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Just found this very interesting account of the Buxton snow in June 1975:
That connection is no longer available and setting off for Buxton was always a gamble. It had the distinction of being the highest county ground above sea level and was also one of the wettest. I once compiled a 10-year survey of matches at Buxton and it showed the chances of play on any given day were exactly 50-50. Once, while morosely watching the rain run down the slope from the tiny pavilion, I remarked to an elderly neighbour that nothing would be seen that day. He reflectively moved the last inch of his Woodbine and said: “No and it’ll be the same tomorrow.” He was right. By the time I was working for this paper and covering Derbyshire for 32 years, I went everywhere by car and the drive to Buxton on June 2, 1975, produced the strangest experience in all that time. The first day was hot and humid and Derbyshire were short of fit bowlers. A condition that season was a limit of 100 overs on the first innings of each side but that was more than enough for Lancashire, who scored 477-5. Frank Hayes scored 104 and the sight of Clive Lloyd coming down the steps at 175-2 did not cheer ailing bowlers, especially Philip Russell, who sent down 34 of the 100 overs. In an innings that contained 11 sixes and 60 fours, Russell’s 3-119 was a good effort, especially as Lloyd was not content with clearing the ropes but frequently sent the ball out of the ground. On the Sunday, Derbyshire beat Glamorgan at Buxton while Lancashire had to trail off to Colchester to meet Essex in the John Player League. I set off on the Monday without undue alarm but, once past Bonsall, the fields had a generous covering of snow. Even then, I was not worried: it was June and the snow would clear. It did not. The Park was completely covered with a good inch of snow and, with a unique occurrence, it was mandatory that Dickie Bird should be one of the umpires. He ran round in circles, repeating himself, while Clive Lloyd saw snow for the first time in his life. His idea of fun with snowballs was to whip them in like his returns from the covers. To be avoided. By Tuesday, the weather was back to normal, except Derbyshire were caught on a snow-affected pitch. Peter Lee and Peter Lever merely had to run up and let go. The ball did the rest and Derbyshire were out twice, for 42 and 87 to lose by an innings and 348 runs. Read mo http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/Gera...#ixzz3bhsyMNfB Follow us: @DerbyTelegraph on Twitter | derbytelegraph on Facebook Graham (Weston Coyney) |
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On Saturday, 30 May 2015 19:16:11 UTC+1, Graham P Davis wrote:
On Sat, 30 May 2015 08:59:29 -0700 (PDT) Tudor Hughes wrote: On Saturday, 30 May 2015 12:15:11 UTC+1, Keith (Southend)G wrote: On 30/05/2015 12:04, Dave Cornwell wrote: On 30/05/2015 10:17, Col wrote: Jack Warner wrote: On 30/05/2015 09:42, Col wrote: On June 2nd 1975 it famously snowed in many places in the UK, yet less than a week later temperatures were in the 80s OK it won't snow on June 2nd this year but it looks like there will be quite an intense low, more like January than June. And less than a week later, we could well be in the 80s! Interesting how exactly 40 years on the weather could well be about to make another dramatic shift. I've been thinking about that Col. I remember my Mom saying it was snowing at about 7.30am, I thought she mistook snow pellets for snow. However, when I looked out the window I was amazed, I thought I was dreaming. LOL. I don't remember it snowing, I was only 7, I wish I did. My mum went to a job interview in Leeds city centre that day and said that there was sleet there. I would have been at primary school right up near the highest point in Leeds so there would almost certainly have been proper snow there, sadly I don't remember. ---------------------------------------------------------- I think that might have been the famous snow stops play in the Essex match at Colchester. 1975 also was quite a good summer :-) August 1975 was one of the warmest Augusts of the 20th century and would have been remembered for a long time but for the following summer which as we all know was even hotter, and much drier. There was the Hampstead storm on 14 Aug 75 which dropped about 170 mm in a couple of hours. Depends where you were as to how dry 1975 was. In Suffolk, the dry weather started after the June snow and continued through August 1976. The last time I mowed my lawn in 1975 was in May. By autumn, it was about 3" long and still looking greenish whereas all my neighbours' lawns were brown. At Christmas, there were still wide cracks in the lawn due to the continuing drought. It reminded me of something my dad used to tell me of a Boxing Day football match on the Dog and Duck ground in Wellingborough where the grass around the pitch was dry enough to sit on and there were cracks in the ground wide enough to slide his hand in. I hadn't believed him because I was used to seeing that ground under water - it was on the Nen flood plain - every winter. Although areas further west had storms, the eastern half of East Anglia mostly escaped them as the sea breeze set in after lunch and dispersed the convective clouds before anything could develop further. This regular sea breeze meant that the summer of 1975 was much better than the following one as I only recall a couple of days where the sea breeze set in and on one of those it only arrived at 1700 at Felixstowe. !976 was a thoroughly unpleasant, oppressive summer, particularly for anyone like myself who was working shifts. -- Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. [Retd meteorologist/programmer] http://www.scarlet-jade.com/ I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. Posted with Claws: http://www.claws-mail.org/ No sea breeze here to speak of and the nights were very warm also. I was at an age (32) where uncomfortably interesting weather could still be fun. Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey. |
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On Saturday, 30 May 2015 17:36:43 UTC+1, Graham Easterling wrote:
