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I've just been having an esoteric moment which usually means that I am
about to spout rubbish so feel free to tell me so!

A lot of our extreme records, although fact, tend to relate to the
impact they have had on us. But the weather itself isn't interested in
what effect it has on us. So scientists are racking their brains
deciding whether this purely arbitary period of January and February
exceptional rainfall might be related to climate change. But what if I
were to tell you that last July and August was the least windy period in
the UK for 250 years? Who would know that? But would it be any less
significant in its requirement to be studied as a possible link to
climate change? The thing that has occured to me during this thought is
that is it also surprising that so many weather records seem to be being
broken? As far as I know there aren't a specific set of records like the
Olympic records. So you can pull any combination of time periods , any
of the many weather variables and any location you like and there will
be a record broken for a greater or lesser chosen time period!
The joys of being retired (fully now!) :-)
Dave

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Dave Cornwell wrote:

I've just been having an esoteric moment which usually means that I am about
to spout rubbish so feel free to tell me so!

A lot of our extreme records, although fact, tend to relate to the impact
they have had on us. But the weather itself isn't interested in what effect
it has on us. So scientists are racking their brains deciding whether this
purely arbitary period of January and February exceptional rainfall might be
related to climate change. But what if I were to tell you that last July and
August was the least windy period in the UK for 250 years? Who would know
that? But would it be any less significant in its requirement to be studied
as a possible link to climate change? The thing that has occured to me during
this thought is that is it also surprising that so many weather records seem
to be being broken? As far as I know there aren't a specific set of records
like the Olympic records. So you can pull any combination of time periods ,
any of the many weather variables and any location you like and there will be
a record broken for a greater or lesser chosen time period! The joys of
being retired (fully now!) :-) Dave


I think I see what you're getting at, Dave, but that's the joy of the subject!
There's a lot of similarity between the love of obscure weather records and the
love of obscure cricket records. There's always someone who can say when the
last time was that someone scored a century at Trent Bridge in a day when
batting at number 8 after having taken 5 for 30 - or some other such obscure
record.

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On 13 Feb 2014 20:25:33 GMT
"Norman" wrote:

Dave Cornwell wrote:

I've just been having an esoteric moment which usually means that I
am about to spout rubbish so feel free to tell me so!

A lot of our extreme records, although fact, tend to relate to the
impact they have had on us. But the weather itself isn't interested
in what effect it has on us. So scientists are racking their brains
deciding whether this purely arbitary period of January and
February exceptional rainfall might be related to climate change.
But what if I were to tell you that last July and August was the
least windy period in the UK for 250 years? Who would know that?
But would it be any less significant in its requirement to be
studied as a possible link to climate change? The thing that has
occured to me during this thought is that is it also surprising
that so many weather records seem to be being broken? As far as I
know there aren't a specific set of records like the Olympic
records. So you can pull any combination of time periods , any of
the many weather variables and any location you like and there will
be a record broken for a greater or lesser chosen time period! The
joys of being retired (fully now!) :-) Dave


I think I see what you're getting at, Dave, but that's the joy of the
subject! There's a lot of similarity between the love of obscure
weather records and the love of obscure cricket records. There's
always someone who can say when the last time was that someone scored
a century at Trent Bridge in a day when batting at number 8 after
having taken 5 for 30 - or some other such obscure record.


Well, that should keep Dave quiet for a while whilst he hunts around
Cricinfo to see if that actually happened. ;-)

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"Welcome to the year of the whores. People around the globe celebrate."
- BBC News subtitle



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In article ,
Norman writes:
There's a lot of similarity between the love of obscure weather
records and the love of obscure cricket records. There's always
someone who can say when the last time was that someone
scored a century at Trent Bridge in a day when batting at number
8 after having taken 5 for 30 - or some other such obscure record.


Perhaps that's why I see so many people on here who are also familiar to
me from uk.sport.cricket
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The subjects of the King,
And when they die by thousands G.K.Chesterton:
Why, he laughs like anything." from "Song Against Grocers"
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In article ,
Norman writes:
There's a lot of similarity between the love of obscure weather
records and the love of obscure cricket records. There's always
someone who can say when the last time was that someone
scored a century at Trent Bridge in a day when batting at number
8 after having taken 5 for 30 - or some other such obscure record.


Perhaps that's why I see so many people on here who are also familiar to
me from uk.sport.cricket


It's the stats isn't it?
Some interests by their very nature attract more statistical analysis
than others. So people could be interested in very different things
at least partially for that reason.

Like the weather and the charts for example.
--
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Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl
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On 13/02/2014 21:26, Col wrote:
"John Hall" wrote in message
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In article ,
Norman writes:
There's a lot of similarity between the love of obscure weather
records and the love of obscure cricket records. There's always
someone who can say when the last time was that someone
scored a century at Trent Bridge in a day when batting at number
8 after having taken 5 for 30 - or some other such obscure record.


Perhaps that's why I see so many people on here who are also familiar to
me from uk.sport.cricket


It's the stats isn't it?
Some interests by their very nature attract more statistical analysis
than others. So people could be interested in very different things
at least partially for that reason.

Like the weather and the charts for example.


It's definitely the statistical aspects of each, that appeal to me.



--

Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
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Vidcapper wrote:
On 13/02/2014 21:26, Col wrote:
"John Hall" wrote in message
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In article ,
Norman writes:
There's a lot of similarity between the love of obscure weather
records and the love of obscure cricket records. There's always
someone who can say when the last time was that someone
scored a century at Trent Bridge in a day when batting at number
8 after having taken 5 for 30 - or some other such obscure record.

Perhaps that's why I see so many people on here who are also familiar to
me from uk.sport.cricket


It's the stats isn't it?
Some interests by their very nature attract more statistical analysis
than others. So people could be interested in very different things
at least partially for that reason.

Like the weather and the charts for example.


It's definitely the statistical aspects of each, that appeal to me.



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By the way, did you notice Williamson was "out" twice to a no ball off
the same bowler, Sharma, yesterday. Now when did that last happen? ;-)
Dave
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"Vidcapper" wrote in message
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On 13/02/2014 21:26, Col wrote:
"John Hall" wrote in message
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In article ,
Norman writes:
There's a lot of similarity between the love of obscure weather
records and the love of obscure cricket records. There's always
someone who can say when the last time was that someone
scored a century at Trent Bridge in a day when batting at number
8 after having taken 5 for 30 - or some other such obscure record.

Perhaps that's why I see so many people on here who are also familiar to
me from uk.sport.cricket


It's the stats isn't it?
Some interests by their very nature attract more statistical analysis
than others. So people could be interested in very different things
at least partially for that reason.

Like the weather and the charts for example.


It's definitely the statistical aspects of each, that appeal to me.


Yes, I remember you saying that and had you in mind when I posted
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Bolton, Lancashire
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http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3QvmL4UWBmHFMKWiwYm_gg


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On 14/02/2014 17:59, Col wrote:


It's the stats isn't it?
Some interests by their very nature attract more statistical analysis
than others. So people could be interested in very different things
at least partially for that reason.

Like the weather and the charts for example.


It's definitely the statistical aspects of each, that appeal to me.


Yes, I remember you saying that and had you in mind when I posted


I kinda guessed that from the 'charts' bit.


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Paul Hyett, Cheltenham


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