http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/e...arctic-sea-ice

On Tuesday, 31 December 2013 18:42:53 UTC, b wrote:

http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/e...arctic-sea-ice

Big Deal! Weather strikes ship. That never happens to climate realists?
And b stands for blitherer?

You are not dawlish by any chance?
(We'll soon find out if you are the real thing.)

On Tuesday, 31 December 2013 18:42:53 UTC, b wrote:
http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/e...arctic-sea-ice

Yes it really is delicious irony for a bunch of so called young smart no nothings who treated the Antarctic like it was an x-box game, with a party, sloppy attitude and gung ho attitude towards reality with a snug ideological almost religious fervour that 'of course humans have melted all the ice how can we be in danger if was far worse when Mawson, Shackleton, Admundsen and Scott adventured there'.

I've noticed with the AGW crowd how young, arrogant and cock-sure they seem to be with their blogs oozing contempt for those that have seen it all before. I've seen parallels with this in the industry I work in but I'm not at liberty to divulge that yet, but funnily enough I was discussing it with a colleague earlier today.

If people think I'm being unfair on these people than ponder this: This 'ship of fools' taxpayer funded is filled to the brim with ideologues such as I believe the Greenpeace president tow Guardian arrogant know it all's al no sweet FA yet they berate everyone else for doing the very same things that they've been doing.

One wonders how much fossil fuel, time and energy has been expended in rescuing these hate filled idiots from their jolly junket that has ended in farce . The modern world and capitalism that these fools so readily despise, saved their sorry arses due to technology that the last hundred years in primarily the great hated capitalist west has produced. For Scott there was no "hold on a moment Oats I'll send a message on my I-Pad".


These people are an arrogant disgrace with nothing but contempt for all those older people they see as having caused the so called enviromental AGW disaster.


Its a bit like parents telling their kids not to run into the road or at a later level steer clear of drugs and these idiots who tend to be the AGW activist movement saying "get stuffed old timers what do you know , **** off"..

A friend of mine has a boat moored at Reading on the Thames and every year he tells the same story of young idiots jumping of bridges into a very cold Thames and in many cases drowning because they were lulled by sunny conditions and a contempt for people that had seen it all before.


Back to the 'Ship of Fools'. I would love to take all their hated technology away from them , radio, telephones and emails, their oil based nylon jump suits and waterproofs and say stick with your principles and now get on with it by yourselves.

Complete idiocy. Go on someone, tell me it's not.

On Tuesday, 31 December 2013 19:27:31 UTC, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
On Tuesday, 31 December 2013 18:42:53 UTC, b wrote:

http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/e...arctic-sea-ice



Yes it really is delicious irony for a bunch of so called young smart no nothings who treated the Antarctic like it was an x-box game, with a party, sloppy attitude and gung ho attitude towards reality with a snug ideological almost religious fervour that 'of course humans have melted all the ice how can we be in danger if was far worse when Mawson, Shackleton, Admundsen and Scott adventured there'.



I've noticed with the AGW crowd how young, arrogant and cock-sure they seem to be with their blogs oozing contempt for those that have seen it all before. I've seen parallels with this in the industry I work in but I'm not at liberty to divulge that yet, but funnily enough I was discussing it with a colleague earlier today.



If people think I'm being unfair on these people than ponder this: This 'ship of fools' taxpayer funded is filled to the brim with ideologues such as I believe the Greenpeace president tow Guardian arrogant know it all's al no sweet FA yet they berate everyone else for doing the very same things that they've been doing.



One wonders how much fossil fuel, time and energy has been expended in rescuing these hate filled idiots from their jolly junket that has ended in farce . The modern world and capitalism that these fools so readily despise, saved their sorry arses due to technology that the last hundred years in primarily the great hated capitalist west has produced. For Scott there was no "hold on a moment Oats I'll send a message on my I-Pad".





These people are an arrogant disgrace with nothing but contempt for all those older people they see as having caused the so called enviromental AGW disaster.





Its a bit like parents telling their kids not to run into the road or at a later level steer clear of drugs and these idiots who tend to be the AGW activist movement saying "get stuffed old timers what do you know , **** off".



A friend of mine has a boat moored at Reading on the Thames and every year he tells the same story of young idiots jumping of bridges into a very cold Thames and in many cases drowning because they were lulled by sunny conditions and a contempt for people that had seen it all before.





Back to the 'Ship of Fools'. I would love to take all their hated technology away from them , radio, telephones and emails, their oil based nylon jump suits and waterproofs and say stick with your principles and now get on with it by yourselves.

Further to: I had to laugh at the Green Peace activist who all feel we use too much energy and so forth and that we should stop immediately to save some imaginary world. Well when they were rightfully incarcerated by the Russian authorities, as Jonesy would say 'They didn't like it up um'.

No what would have been the carbon energy foot print ideal of an old Soviet Gulag had them squealing like little piggy's just wanting to get back home to central heating and hot water.

On Tuesday, 31 December 2013 19:39:50 UTC, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
On Tuesday, 31 December 2013 19:27:31 UTC, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:

On Tuesday, 31 December 2013 18:42:53 UTC, b wrote:



http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/e...arctic-sea-ice







Yes it really is delicious irony for a bunch of so called young smart no nothings who treated the Antarctic like it was an x-box game, with a party, sloppy attitude and gung ho attitude towards reality with a snug ideological almost religious fervour that 'of course humans have melted all the ice how can we be in danger if was far worse when Mawson, Shackleton, Admundsen and Scott adventured there'.







