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Although _scientific_ discussion of climate change has long been allowed
for in this group's constitution, I realise that some people are bored
by it and that is why I prefix the title with "[CC]" in the same way
that "[WR]" and "[OBS]" were introduced so that such threads could be
filtered out by uninterested parties.

Any road up, here's the link:

http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/20...nimum-reached/

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On 23/09/2014 08:52, Graham P Davis wrote:
Although _scientific_ discussion of climate change has long been allowed
for in this group's constitution, I realise that some people are bored
by it and that is why I prefix the title with "[CC]" in the same way
that "[WR]" and "[OBS]" were introduced so that such threads could be
filtered out by uninterested parties.

Any road up, here's the link:

http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/20...nimum-reached/


WHY is the arctic shrinking and the antarctic growing?
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Graham P Davis wrote:

Although _scientific_ discussion of climate change has long been allowed
for in this group's constitution, I realise that some people are bored
by it and that is why I prefix the title with "[CC]" in the same way
that "[WR]" and "[OBS]" were introduced so that such threads could be
filtered out by uninterested parties.

Any road up, here's the link:

http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/20...nimum-reached/



So the Arctic has ~ 1.2m sq kms less sea ice than average and the Antarctic
~ 2.0m more than average.

Won't the net gain in global sea ice increase solar reflection causing a
drop in temperatures - causing more sea ice to accumulate. Runaway global
glaciation? :-)


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On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 10:31:06 +0100
Joe Egginton wrote:

On 23/09/2014 08:52, Graham P Davis wrote:
Although _scientific_ discussion of climate change has long been
allowed for in this group's constitution, I realise that some
people are bored by it and that is why I prefix the title with
"[CC]" in the same way that "[WR]" and "[OBS]" were introduced so
that such threads could be filtered out by uninterested parties.

Any road up, here's the link:

http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/20...nimum-reached/


WHY is the arctic shrinking and the antarctic growing?


It's getting warmer.

Arctic sea and land ice is melting. Any fresh water from melting land
ice is quickly lost from the area, carried south and mixed with
warmer, saline water.

Antarctic land ice is melting. Increased fresh water largely remains
within Antarctic waters, circling eastwards, making formation of sea-ice
easier.

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Lord Dewar (1864-1930)



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On Tuesday, 23 September 2014 10:31:06 UTC+1, jumper wrote:
On 23/09/2014 08:52, Graham P Davis wrote:

Although _scientific_ discussion of climate change has long been allowed


for in this group's constitution, I realise that some people are bored


by it and that is why I prefix the title with "[CC]" in the same way


that "[WR]" and "[OBS]" were introduced so that such threads could be


filtered out by uninterested parties.




Any road up, here's the link:




http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/20...nimum-reached/






WHY is the arctic shrinking and the antarctic growing?


The Arctic has stopped shrinking and is now clearly rebounding from clearly natural cycles. The Antarctic ice is another thing all together totally
unprecedented.


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On 23/09/2014 10:31, Joe Egginton wrote:
On 23/09/2014 08:52, Graham P Davis wrote:
Although _scientific_ discussion of climate change has long been allowed
for in this group's constitution, I realise that some people are bored
by it and that is why I prefix the title with "[CC]" in the same way
that "[WR]" and "[OBS]" were introduced so that such threads could be
filtered out by uninterested parties.

Any road up, here's the link:

http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/20...nimum-reached/


WHY is the arctic shrinking and the antarctic growing?


Because it's the end of summer in the northern hemisphere, and the end
of winter in the southern?


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On Tuesday, September 23, 2014 5:11:41 PM UTC+1, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
On Tuesday, 23 September 2014 10:31:06 UTC+1, jumper wrote:

On 23/09/2014 08:52, Graham P Davis wrote:




Although _scientific_ discussion of climate change has long been allowed




for in this group's constitution, I realise that some people are bored




by it and that is why I prefix the title with "[CC]" in the same way




that "[WR]" and "[OBS]" were introduced so that such threads could be




filtered out by uninterested parties.








Any road up, here's the link:








http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/20...nimum-reached/












WHY is the arctic shrinking and the antarctic growing?




The Arctic has stopped shrinking and is now clearly rebounding from clearly natural cycles. The Antarctic ice is another thing all together totally

unprecedented.


After all he's been shown and told, he still believes exactly the same lies and crap as he did before.

Truly laughable.
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On Tuesday, 23 September 2014 10:50:16 UTC+1, Graham P Davis wrote:
On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 10:31:06 +0100

Joe Egginton wrote:



On 23/09/2014 08:52, Graham P Davis wrote:


Although _scientific_ discussion of climate change has long been


allowed for in this group's constitution, I realise that some


people are bored by it and that is why I prefix the title with


"[CC]" in the same way that "[WR]" and "[OBS]" were introduced so


that such threads could be filtered out by uninterested parties.




Any road up, here's the link:




http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/20...nimum-reached/






WHY is the arctic shrinking and the antarctic growing?




It's getting warmer.



Arctic sea and land ice is melting. Any fresh water from melting land

ice is quickly lost from the area, carried south and mixed with

warmer, saline water.



Antarctic land ice is melting. Increased fresh water largely remains

within Antarctic waters, circling eastwards, making formation of sea-ice

easier.



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"Minds are like parachutes. They only function when they're open". -

Lord Dewar (1864-1930)


It is not getting warmer you can have your own opinion but you cannot have your own facts. As for Gavin Schmidt's warmest August ever that is pure desperation from a AGW industry that sees its days numbered in income and status
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On Tuesday, 23 September 2014 17:33:57 UTC+1, Dawlish wrote:
On Tuesday, September 23, 2014 5:11:41 PM UTC+1, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:

On Tuesday, 23 September 2014 10:31:06 UTC+1, jumper wrote:




On 23/09/2014 08:52, Graham P Davis wrote:








Although _scientific_ discussion of climate change has long been allowed








for in this group's constitution, I realise that some people are bored








by it and that is why I prefix the title with "[CC]" in the same way








that "[WR]" and "[OBS]" were introduced so that such threads could be








filtered out by uninterested parties.
















Any road up, here's the link:
















http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/20...nimum-reached/
























WHY is the arctic shrinking and the antarctic growing?








The Arctic has stopped shrinking and is now clearly rebounding from clearly natural cycles. The Antarctic ice is another thing all together totally




unprecedented.




After all he's been shown and told, he still believes exactly the same lies and crap as he did before.



Truly laughable.


Your inability to accept facts is pitiful.
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On Tuesday, September 23, 2014 5:57:02 PM UTC+1, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
On Tuesday, 23 September 2014 17:33:57 UTC+1, Dawlish wrote:



After all he's been shown and told, he still believes exactly the same lies and crap as he did before.


Truly laughable.


Your inability to accept facts is pitiful.


Projection is a recognised mental illness, you know.


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