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On Sat, 30 May 2015 08:59:29 -0700 (PDT)
Tudor Hughes wrote:

On Saturday, 30 May 2015 12:15:11 UTC+1, Keith (Southend)G wrote:
On 30/05/2015 12:04, Dave Cornwell wrote:
On 30/05/2015 10:17, Col wrote:
Jack Warner wrote:
On 30/05/2015 09:42, Col wrote:
On June 2nd 1975 it famously snowed in many places in the UK,
yet less than a week later temperatures were in the 80s

OK it won't snow on June 2nd this year but it looks like there
will be quite an intense low, more like January than June.
And less than a week later, we could well be in the 80s!

Interesting how exactly 40 years on the weather could well be
about to make another dramatic shift.


I've been thinking about that Col. I remember my Mom saying it
was snowing at about 7.30am, I thought she mistook snow pellets
for snow. However, when I looked out the window I was amazed, I
thought I was dreaming. LOL.

I don't remember it snowing, I was only 7, I wish I did.

My mum went to a job interview in Leeds city centre that day
and said that there was sleet there.
I would have been at primary school right up near the highest
point in Leeds so there would almost certainly have been proper
snow there, sadly I don't remember.

----------------------------------------------------------
I think that might have been the famous snow stops play in the
Essex match at Colchester.


1975 also was quite a good summer :-)


August 1975 was one of the warmest Augusts of the 20th century
and would have been remembered for a long time but for the following
summer which as we all know was even hotter, and much drier. There
was the Hampstead storm on 14 Aug 75 which dropped about 170 mm in a
couple of hours.


Depends where you were as to how dry 1975 was. In Suffolk, the dry
weather started after the June snow and continued through August 1976.
The last time I mowed my lawn in 1975 was in May. By autumn, it was
about 3" long and still looking greenish whereas all my neighbours'
lawns were brown.

At Christmas, there were still wide cracks in the lawn due to the
continuing drought. It reminded me of something my dad used to tell me
of a Boxing Day football match on the Dog and Duck ground in
Wellingborough where the grass around the pitch was dry enough to sit
on and there were cracks in the ground wide enough to slide his hand
in. I hadn't believed him because I was used to seeing that ground
under water - it was on the Nen flood plain - every winter.

Although areas further west had storms, the eastern half of East Anglia
mostly escaped them as the sea breeze set in after lunch and dispersed
the convective clouds before anything could develop further. This
regular sea breeze meant that the summer of 1975 was much better than
the following one as I only recall a couple of days where the sea
breeze set in and on one of those it only arrived at 1700 at
Felixstowe. !976 was a thoroughly unpleasant, oppressive summer,
particularly for anyone like myself who was working shifts.


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When I lived in Penistone I was told by a number of people that there was snow cover there 2/6/75, as much as 2 inches, but we know how people exaggerate!

As for the summer, I was working on my Dad's farm in Cornwall, where it was exceptionally dry. At harvest you could barely see any straw coming out the back of the combine.

This was a serious issue in Cornwall and Devon, as straw was used for animal feed and bedding and there was a massive shortage. The NFU organised the great straw trek and many of us from the south west went up to Norfolk, Suffolk and Cambridgeshire to bale up the straw, which would otherwise have been burnt, and transport it back to Cornwall.

I was there for a number of weeks and remember travelling back to Cornwall on a lorry loaded with straw the day the drought broke and boy was it wet after that.
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On 30/05/2015 10:17, Col wrote:
Jack Warner wrote:
On 30/05/2015 09:42, Col wrote:
On June 2nd 1975 it famously snowed in many places in the UK,
yet less than a week later temperatures were in the 80s

OK it won't snow on June 2nd this year but it looks like there will
be quite an intense low, more like January than June.
And less than a week later, we could well be in the 80s!

Interesting how exactly 40 years on the weather could well be
about to make another dramatic shift.


I've been thinking about that Col. I remember my Mom saying it was
snowing at about 7.30am, I thought she mistook snow pellets for snow.
However, when I looked out the window I was amazed, I thought I was
dreaming. LOL.


I don't remember it snowing, I was only 7, I wish I did.

My mum went to a job interview in Leeds city centre that day
and said that there was sleet there.
I would have been at primary school right up near the highest
point in Leeds so there would almost certainly have been proper
snow there, sadly I don't remember.


