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Something we haven't seen forecast for quite a while!

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Something we haven't seen forecast for quite a while!


Yes, going by the GFS and ECMWF 12Z operational runs, it doesn't look as
if zonality will have returned by then. In their detail, they are
somewhat different, though, GFS having the High centred over southern
England and ECMWF keeping it just to our west and showing signs of
ridging towards southern Scandinavia. The GFS ensemble strongly suggests
that there could be very little in the way of rainfull in at least
southern areas over the next two weeks:

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MS_-251_ens.png
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On Tue, 27 Jan 2015 11:22:16 -0800 (PST), Dawlish
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Something we haven't seen forecast for quite a while!


Yes, I noticed that last night on the GFS, it would keep the low level
air very cold thus extending the forthcoming cold spell. ECMWF didn't
fully agree then but now, it does... with signs of it ridging into...
(shhhh!) Scandinavia! GFS doesn't go that far, but we all know how
fickle the GFS is at 10 days...

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On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 at 8:31:03 PM UTC, Dave Ludlow wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jan 2015 11:22:16 -0800 (PST), Dawlish
wrote:

Something we haven't seen forecast for quite a while!


Yes, I noticed that last night on the GFS, it would keep the low level
air very cold thus extending the forthcoming cold spell. ECMWF didn't
fully agree then but now, it does... with signs of it ridging into...
(shhhh!) Scandinavia! GFS doesn't go that far, but we all know how
fickle the GFS is at 10 days...

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Not just the gfs! That's why, without full agreement and any consistency, they are simply operational runs, with no great meaning.......yet. It generates a little interest though.
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On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 at 8:44:55 PM UTC, Dawlish wrote:
On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 at 8:31:03 PM UTC, Dave Ludlow wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jan 2015 11:22:16 -0800 (PST), Dawlish
wrote:

Something we haven't seen forecast for quite a while!


Yes, I noticed that last night on the GFS, it would keep the low level
air very cold thus extending the forthcoming cold spell. ECMWF didn't
fully agree then but now, it does... with signs of it ridging into...
(shhhh!) Scandinavia! GFS doesn't go that far, but we all know how
fickle the GFS is at 10 days...

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Not just the gfs! That's why, without full agreement and any consistency, they are simply operational runs, with no great meaning.......yet. It generates a little interest though.


Shades of February 1986, which was very cold but also very dry with less than 15mm all month...


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Shades of February 1986, which was very cold but also very dry with
less than 15mm all month...


I suspect that most very cold months are dry. Looking at the other
months in the 20th and 21st centuries that finished with a sub-zero CET,
their rainfalls as given by the EWR series we

1956 Feb 24.7
1963 Jan 28.1 Feb 32.1
2010 Dec 37.6

And even

1947 Feb 50.2

wasn't wet.

But:

1940 Jan 70.5
1979 Jan 81.2

Though I suppose even those had only around average rainfall for
January. None of the other sub-zero months quite matched February 1986
for dryness, though.
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1979 Jan 81.2


Jan 1979 was the snowiest month I've ever witnessed John and my data goes
back to 1960

Awesome winter month don't suppose I will see anything like that again.

Graham (Weston Coyney)



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Scott W writes
Shades of February 1986, which was very cold but also very dry with
less than 15mm all month...


I suspect that most very cold months are dry. Looking at the other
months in the 20th and 21st centuries that finished with a sub-zero CET,
their rainfalls as given by the EWR series we

1956 Feb 24.7
1963 Jan 28.1 Feb 32.1
2010 Dec 37.6

And even

1947 Feb 50.2

wasn't wet.

But:

1940 Jan 70.5
1979 Jan 81.2

Though I suppose even those had only around average rainfall for
January. None of the other sub-zero months quite matched February 1986
for dryness, though.
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And not forgetting February 1991. Mean: 1.6C Precip: 39mm in my area (average). Not sure on CET amount though I imagine south-east was wetter because of the synoptics when the snow fell. Only time I can remember walking into town in knee deep level snow which was drifted up to my waist in places...

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Only time I can remember walking into town in knee deep level snow which was
drifted up to my waist in places...
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How old were you - six? :-)

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Scott W writes
And not forgetting February 1991. Mean: 1.6C Precip: 39mm in my area
(average). Not sure on CET amount though I imagine south-east was
wetter because of the synoptics when the snow fell. Only time I can
remember walking into town in knee deep level snow which was drifted up
to my waist in places...


The England & Wales Rainfall series gives 63.7mm. I suupose that's the
result of the cold spell, though intense, not being that long-lasting.
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