There was the Hampstead storm on 14 Aug 75 which dropped about 170 mm in a couple of hours. Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey At that time I was living in a flat in Golders Green, well 2 rooms & a shared kitchen to be precise. I was clearly an ethnic minority in Golders Green terms. I remember the storm well. Graham Penzance I was seeing a mate in Addiscombe, part of Croydon. It went *very* gloomy in the early evening but there was no rain. In fact there was none south of the Thames. Ethnic minority? Diddums. Try being Welsh, though you wouldn't believe it to hear me. :-) Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey. |
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On 30/05/2015 12:04, Dave Cornwell wrote:
On 30/05/2015 10:17, Col wrote: Jack Warner wrote: On 30/05/2015 09:42, Col wrote: On June 2nd 1975 it famously snowed in many places in the UK, yet less than a week later temperatures were in the 80s OK it won't snow on June 2nd this year but it looks like there will be quite an intense low, more like January than June. And less than a week later, we could well be in the 80s! Interesting how exactly 40 years on the weather could well be about to make another dramatic shift. I've been thinking about that Col. I remember my Mom saying it was snowing at about 7.30am, I thought she mistook snow pellets for snow. However, when I looked out the window I was amazed, I thought I was dreaming. LOL. I don't remember it snowing, I was only 7, I wish I did. My mum went to a job interview in Leeds city centre that day and said that there was sleet there. I would have been at primary school right up near the highest point in Leeds so there would almost certainly have been proper snow there, sadly I don't remember. ---------------------------------------------------------- I think that might have been the famous snow stops play in the Essex match at Colchester. Also, no play at all in Buxton (Derby vs. Lancs). |
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On Sunday, May 31, 2015 at 5:36:59 PM UTC+1, Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Saturday, 30 May 2015 17:36:43 UTC+1, Graham Easterling wrote: There was the Hampstead storm on 14 Aug 75 which dropped about 170 mm in a couple of hours. Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey At that time I was living in a flat in Golders Green, well 2 rooms & a shared kitchen to be precise. I was clearly an ethnic minority in Golders Green terms. I remember the storm well. Graham Penzance I was seeing a mate in Addiscombe, part of Croydon. It went *very* gloomy in the early evening but there was no rain. In fact there was none south of the Thames. Ethnic minority? Diddums. Try being Welsh, though you wouldn't believe it to hear me. :-) Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey. When all the neighbours look like this http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...n_1826929c.jpg being a Cornish surfy type does make you stand out! Graham |
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On Sunday, May 31, 2015 at 8:14:56 PM UTC+1, Graham Easterling wrote:
On Sunday, May 31, 2015 at 5:36:59 PM UTC+1, Tudor Hughes wrote: On Saturday, 30 May 2015 17:36:43 UTC+1, Graham Easterling wrote: There was the Hampstead storm on 14 Aug 75 which dropped about 170 mm in a couple of hours. Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey At that time I was living in a flat in Golders Green, well 2 rooms & a shared kitchen to be precise. I was clearly an ethnic minority in Golders Green terms. I remember the storm well. Graham Penzance I was seeing a mate in Addiscombe, part of Croydon. It went *very* gloomy in the early evening but there was no rain. In fact there was none south of the Thames. Ethnic minority? Diddums. Try being Welsh, though you wouldn't believe it to hear me. :-) Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey. When all the neighbours look like this http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...n_1826929c.jpg being a Cornish surfy type does make you stand out! Graham Picture of me from the same era ( on the left, I'm rather different now) http://www.easterling.freeserve.co.uk/temp.html Apparently it was immediately obvious I wasn't an orthodox Jew. I can't see it myself. Graham |
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On Sunday, 31 May 2015 20:24:11 UTC+1, Graham Easterling wrote:
On Sunday, May 31, 2015 at 8:14:56 PM UTC+1, Graham Easterling wrote: On Sunday, May 31, 2015 at 5:36:59 PM UTC+1, Tudor Hughes wrote: On Saturday, 30 May 2015 17:36:43 UTC+1, Graham Easterling wrote: There was the Hampstead storm on 14 Aug 75 which dropped about 170 mm in a couple of hours. Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey At that time I was living in a flat in Golders Green, well 2 rooms & a shared kitchen to be precise. I was clearly an ethnic minority in Golders Green terms. I remember the storm well. Graham Penzance I was seeing a mate in Addiscombe, part of Croydon. It went *very* gloomy in the early evening but there was no rain. In fact there was none south of the Thames. Ethnic minority? Diddums. Try being Welsh, though you wouldn't believe it to hear me. :-) Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey. When all the neighbours look like this http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...n_1826929c.jpg being a Cornish surfy type does make you stand out! Graham Picture of me from the same era ( on the left, I'm rather different now) http://www.easterling.freeserve.co.uk/temp.html Apparently it was immediately obvious I wasn't an orthodox Jew. I can't see it myself. Graham Me neither. Do we have any stock footage of orthodox Jewish surfers to validate our view? But if you're Cornish you're an ethnic minority anyway, aren't you? Be proud. Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey. |
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In message ,
Tudor Hughes writes Me neither. Do we have any stock footage of orthodox Jewish surfers to validate our view? But if you're Cornish you're an ethnic minority anyway, aren't you? Be proud. Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey. I'm in an ethnic minority in my own country, currently new residents/tax dodgers ( or 'comeovers' as they're known ) outnumber us Manx. -- Jim |
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