It was wet snow, albeit a real surprise in June. I remember it as I was
meant to get up to go to secondary school, then when my Mom started
shouting about snow, it made me curious.
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On 30/05/2015 16:59, Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Saturday, 30 May 2015 12:15:11 UTC+1, Keith (Southend)G wrote:
On 30/05/2015 12:04, Dave Cornwell wrote:
On 30/05/2015 10:17, Col wrote:
Jack Warner wrote:
On 30/05/2015 09:42, Col wrote:
On June 2nd 1975 it famously snowed in many places in the UK,
yet less than a week later temperatures were in the 80s

OK it won't snow on June 2nd this year but it looks like there will
be quite an intense low, more like January than June.
And less than a week later, we could well be in the 80s!

Interesting how exactly 40 years on the weather could well be
about to make another dramatic shift.


I've been thinking about that Col. I remember my Mom saying it was
snowing at about 7.30am, I thought she mistook snow pellets for snow.
However, when I looked out the window I was amazed, I thought I was
dreaming. LOL.

I don't remember it snowing, I was only 7, I wish I did.

My mum went to a job interview in Leeds city centre that day
and said that there was sleet there.
I would have been at primary school right up near the highest
point in Leeds so there would almost certainly have been proper
snow there, sadly I don't remember.

----------------------------------------------------------
I think that might have been the famous snow stops play in the Essex
match at Colchester.


1975 also was quite a good summer :-)

--
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"Weather Home & Abroad"
http://www.southendweather.net
Twitter:@LawnscienceEssx


August 1975 was one of the warmest Augusts of the 20th century and would have been remembered for a long time but for the following summer which as we all know was even hotter, and much drier.
There was the Hampstead storm on 14 Aug 75 which dropped about 170 mm in a couple of hours.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey


That was a landmark storm , I remember it being reported on the BBC, and
I was amazed that it stayed in one place for hours.
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On 30/05/2015 10:17, Col wrote:
Jack Warner wrote:
On 30/05/2015 09:42, Col wrote:
On June 2nd 1975 it famously snowed in many places in the UK,
yet less than a week later temperatures were in the 80s

OK it won't snow on June 2nd this year but it looks like there will
be quite an intense low, more like January than June.
And less than a week later, we could well be in the 80s!

Interesting how exactly 40 years on the weather could well be
about to make another dramatic shift.


I've been thinking about that Col. I remember my Mom saying it was
snowing at about 7.30am, I thought she mistook snow pellets for snow.
However, when I looked out the window I was amazed, I thought I was
dreaming. LOL.


I don't remember it snowing, I was only 7, I wish I did.

My mum went to a job interview in Leeds city centre that day
and said that there was sleet there.
I would have been at primary school right up near the highest
point in Leeds so there would almost certainly have been proper
snow there, sadly I don't remember.

----------------------------------------------------------
I think that might have been the famous snow stops play in the Essex
match at Colchester.


I think some snow was seen in a shower, but I don't think it actually
settled. However Derbyshire were playing Lancashire at Buxton, which is
quite high up in the Peak District, and at the time that play was
supposed to start there were a couple of inches of snow covering the
ground, so the umpires abandoned play for the day.
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On Saturday, 30 May 2015 20:17:38 UTC+1, Jack Warner wrote:
On 30/05/2015 16:59, Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Saturday, 30 May 2015 12:15:11 UTC+1, Keith (Southend)G wrote:
On 30/05/2015 12:04, Dave Cornwell wrote:
On 30/05/2015 10:17, Col wrote:
Jack Warner wrote:
On 30/05/2015 09:42, Col wrote:
On June 2nd 1975 it famously snowed in many places in the UK,
yet less than a week later temperatures were in the 80s

OK it won't snow on June 2nd this year but it looks like there will
be quite an intense low, more like January than June.
And less than a week later, we could well be in the 80s!

Interesting how exactly 40 years on the weather could well be
about to make another dramatic shift.


I've been thinking about that Col. I remember my Mom saying it was
snowing at about 7.30am, I thought she mistook snow pellets for snow.
However, when I looked out the window I was amazed, I thought I was
dreaming. LOL.

I don't remember it snowing, I was only 7, I wish I did.

