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Our subscriber the Daily Express has picked up on Sir Piers prediction.
I would like to request that people kindly do not lump him in the same camp as that nutter James Madden. As Lawrence pointed out Sir Piers did not make any snowy predictions last year because he KNEW they werent going to happen. This year he is CERTAIN we are are for a real big un. HOLD ON TO YOUR HELMETS LADS!!! aND THE XPRESS PIECE Sir Piers Corbyn, forecaster for WeatherAction, said: "There are some very significant cold and snowy blasts now almost a certainly in December. "We are expecting something similar to 2010 and 2011 with major snow events and sustained extreme cold expected through the month. "Major disruption at airports and on the country's transport systems is inevitable and they should be prepared for this. "We have the jet stream to thank for this which, due to solar activity, is meandering. "It is about to open the doors to a blast of cold air from the north and will block milder conditions from the west. "It will be mostly cold and snowy until just before Christmas and there are signs of some more extreme conditions after December, although there are huge variables on these models." |
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On Thursday, 20 November 2014 00:45:13 UTC, Jim Cannon wrote:
Our subscriber the Daily Express has picked up on Sir Piers prediction. I would like to request that people kindly do not lump him in the same camp as that nutter James Madden. As Lawrence pointed out Sir Piers did not make any snowy predictions last year because he KNEW they werent going to happen. This year he is CERTAIN we are are for a real big un. HOLD ON TO YOUR HELMETS LADS!!! aND THE XPRESS PIECE Sir Piers Corbyn, forecaster for WeatherAction, said: "There are some very significant cold and snowy blasts now almost a certainly in December. "We are expecting something similar to 2010 and 2011 with major snow events and sustained extreme cold expected through the month. "Major disruption at airports and on the country's transport systems is inevitable and they should be prepared for this. "We have the jet stream to thank for this which, due to solar activity, is meandering. "It is about to open the doors to a blast of cold air from the north and will block milder conditions from the west. "It will be mostly cold and snowy until just before Christmas and there are signs of some more extreme conditions after December, although there are huge variables on these models." Get in there son. I also note you differ somewhat from UKMO's winter forecast which is wet and windy. |
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On Thursday, 20 November 2014 00:45:13 UTC, Jim Cannon wrote:
Our subscriber the Daily Express has picked up on Sir Piers prediction. I would like to request that people kindly do not lump him in the same camp as that nutter James Madden. As Lawrence pointed out Sir Piers did not make any snowy predictions last year because he KNEW they werent going to happen. This year he is CERTAIN we are are for a real big un. HOLD ON TO YOUR HELMETS LADS!!! aND THE XPRESS PIECE Sir Piers Corbyn, forecaster for WeatherAction, said: "There are some very significant cold and snowy blasts now almost a certainly in December. "We are expecting something similar to 2010 and 2011 with major snow events and sustained extreme cold expected through the month. "Major disruption at airports and on the country's transport systems is inevitable and they should be prepared for this. "We have the jet stream to thank for this which, due to solar activity, is meandering. "It is about to open the doors to a blast of cold air from the north and will block milder conditions from the west. "It will be mostly cold and snowy until just before Christmas and there are signs of some more extreme conditions after December, although there are huge variables on these models." The difference between Piers and Madden is Piers genuinely believes in his method and that makes him far from the maddening crowd and Madden is just mad, mad on publicity for the sake of it |
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Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
On Thursday, 20 November 2014 00:45:13 UTC, Jim Cannon wrote: Our subscriber the Daily Express has picked up on Sir Piers prediction. I would like to request that people kindly do not lump him in the same camp as that nutter James Madden. As Lawrence pointed out Sir Piers did not make any snowy predictions last year because he KNEW they werent going to happen. This year he is CERTAIN we are are for a real big un. HOLD ON TO YOUR HELMETS LADS!!! aND THE XPRESS PIECE Sir Piers Corbyn, forecaster for WeatherAction, said: "There are some very significant cold and snowy blasts now almost a certainly in December. "We are expecting something similar to 2010 and 2011 with major snow events and sustained extreme cold expected through the month. "Major disruption at airports and on the country's transport systems is inevitable and they should be prepared for this. "We have the jet stream to thank for this which, due to solar activity, is meandering. "It is about to open the doors to a blast of cold air from the north and will block milder conditions from the west. "It will be mostly cold and snowy until just before Christmas and there are signs of some more extreme conditions after December, although there are huge variables on these models." The difference between Piers and Madden is Piers genuinely believes in his method and that makes him far from the maddening crowd and Madden is just mad, mad on publicity for the sake of it ----------------------------------------------------------- Neither makes them any better at forecasting though! Both track records are dire so when they eventually get lucky it will hardly be anything remarkable, although of course they will tell us otherwise. |