I've noticed with the AGW crowd how young, arrogant and cock-sure they seem to be with their blogs oozing contempt for those that have seen it all before. I've seen parallels with this in the industry I work in but I'm not at liberty to divulge that yet, but funnily enough I was discussing it with a colleague earlier today.







If people think I'm being unfair on these people than ponder this: This 'ship of fools' taxpayer funded is filled to the brim with ideologues such as I believe the Greenpeace president tow Guardian arrogant know it all's al no sweet FA yet they berate everyone else for doing the very same things that they've been doing.







One wonders how much fossil fuel, time and energy has been expended in rescuing these hate filled idiots from their jolly junket that has ended in farce . The modern world and capitalism that these fools so readily despise, saved their sorry arses due to technology that the last hundred years in primarily the great hated capitalist west has produced. For Scott there was no "hold on a moment Oats I'll send a message on my I-Pad".











These people are an arrogant disgrace with nothing but contempt for all those older people they see as having caused the so called enviromental AGW disaster.











Its a bit like parents telling their kids not to run into the road or at a later level steer clear of drugs and these idiots who tend to be the AGW activist movement saying "get stuffed old timers what do you know , **** off".







A friend of mine has a boat moored at Reading on the Thames and every year he tells the same story of young idiots jumping of bridges into a very cold Thames and in many cases drowning because they were lulled by sunny conditions and a contempt for people that had seen it all before.











Back to the 'Ship of Fools'. I would love to take all their hated technology away from them , radio, telephones and emails, their oil based nylon jump suits and waterproofs and say stick with your principles and now get on with it by yourselves.



Further to: I had to laugh at the Green Peace activist who all feel we use too much energy and so forth and that we should stop immediately to save some imaginary world. Well when they were rightfully incarcerated by the Russian authorities, as Jonesy would say 'They didn't like it up um'.



No what would have been the carbon energy foot print ideal of an old Soviet Gulag had them squealing like little piggy's just wanting to get back home to central heating and hot water.

Further to further to. There is a fate far worse than being incarcerated in a austere , freezing cold old Uncle Joe labour camp and that is being made to share a cell or hut with Dawlish and two of his socks, yes a pair of crusty old socks......................................... Denis and Malcolm.

On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 11:36:20 -0800 (PST), Dawlish wrote:

Complete idiocy. Go on someone, tell me it's not.

Which the article or Lawrence's post?

Both are complete ******** as far as I can tell. To balance wander
across to the BBC World Service - Discovery and listen to the
podcasts (up to 3 of 4) so far.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/discovery

Mawson did real science down there for two years. He left a base line
of data aginst which modern measurements/observations can be
compared. Mawson was also lucky, very lucky, to survive.

As for the sea ice, there is are socking great ice bergs (small
european country sized) disrupting the movement of ice in the region
of Commonwealth
Bay.

http://www.kgw.com/lifestyle/green/G...Commonwealth-B
ay-in-Antarctic-135195463.html

And our favorite
rag:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...ceberg-size-Lu
xembourg-plunge-Europe-cold-winters.html

And there is also a theory that melt water from East Antarctica being
less dense and of a higher freezing point than sea water means that
more sea ice forms that can't escape to the open ocean because of the
bergs...

--
Cheers Dave.
Nr Garrigill, Cumbria. 421m ASL.

On Tuesday, 31 December 2013 20:37:05 UTC, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 11:36:20 -0800 (PST), Dawlish wrote:



Complete idiocy. Go on someone, tell me it's not.



Which the article or Lawrence's post?



Both are complete ******** as far as I can tell. To balance wander

across to the BBC World Service - Discovery and listen to the

podcasts (up to 3 of 4) so far.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/discovery



Mawson did real science down there for two years. He left a base line

of data aginst which modern measurements/observations can be

compared. Mawson was also lucky, very lucky, to survive.



As for the sea ice, there is are socking great ice bergs (small

european country sized) disrupting the movement of ice in the region

of Commonwealth

Bay.



http://www.kgw.com/lifestyle/green/G...Commonwealth-B

ay-in-Antarctic-135195463.html



And our favorite

rag:



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...ceberg-size-Lu

xembourg-plunge-Europe-cold-winters.html



And there is also a theory that melt water from East Antarctica being

less dense and of a higher freezing point than sea water means that

more sea ice forms that can't escape to the open ocean because of the

bergs...



--

Cheers Dave.

Nr Garrigill, Cumbria. 421m ASL.

Lets get this straight Dave : does global warming mean more sea ice or less sea ice FFS this is just farcical. And I talk ********? Have you measured this with the ******** meter because you've just sent it off the scale.

On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 12:55:34 -0800 (PST), Lawrence Jenkins
wrote:
And I talk ********?

Yes.

--
Freddie
Castle Pulverbatch
Shropshire
221m AMSL
http://www.hosiene.co.uk/weather/
http://twitter.com/PulverbatchWx for hourly reports

"Freddie" wrote in message
.net...
On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 12:55:34 -0800 (PST), Lawrence Jenkins
wrote:
And I talk ********?

Yes.

Thanks Freddie,

That saves me trying to explain to Lawrence why a sudden change in wind
direction can cause disaster for a ship, and a future change in prevailing
wind direction could cause disaster for an island race.

Cheers, Alastair.