My mum went to a job interview in Leeds city centre that day
and said that there was sleet there.
I would have been at primary school right up near the highest
point in Leeds so there would almost certainly have been proper
snow there, sadly I don't remember.

----------------------------------------------------------
I think that might have been the famous snow stops play in the Essex
match at Colchester.

1975 also was quite a good summer :-)

--
Keith (Southend)
"Weather Home & Abroad"
http://www.southendweather.net
Twitter:@LawnscienceEssx


August 1975 was one of the warmest Augusts of the 20th century and would have been remembered for a long time but for the following summer which as we all know was even hotter, and much drier.
There was the Hampstead storm on 14 Aug 75 which dropped about 170 mm in a couple of hours.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey


That was a landmark storm , I remember it being reported on the BBC, and
I was amazed that it stayed in one place for hours.




Hey Jack

Have you they let you out on bail then?
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On June 2nd 1975 it famously snowed in many places in the UK,
yet less than a week later temperatures were in the 80s


I remember it well. I was living in Wester Ross, and I had an
Australian cousin visiting. It was quite difficult to convince
her that snow at sea level on the west coast on 2 June was a
freak.

Anne



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I think some snow was seen in a shower, but I don't think it actually
settled. However Derbyshire were playing Lancashire at Buxton, which is
quite high up in the Peak District, and at the time that play was
supposed to start there were a couple of inches of snow covering the
ground, so the umpires abandoned play for the day.
--
Yes if I remember Clive Lloyd was playing for Lancashire and he'd never seen
anything like it.

Just dug out my old diaries from 1974/75, quite amazing weather.
Snow in October 1974 was followed by a very mild winter. We then had 18cms
of snow at Easter (27th March).
I was living at a lower altitude in those days, so it may have been a lot
worse up here at Weston Coyney!
More cold and wintry weather for the first 10 days of April and then snow
again on June 2nd.
Have a great picture from out local newspaper of that Easter snowstorm from
1975 with people digging their cars out of the snow in Hanley city centre.
Those were the days as they say, brings back memories. I was just 22 at the
time


Graham (Weston Coyney)


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On Sat, 30 May 2015 20:47:40 +0100
John Hall wrote:


I think some snow was seen in a shower, but I don't think it actually
settled. However Derbyshire were playing Lancashire at Buxton, which
is quite high up in the Peak District, and at the time that play was
supposed to start there were a couple of inches of snow covering the
ground, so the umpires abandoned play for the day.


On Sat, 30 May 2015 23:40:56 +0100
"Graham" wrote:

Yes if I remember Clive Lloyd was playing for Lancashire and he'd never
seen anything like it.

Just dug out my old diaries from 1974/75, quite amazing weather.
Snow in October 1974 was followed by a very mild winter. We then had 18cms of snow at Easter (27th March).

I was living at a lower altitude in those days, so it may have been a lot worse up here at Weston Coyney!

More cold and wintry weather for the first 10 days of April and then snow again on June 2nd.

Have a great picture from out local newspaper of that Easter snowstorm from 1975 with people digging their cars out of the snow in Hanley city centre.

Those were the days as they say, brings back memories. I was just 22 at the time


Graham (Weston Coyney)

===

Re-posted the above as it would otherwise have got lost after the sig.
Also, the ref to John's post was lost in the original.

Re the snow in East Anglia,I think John may be making the same mistake
as the Met Office in saying the snow fell in showers although, having
said that, the cold front causing the precipitation did contain
embedded CBs.

As I saw it in Rushden, ahead of the front, the wind was south of west
and it rained. As the front passed through at about 0800Z, the wind
veered to north or north-west and it initially hailed but soon after
turned to a short-lived fall of large, wet snowflakes.

As I drove through west Suffolk later that morning, the sun had begun to
break through the frontal cloud and the snow lying on lawns and roofs
had been reduced to about half-cover. I don't recall there being any
showers behind the front that day.

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As far as I can see there was overnight snow on higher ground from an active cold front which is how I remember it as I was still living at home in Sheffield at the time, but the snow that stopped the cricket was probably from a trough in the very unstable cold air later in the morning.

I blogged about it a couple of years ago so I looked out the SYNOP charts

https://xmetman.wordpress.com/2013/10/09/2-june-1975/


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