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"John Hall" wrote in message
In that case
there also are some chances for us.
Oh, well, you can keep the snow; the cold will be enough for me :-)).




I don't think that many usw readers would agree with that.
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one of the joys of South Cumbria is that snow is a morning event, rarely
lasting past dinner time :-)

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Snow in the first week or so of October has occured in southern England even
on low ground. One of the greatest changes in our weather down south is the
lack of October snow such as on the 7th October 1829 when several inches
fell in the Southeast or the 1st Ocober 1740. Snow in October occurs in
northerly airstreams and for it to reach southern England the air mass has
to be very cold. Sea temperatures to the north are much warmer in autumn now
than in past centuries. For instance in 1888 ice disrupted the Faeroes
fishing fleet from entering the Thorshavn harbour even in July so no wonder
snow lay on the streets of London on the 11th October in 1887.
Ian Currie-Coulsdon
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"Jim Webster" wrote in message
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"John Hall" wrote in message
In that case
there also are some chances for us.
Oh, well, you can keep the snow; the cold will be enough for me :-)).




I don't think that many usw readers would agree with that.
--
John Hall


one of the joys of South Cumbria is that snow is a morning event, rarely
lasting past dinner time :-)

Jim Webster

"The covers of this book are too far apart."
Ambrose Bierce (1842-1914)




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"Ian Currie" wrote in message
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Snow in the first week or so of October has occured in southern

England even
on low ground. snip

For instance in 1888 ice disrupted the Faeroes
fishing fleet from entering the Thorshavn harbour even in July so no

wonder
snow lay on the streets of London on the 11th October in 1887.



.... The October of 1887 was one of the 10 coldest in the CET record -
indeed there appears to be a clustering of cold Octobers in the latter
part of the 19th and very early 20th century (1880, 1887, 1892, 1895,
1896, 1905):

.... as for the summer of 1888, the mean CET value of 13.7degC places it
in the 'top-10' of cold summers by that measure.
(all figures based on the Hadley/MetO datasets)

Martin.


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