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I can't quite make it out, apparently there's a pattern but I can't see it!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...tok_Petit_data
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On Wednesday, 29 January 2014 22:54:45 UTC, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
With this chart



I can't quite make it out, apparently there's a pattern but I can't see it!



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...tok_Petit_data


upload?

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The given path of the specified thumbnail is incorrect; expected 'b/b8/Vostok_Petit_data.svg/1200px-Vostok_Petit_data.svg.png' but got 'b/b8/Vostok_Petit_data.svg/1200px-Vostok_Petit_data'.
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On Wednesday, 29 January 2014 23:18:06 UTC, Weatherlawyer wrote:
On Wednesday, 29 January 2014 22:54:45 UTC, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:

With this chart








I can't quite make it out, apparently there's a pattern but I can't see it!








http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...tok_Petit_data




upload?



Error generating thumbnail



The given path of the specified thumbnail is incorrect; expected 'b/b8/Vostok_Petit_data.svg/1200px-Vostok_Petit_data.svg.png' but got 'b/b8/Vostok_Petit_data.svg/1200px-Vostok_Petit_data'.


Ah:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:V...Petit_data.svg

Simple in both senses of the word except where the term glowballs meets the word sense that is.

The diagramme purports to corroborate the various disguises of one Paul Garvey aka Dawlish. The graphs show that all characters have similar Intelligent Quotients. Starting at zero near birth then increasing until the accident (possibly he was choked by a delivery nurse who wanted to spare the mother.)

The IQ's of all concerned fall through the floor perhaps due to the hospital contractor who was drilling through the concrete at the time of his antenatal treatment and wanted to make use of the samples his mother brought in, not realising they were human. (A difficulty it is easy to appreciated.)

It is interesting that so few documented cases of spontaneous regeneration had taken place en-condom until Garvey was noticed. This ability of subhuman life forms to develop in such a manner possibly explains its plethora on Usenet.

Unfortunately the sub IQ these specimens attain has led to widespread medical belief that they are one and the same horefish. Many have attempted to put forward methods for eradicating the tripe-ditch but nobody has yet come forward with the right apparatus for doing so without getting their feet dirty.

It is to be hoped a strong solution will be found in the future.

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On Wednesday, 29 January 2014 23:35:40 UTC, Weatherlawyer wrote:
On Wednesday, 29 January 2014 23:18:06 UTC, Weatherlawyer wrote:

On Wednesday, 29 January 2014 22:54:45 UTC, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:




With this chart
















I can't quite make it out, apparently there's a pattern but I can't see it!
















http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...tok_Petit_data








upload?








Error generating thumbnail








The given path of the specified thumbnail is incorrect; expected 'b/b8/Vostok_Petit_data.svg/1200px-Vostok_Petit_data.svg.png' but got 'b/b8/Vostok_Petit_data.svg/1200px-Vostok_Petit_data'.




Ah:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:V...Petit_data.svg



Simple in both senses of the word except where the term glowballs meets the word sense that is.



The diagramme purports to corroborate the various disguises of one Paul Garvey aka Dawlish. The graphs show that all characters have similar Intelligent Quotients. Starting at zero near birth then increasing until the accident (possibly he was choked by a delivery nurse who wanted to spare the mother.)



The IQ's of all concerned fall through the floor perhaps due to the hospital contractor who was drilling through the concrete at the time of his antenatal treatment and wanted to make use of the samples his mother brought in, not realising they were human. (A difficulty it is easy to appreciated.)



It is interesting that so few documented cases of spontaneous regeneration had taken place en-condom until Garvey was noticed. This ability of subhuman life forms to develop in such a manner possibly explains its plethora on Usenet.



Unfortunately the sub IQ these specimens attain has led to widespread medical belief that they are one and the same horefish. Many have attempted to put forward methods for eradicating the tripe-ditch but nobody has yet come forward with the right apparatus for doing so without getting their feet dirty.



It is to be hoped a strong solution will be found in the future.


That's the one -thank you Michael
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Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
Based on those graphs and your views I think you know what you think
happens next! Of course as the scale is in thousannds of years it may
take 5000 years to follow the previous pattern. Then again it may keep
going if this is a different pattern!
Dave


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On Thursday, 30 January 2014 12:00:48 UTC, Dave Cornwell wrote:

Based on those graphs and your views I think you know what you think
happens next! Of course as the scale is in thousands of years it may
take 5000 years to follow the previous pattern. Then again it may keep
going if this is a different pattern!


You mean a solution is to bury Dawlish and his phantom hoard in a freezing pond near Vostock?

For thousands of years?

OK.
Only so long as he never gets to feel at home. If he starts sprouting and any climatologists get near him....!!!!
What's all this about patterns?
There is only one of the *******. Mind you the others do have a recurring dawlisness about them, don't they.


