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The Max Clifford of AGW bloggers is telling us how warm the global temperatures have been. Nope folks February UAH data shows the cooling trend of four years and the plateau of the 18 years shows no major trend either way. Maybe that's why the Phantom Ofsted Blower of Dartmoor is strangley silent on this one.




Could it be that 80ppm that humans have put into the atmosphere has reached a saturation point where it no longer has any effect on catastrophic warming.

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On Thursday, March 6, 2014 7:42:00 PM UTC, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
The Max Clifford of AGW bloggers is telling us how warm the global temperatures have been. Nope folks February UAH data shows the cooling trend of four years and the plateau of the 18 years shows no major trend either way.


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You simply don't know what you are talking about. Feb was the 9th warmest in the UAH record. All those warmest Februaries have occurred since 1997. In addition, the context of this warmth is that currently there are cooler than average temperatures across the ENSO regions, as there have been for almost the whole f the last 3 years and the PDO in a cool phase. Every indicator points to the fact that the globe should be cooler than it is, yet we are close to record global temperatures. The reason is an underlying warming trend which is almost certainly caused by anthropogenic releases of CO2 - a view with which almost every single scientist and every single National science academy on earth concurs.

Please do some research and learn a little, at least, before posting and making yourself look like a denialist idiot.


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On Thursday, 6 March 2014 20:05:23 UTC, Dawlish wrote:
On Thursday, March 6, 2014 7:42:00 PM UTC, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:

The Max Clifford of AGW bloggers is telling us how warm the global temperatures have been. Nope folks February UAH data shows the cooling trend of four years and the plateau of the 18 years shows no major trend either way..




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You simply don't know what you are talking about. Feb was the 9th warmest in the UAH record. All those warmest Februaries have occurred since 1997. In addition, the context of this warmth is that currently there are cooler than average temperatures across the ENSO regions, as there have been for almost the whole f the last 3 years and the PDO in a cool phase. Every indicator points to the fact that the globe should be cooler than it is, yet we are close to record global temperatures. The reason is an underlying warming trend which is almost certainly caused by anthropogenic releases of CO2 - a view with which almost every single scientist and every single National science academy on earth concurs.



Please do some research and learn a little, at least, before posting and making yourself look like a denialist idiot.



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On Thursday, March 6, 2014 8:07:17 PM UTC, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
On Thursday, 6 March 2014 20:05:23 UTC, Dawlish wrote:

On Thursday, March 6, 2014 7:42:00 PM UTC, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:




The Max Clifford of AGW bloggers is telling us how warm the global temperatures have been. Nope folks February UAH data shows the cooling trend of four years and the plateau of the 18 years shows no major trend either way.








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You simply don't know what you are talking about. Feb was the 9th warmest in the UAH record. All those warmest Februaries have occurred since 1997.. In addition, the context of this warmth is that currently there are cooler than average temperatures across the ENSO regions, as there have been for almost the whole f the last 3 years and the PDO in a cool phase. Every indicator points to the fact that the globe should be cooler than it is, yet we are close to record global temperatures. The reason is an underlying warming trend which is almost certainly caused by anthropogenic releases of CO2 - a view with which almost every single scientist and every single National science academy on earth concurs.








Please do some research and learn a little, at least, before posting and making yourself look like a denialist idiot.






Are you endangered due to Climate Change Mr Chips?


Well there you go. When your posts are challenged, you cannot respond. You could, however, try the usual foul-mouthed insults, veiled threats and outright lies, instead of the idiot deflections larry; they usually work well, don't they?

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Could it be that 80ppm that humans have put into the atmosphere
has reached a saturation point where it no longer has any effect
on catastrophic warming.


I think that the short answer is: no, it couldn't.
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On Thursday, 6 March 2014 20:50:23 UTC, John Hall wrote:
In article ,

Lawrence Jenkins writes:

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Could it be that 80ppm that humans have put into the atmosphere


has reached a saturation point where it no longer has any effect


on catastrophic warming.




I think that the short answer is: no, it couldn't.

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So its a linear process doubling co2 twice the effect.
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On Thursday, 6 March 2014 20:58:36 UTC, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
On Thursday, 6 March 2014 20:50:23 UTC, John Hall wrote: In article , Lawrence Jenkins writes: snip Could it be that 80ppm that humans have put into the atmosphere has reached a saturation point where it no longer has any effect on catastrophic warming. I think that the short answer is: no, it couldn't. -- John Hall


So its a linear process doubling co2 twice the effect.

There is a temperature response to a CO2 increase. It doesn't have to be linear for there to be a response. In fact it is known that the response is *not* linear but that doesn't negate the view that excess CO2 causes warming.

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So its a linear process doubling co2 twice the effect.


Is it not an *exponential* process, beyond a certain point at least.
You reach a certain level, a 'tipping point' if you like and you get
runaway warming.
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On 07/03/2014 05:19, Col wrote:
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So its a linear process doubling co2 twice the effect.


Is it not an *exponential* process, beyond a certain point at least.
You reach a certain level, a 'tipping point' if you like and you get
runaway warming.

That's why nobody books holidays on Venus.

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On Friday, 7 March 2014 07:52:55 UTC, vidcapper wrote:
On 07/03/2014 05:19, Col wrote: "Lawrence Jenkins" wrote in message ... So its a linear process doubling co2 twice the effect. Is it not an *exponential* process, beyond a certain point at least. You reach a certain level, a 'tipping point' if you like and you get runaway warming. That's why nobody books holidays on Venus. -- Paul Hyett, Cheltenham


Actually most people seem to love green house temperatures as witnessed by millions making their holiday choices. I see that Filey , Skegness and even Margate aren't frequented as much as they used to be. Now of course this could be due to AGW and the rising sea levels , the unbearable Mediterranean summers or simply its cool an miserable with the sea where its been for literally centuries cold and muddy.


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