'll be revisiting it on March 1.

That will be interesting.
--
John Hall "He crams with cans of poisoned meat
The subjects of the King,
And when they die by thousands G.K.Chesterton:
Why, he laughs like anything." from "Song Against Grocers"

On Saturday, 30 November 2013 20:00:26 UTC, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
On Saturday, 30 November 2013 19:13:59 UTC, Adam Lea wrote:

On 30/11/2013 14:57, Dave Cornwell wrote:



Jim Cannon wrote:



Thanks Keith. Before July I also noticed the similarities with 1962 -



but then July proved warm and sunny, completely unlike the wet, cold



and miserable summer of 1962. Obviously November has reverted to



'being like 1962'... Who knows - another 1963 style winter could



happen but on past form the chance is 1 per cent.







1987 is obviously my yardstick for cold in my lifetime - but I can



remember the midnight forecast on R4 all those years ago predicting



10C for Saunton Sands - while East Anglia stayed below freezing



-------------------------------------------------------------



It's right up there. Being older of course I have 1963 but 1987 was



something worthy of an Express headline.







Am i right in assuming that Jan 1987 was more severe (in terms of low



temperatures and snow depth) than Jan 2010. Was the significant snow as



widespread as Jan 2010?



In the SE Adam it was far more significant than ever December 2010 in terms of depth and longevity . In fact serious cold snowy spells in the SE going back purely from memory.



1997

1991

1989

1088

1985

81/82 pre Christmas

78/79

Christmas 1970

62/63



Plus other falls that are hazy unless I look them up.

Sorry scrub 89.

In article ,
Lawrence Jenkins writes:
What I remember most vividly about late Autumn 62 was fog and
frost, ain't seen any fog yet although the air is infinitely much
cleaner now.

Yes. There was a very foggy spell in early December that year, and
another one around the Solstice just before the east wind arrived and
the winter really began.
--
John Hall "He crams with cans of poisoned meat
The subjects of the King,
And when they die by thousands G.K.Chesterton:
Why, he laughs like anything." from "Song Against Grocers"

Adam Lea wrote:
On 30/11/2013 14:57, Dave Cornwell wrote:
Jim Cannon wrote:
Thanks Keith. Before July I also noticed the similarities with 1962 -
but then July proved warm and sunny, completely unlike the wet, cold
and miserable summer of 1962. Obviously November has reverted to
'being like 1962'... Who knows - another 1963 style winter could
happen but on past form the chance is 1 per cent.

1987 is obviously my yardstick for cold in my lifetime - but I can
remember the midnight forecast on R4 all those years ago predicting
10C for Saunton Sands - while East Anglia stayed below freezing
-------------------------------------------------------------
It's right up there. Being older of course I have 1963 but 1987 was
something worthy of an Express headline.

Am i right in assuming that Jan 1987 was more severe (in terms of low
temperatures and snow depth) than Jan 2010. Was the significant snow as
widespread as Jan 2010?
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John is right - a real blizzard in the S.E and extreme cold but not that
long - which brings out my post a bit further down about cold winter
perceptions - it's difficult to say with some of them. There was a
tremendous wind chill because a strong northerly maintained after the
heavy snowfall in sub-zero daytime maxima. December 2010 was not that
special towards the S.E coast where I am but was more snowy and colder
elsewhere in the S.E.
Dave

Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
On Saturday, 30 November 2013 19:13:59 UTC, Adam Lea wrote:
On 30/11/2013 14:57, Dave Cornwell wrote:

Jim Cannon wrote:
Thanks Keith. Before July I also noticed the similarities with 1962 -
but then July proved warm and sunny, completely unlike the wet, cold
and miserable summer of 1962. Obviously November has reverted to
'being like 1962'... Who knows - another 1963 style winter could
happen but on past form the chance is 1 per cent.
1987 is obviously my yardstick for cold in my lifetime - but I can
remember the midnight forecast on R4 all those years ago predicting
10C for Saunton Sands - while East Anglia stayed below freezing
-------------------------------------------------------------
It's right up there. Being older of course I have 1963 but 1987 was
something worthy of an Express headline.


Am i right in assuming that Jan 1987 was more severe (in terms of low

temperatures and snow depth) than Jan 2010. Was the significant snow as

widespread as Jan 2010?

In the SE Adam it was far more significant than ever December 2010 in terms of depth and longevity . In fact serious cold snowy spells in the SE going back purely from memory.