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On Thursday, 30 January 2014 12:00:48 UTC, Dave Cornwell wrote:
Lawrence Jenkins wrote:

Based on those graphs and your views I think you know what you think

happens next! Of course as the scale is in thousannds of years it may

take 5000 years to follow the previous pattern. Then again it may keep

going if this is a different pattern!

Dave


What do you think would happen next Dave if humans hadn't released those 100 parts of c02 per million of atmosphere.

I have to say it's hard to know whether those ice core proxies have any value at all?

We are constantly being told to trust the AGW science but do we trust the science where those ice core samples are concerned, I mean looking at those 4 major glaciations and the five inter glacials over what 450.000 years; well if we do trust that science as well then we are in very deep trouble anytime in the near future and if anything, if co2 is having a profound warming effect on the planets lower atmosphere then the human race just got very lucky.

As I've said if we trust the science then those ice core samples are absolutely compelling that our near future look likely to become very cold indeed.
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"Lawrence Jenkins" wrote:

With this chart

I can't quite make it out, apparently there's a pattern but I can't see
it!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...tok_Petit_data


Hi Lawrence

Scientists are pretty confident that the main driver of these
glacial/interglacial cycles is high northern latitude summer insolation.

Changing distribution and timing of insolation means that during some
periods, there is not enough summer sunshine in the far north to melt all
the ice and snow that accumulated during winter, so the trend is for ice
cover to expand over the course of thousands of years. By the time it
reaches glacial maximum, we have ice sheets covering much of the northern
half of North America, the UK, Europe etc.

When summer insolation increases again, more ice melts during summer than
accumulates during winter, so the glaciers and ice sheets recede.

The ice cover is a strong feedback but the driving force is the change in
insolation. Also, atmospheric greenhouse gases rise and fall over the
course of these cycles - another natural feedback which amplifies the change
in insolation.

You can see the declining summer insolation over the last few thousand
years, he

http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/...408384610.jpeg

Since high northern latitude summer insolation is still declining (just),
you would expect global temperature to still be going down, as it has been
since the Holocene Thermal Maximum. What's actually happened is this:

http://tamino.files.wordpress.com/20...gemcrufull.jpg

The cause of the glaringly anomalous warming of the last century or so is
(glaringly) obvious:

http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/...876055879.jpeg

i.e. we're causing it.

The Arctic is receiving 9% less summer insolation than it did during the
Holocene Thermal Maximum and therefore on the basis of natural forcings
alone it ought to be cooling, and the ice ought to be expanding. Instead,
it's warming rapidly and the ice cover is shrinking rapidly -

http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/...284630153.jpeg

http://www.skepticalscience.com/grap...ea_ice_med.jpg

http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/...646038103.jpeg

There is *no* plausible doubt that this is due to our huge emissions of
greenhouse gases. None at all.

So the answer to your question of "what happens next?" is: That depends on
us.

http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/...heelchair1.png

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On Thursday, 30 January 2014 15:58:07 UTC, Togless wrote:
"Lawrence Jenkins" wrote:



With this chart




I can't quite make it out, apparently there's a pattern but I can't see


it!




http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...tok_Petit_data




Hi Lawrence



Scientists are pretty confident that the main driver of these

glacial/interglacial cycles is high northern latitude summer insolation.



Changing distribution and timing of insolation means that during some

periods, there is not enough summer sunshine in the far north to melt all

the ice and snow that accumulated during winter, so the trend is for ice

cover to expand over the course of thousands of years. By the time it

reaches glacial maximum, we have ice sheets covering much of the northern

half of North America, the UK, Europe etc.



When summer insolation increases again, more ice melts during summer than

accumulates during winter, so the glaciers and ice sheets recede.



The ice cover is a strong feedback but the driving force is the change in

insolation. Also, atmospheric greenhouse gases rise and fall over the

course of these cycles - another natural feedback which amplifies the change

in insolation.



You can see the declining summer insolation over the last few thousand

years, he



http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/...408384610.jpeg



Since high northern latitude summer insolation is still declining (just),

you would expect global temperature to still be going down, as it has been

since the Holocene Thermal Maximum. What's actually happened is this:



http://tamino.files.wordpress.com/20...gemcrufull.jpg



The cause of the glaringly anomalous warming of the last century or so is

(glaringly) obvious:



http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/...876055879.jpeg



i.e. we're causing it.



The Arctic is receiving 9% less summer insolation than it did during the

Holocene Thermal Maximum and therefore on the basis of natural forcings

alone it ought to be cooling, and the ice ought to be expanding. Instead,

it's warming rapidly and the ice cover is shrinking rapidly -



http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/...284630153.jpeg



http://www.skepticalscience.com/grap...ea_ice_med.jpg



http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/...646038103.jpeg



There is *no* plausible doubt that this is due to our huge emissions of

greenhouse gases. None at all.



So the answer to your question of "what happens next?" is: That depends on

us.



http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/...heelchair1.png


That's a lot of links to come out of a bog in Vostok. You got all that from a few slices of sylvan paradise postponed?


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