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The last two days have been cooler with a much fresher feel during the
evenings and night. Who would have thought I would have two consecutive
summer months likely to have 100+ mm rain each, have 15 of the last 30
days having rain and still being able to report a wonderful hot and
sunny summer! Positively tropical style.
Dave, S.Essex

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On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 10:19:50 AM UTC+1, Dave Cornwell wrote:
The last two days have been cooler with a much fresher feel during the

evenings and night. Who would have thought I would have two consecutive

summer months likely to have 100+ mm rain each, have 15 of the last 30

days having rain and still being able to report a wonderful hot and

sunny summer! Positively tropical style.

Dave, S.Essex


What is remarkable about it? Last year we had a cold spring followed by a long hot summer; the year before the summer was a wash out. This isle sits on the gulf stream that bring us different weather everyday which is why we talk alot about it.

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The last two days have been cooler with a much fresher feel during the
evenings and night. Who would have thought I would have two consecutive
summer months likely to have 100+ mm rain each, have 15 of the last 30
days having rain and still being able to report a wonderful hot and
sunny summer! Positively tropical style.
Dave, S.Essex


I've mentioned before how the weather often seems to take an autumnal
turn around mid-August (though summer sometimes returns for the first
half of September). I think it's more than just the days noticeably
getting shorter making it seem like that.
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What is remarkable about it? Last year we had a cold spring followed by a long hot summer; the year before the summer was a wash out. This isle sits on the gulf stream that bring us different weather everyday which is why we talk alot about it.

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So which other summer did I have two consecutive months likely to have
over a 100mm each in the driest region of the UK? In the same summer
period 30 consecutive days of temperatures over 22C with several in the
30's? The same summer period with at least 6 separate thunderstorms? The
same summer with extremely high sunshine hours?
Sorry but we may have had these but not in the same two month summer
period in my recollection. Remarkable enough here.
Dave, South Essex.
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On Tuesday, 12 August 2014 11:06:00 UTC+1, John Hall wrote:

The weather often seems to take an autumnal
turn around mid-August (though summer sometimes returns for the first
half of September). I think it's more than just the days noticeably
getting shorter making it seem like that.


Probably a neutral point related to the solar declination. IIRC we are some 60 degrees to the sun in August. Can't remember what happens after but we often have a penchant for thundery weather around now.

Wish I could remember how often that occurs. + Got to have a lunar coincident with it.

Early in September it is some 45 degrees from us. I believe that's an important angle for some reason.
http://www.wsanford.com/~wsanford/ex...s/DEC_Sun.html
Works every year but this one is only good for 2:
http://www.moontracks.com/moon-declinations.html

If you have records of thunderstorms, look for angles or resultants divisible by 15. It used to work when I was doing that sort of thing -a bit hit and miss but my maths is crap.




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On Tuesday, 12 August 2014 12:41:36 UTC+1, Dave Cornwell wrote:
zaax wrote:





What is remarkable about it? Last year we had a cold spring followed by a long hot summer; the year before the summer was a wash out. This isle sits on the gulf stream that bring us different weather everyday which is why we talk alot about it.




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So which other summer did I have two consecutive months likely to have

over a 100mm each in the driest region of the UK? In the same summer

period 30 consecutive days of temperatures over 22C with several in the

30's? The same summer period with at least 6 separate thunderstorms? The

same summer with extremely high sunshine hours?

Sorry but we may have had these but not in the same two month summer

period in my recollection. Remarkable enough here.

Dave, South Essex.


I thought last summer was marvellous but the mean temp of this summer is currently running about 0.5C higher!
Considering the period from June 1st to August 11th gave the following:
Days above 25C: 35 (29 in 2013)
Days with thunder: 7 (8 in 2013) The storms this year, however, have been far more spectacular and widespread - though, on a local scale, nothing has matched the thunderstorm on July 23rd last year.

The various thunderstorms have reminded me of the ones of my youth - just when I thought I'd never see them again -
http://wansteadmeteo.wordpress.com/2...thunderstorms/

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On Tuesday, 12 August 2014 10:19:50 UTC+1, Dave Cornwell wrote:
The last two days have been cooler with a much fresher feel during the

evenings and night. Who would have thought I would have two consecutive

summer months likely to have 100+ mm rain each, have 15 of the last 30

days having rain and still being able to report a wonderful hot and

sunny summer! Positively tropical style.

Dave, S.Essex




Have to say I thought this summer was fairly okay to average. I can't recall suffering at anytime at all with excessive heat. Yes I know that is a very subjective view but I'm sure the thermometer will back that up. The only thing different for me this summer was a couple of cracking thunder storms like when I were kid on holiday in Swalecliff North Kent.


You've been visiting the UKMO weather warnings page far too much for your own good Dave.
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On 12/08/2014 10:19, Dave Cornwell wrote:
The last two days have been cooler with a much fresher feel during the
evenings and night. Who would have thought I would have two consecutive
summer months likely to have 100+ mm rain each, have 15 of the last 30
days having rain and still being able to report a wonderful hot and
sunny summer! Positively tropical style.
Dave, S.Essex


Is that because most of the rain has been convective in nature?
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Adam Lea wrote:
On 12/08/2014 10:19, Dave Cornwell wrote:
The last two days have been cooler with a much fresher feel during the
evenings and night. Who would have thought I would have two consecutive
summer months likely to have 100+ mm rain each, have 15 of the last 30
days having rain and still being able to report a wonderful hot and
sunny summer! Positively tropical style.
Dave, S.Essex


Is that because most of the rain has been convective in nature?

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Yes, I think so Adam. I'm not sure why my saying it was remarkable
people interpreted it as me saying it was the "best" or "hottest" summer
I could recall ;-)


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