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In message , Jim
Cannon writes aND THE XPRESS PIECE Sir Piers Corbyn, forecaster for WeatherAction, said: "There are some very significant cold and snowy blasts now almost a certainly in December. "We are expecting something similar to 2010 and 2011 with major snow events and sustained extreme cold expected through the month. snip I'm preserving this, and will come back to it at the end of December. It will be interesting to see if it bears any relation to what actually happens. -- John Hall "Never play cards with a man called Doc. Never eat at a place called Mom's. Never sleep with a woman whose troubles are worse than your own." Nelson Algren |
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On Thursday, November 20, 2014 10:30:10 AM UTC, John Hall wrote:
In message , Jim Cannon writes aND THE XPRESS PIECE Sir Piers Corbyn, forecaster for WeatherAction, said: "There are some very significant cold and snowy blasts now almost a certainly in December. "We are expecting something similar to 2010 and 2011 with major snow events and sustained extreme cold expected through the month. snip I'm preserving this, and will come back to it at the end of December. It will be interesting to see if it bears any relation to what actually happens. -- John Hall "Never play cards with a man called Doc. Never eat at a place called Mom's. Never sleep with a woman whose troubles are worse than your own." Nelson Algren Just for the record, west Cornwall at the end of November 2010 http://www.turnstone-cottage.co.uk/ExtremeNov2010.pdf . I am willing to stick my neck out and say it won't be anything like that this year! It was the west Cornwall equivalent of 'lake effect snow' Bitterly cold air running over an SST 10C . Picture of the unususual resulting conditions http://penzanceweather.atspace.com/wpage5a.html Graham Penzance |
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Where is this forecast for? All of the UK from Shetland to Cornwall? N, S, E, or W? Some specifics would be helpful!
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Hi Mr Cannon, Please can you tell me the dynamics of "The Model" that you refer to? Can you also tell me where online I can look at the methodology and model parameters, variables and diagnostics? Are there any guidance notes on model use ....and what programming language is the model written in to process the Terabytes of information necessary each day to make sure it is viable and not at variance with itself after each iteration? (internally consistent.) Us there any verification and quality control of data in or out? I would love to see how the model deals with the a Troposphere/ Stratosphere/ Mesosphere and Ionosphere interaction.
Thanks in advance Ben |
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Jim Cannon wrote:
Our subscriber the Daily Express has picked up on Sir Piers prediction. I would like to request that people kindly do not lump him in the same camp as that nutter James Madden. I lump him in the same camp as that nutter James Madden. -- Col Bolton, Lancashire 160m asl Snow videos: http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3QvmL4UWBmHFMKWiwYm_gg |
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On Thursday, November 20, 2014 3:22:22 PM UTC, wrote:
Hi Mr Cannon, Please can you tell me the dynamics of "The Model" that you refer to? Can you also tell me where online I can look at the methodology and model parameters, variables and diagnostics? Are there any guidance notes on model use ....and what programming language is the model written in to process the Terabytes of information necessary each day to make sure it is viable and not at variance with itself after each iteration? (internally consistent.) Us there any verification and quality control of data in or out? I would love to see how the model deals with the a Troposphere/ Stratosphere/ Mesosphere and Ionosphere interaction. Thanks in advance Ben =========== Excellent. These are the sorts of question I would have liked to have posed to the now pleasingly absent Jonathan Powell about his much-touted "Positive Weather Solutions" / "Vantage Weather Services" model. Presumably run on the Cray lurking in the basement of his terraced house in Glamorgan. Equally they could be put to Exacta in his flat in Lancaster. Stephen. |
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