1997
1991
1989
1088
1985
81/82 pre Christmas
78/79
Christmas 1970
62/63

Plus other falls that are hazy unless I look them up.
-------------------------------------------------------------------
22 years on and William had another battle with the 1088 winter :-)

Am i right in assuming that Jan 1987 was more severe (in terms of low
temperatures and snow depth) than Jan 2010. Was the significant snow as
widespread as Jan 2010?

Far, far more severe here.

Penzance 1987 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKXNwX5uipU

Penzance recorded a record minimum of -9.9C on the night of 12/12 Jan '87

Graham
Penzance

On Saturday, 30 November 2013 20:02:47 UTC, John Hall wrote:
In article ,

Lawrence Jenkins writes:

What I remember most vividly about late Autumn 62 was fog and

frost, ain't seen any fog yet although the air is infinitely much

cleaner now.



Yes. There was a very foggy spell in early December that year, and

another one around the Solstice just before the east wind arrived and

the winter really began.

--

John Hall "He crams with cans of poisoned meat

The subjects of the King,

And when they die by thousands G.K.Chesterton:

Why, he laughs like anything." from "Song Against Grocers"

John: For London it wasn't just a foggy spell it was 'the' foggy spell and remarkably ten years after the 52 fog/smog. 62 smog/fog was almost equal to 1952; since then we have never had another spell quite like that. Probably the two worse post war and possibly pre war fog/smog events in the twentieth century to date; for London that is.

On 30/11/2013 20:48, Dave Cornwell wrote:
Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
On Saturday, 30 November 2013 19:13:59 UTC, Adam Lea wrote:
On 30/11/2013 14:57, Dave Cornwell wrote:

Jim Cannon wrote:
Thanks Keith. Before July I also noticed the similarities with 1962 -
but then July proved warm and sunny, completely unlike the wet, cold
and miserable summer of 1962. Obviously November has reverted to
'being like 1962'... Who knows - another 1963 style winter could
happen but on past form the chance is 1 per cent.
1987 is obviously my yardstick for cold in my lifetime - but I can
remember the midnight forecast on R4 all those years ago predicting
10C for Saunton Sands - while East Anglia stayed below freezing
-------------------------------------------------------------
It's right up there. Being older of course I have 1963 but 1987 was
something worthy of an Express headline.


Am i right in assuming that Jan 1987 was more severe (in terms of low
temperatures and snow depth) than Jan 2010. Was the significant snow as
widespread as Jan 2010?

In the SE Adam it was far more significant than ever December 2010 in
terms of depth and longevity . In fact serious cold snowy spells in
the SE going back purely from memory.

1997
1991
1989
1088
1985
81/82 pre Christmas
78/79
Christmas 1970
62/63

Plus other falls that are hazy unless I look them up.
-------------------------------------------------------------------
22 years on and William had another battle with the 1088 winter :-)

Just proves that Larry is has old as as old as methuselah ;-)

Did you see the Day of the Doctor last week Larry?

On Saturday, 30 November 2013 23:09:39 UTC, wrote:
On 30/11/2013 20:48, Dave Cornwell wrote:

Lawrence Jenkins wrote:

On Saturday, 30 November 2013 19:13:59 UTC, Adam Lea wrote:

On 30/11/2013 14:57, Dave Cornwell wrote:



Jim Cannon wrote:

Thanks Keith. Before July I also noticed the similarities with 1962 -

but then July proved warm and sunny, completely unlike the wet, cold

and miserable summer of 1962. Obviously November has reverted to

'being like 1962'... Who knows - another 1963 style winter could

happen but on past form the chance is 1 per cent.

1987 is obviously my yardstick for cold in my lifetime - but I can

remember the midnight forecast on R4 all those years ago predicting

10C for Saunton Sands - while East Anglia stayed below freezing

-------------------------------------------------------------

It's right up there. Being older of course I have 1963 but 1987 was

something worthy of an Express headline.





Am i right in assuming that Jan 1987 was more severe (in terms of low

temperatures and snow depth) than Jan 2010. Was the significant snow as

widespread as Jan 2010?



In the SE Adam it was far more significant than ever December 2010 in

terms of depth and longevity . In fact serious cold snowy spells in

the SE going back purely from memory.



1997

1991

1989

1088

1985

81/82 pre Christmas

78/79

Christmas 1970

62/63



Plus other falls that are hazy unless I look them up.

-------------------------------------------------------------------

22 years on and William had another battle with the 1088 winter :-)



Just proves that Larry is has old as as old as methuselah ;-)



Did you see the Day of the Doctor last week Larry?


Hey you cheeky sod, I've just turned 61 and I'm as fit as a fiddle a Stradivarius in fact. How old is that?

I'm still trying to work out Dave's link to William -the *******......no not Dave , William the Horse chestnut