On Saturday, August 15, 2015 at 7:35:38 PM UTC+1, Alan White wrote:
On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 16:52:05 +0100, "Keith (Southend)"
wrote:

Mm, best back up then choose a day when I have all the time in the
world and a bottle of JD ;-)

I found, that despite my best efforts, Windows 10 downloaded and
installed itself and I couldn't stop it without it constantly reminding
me to do it! However, if you don't want to keep it there's an option to
return to your previous OS within thirty days. There were few problems
with already installed software.

If you don't want to download it, this is a good link:-

http://www.ghacks.net/2015/04/17/how...ndows-7-and-8/

--
Alan White
Mozilla Firefox and Forte Agent.
By Loch Long, twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, Scotland.
Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.co.uk/weather

This might also be interesting (or confusing even) http://winsupersite.com/windows-10/p...ur-reservation

My own general view is if you're happy with your current OS stick with it, why take a chance. Upgrading (as opposed to a clean install) always carries some risk in my experience. However, at least the revert option is there if things go wrong, so the easy option might be to go with the flow & revert if the flow gets rocky!

Graham
Penzance

In message ,
Graham Easterling writes
On Saturday, August 15, 2015 at 7:35:38 PM UTC+1, Alan White wrote:
On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 16:52:05 +0100, "Keith (Southend)"
wrote:

Mm, best back up then choose a day when I have all the time in the
world and a bottle of JD ;-)

I found, that despite my best efforts, Windows 10 downloaded and
installed itself and I couldn't stop it without it constantly reminding
me to do it! However, if you don't want to keep it there's an option to
return to your previous OS within thirty days. There were few problems
with already installed software.

If you don't want to download it, this is a good link:-


http://www.ghacks.net/2015/04/17/how...-upgrade-updat
es-in-windows-7-and-8/

--
Alan White
Mozilla Firefox and Forte Agent.
By Loch Long, twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, Scotland.
Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.co.uk/weather

This might also be interesting (or confusing even)
http://winsupersite.com/windows-10/p...ade-installing
after-making-your-reservation

My own general view is if you're happy with your current OS stick with
it, why take a chance. Upgrading (as opposed to a clean install) always
carries some risk in my experience. However, at least the revert option
is there if things go wrong, so the easy option might be to go with the
flow & revert if the flow gets rocky!

Updating to Windows 10 is supposed to remain free at least until 29th
July next year, so there's no rush. Hopefully most of the bugs will have
been removed by then (there are bound to be some). Microsoft have said
that 10 will be the last version of Windows; after this there will just
be updates. Windows 7 is supposed to carry on receiving bug fixes until
2020, including the important security-related ones, but there's no
guarantee that updating to 10 will still be free by then.

There's been concern expressed that Windows 10 sends an awful lot of
info back to Microsoft about what the user is doing, perhaps to allow
adverts to be targeted more precisely (apparently even Solitaire comes
with adverts in Windows 10). Some of this info-sending can be switched
off, apparently, but some can't.
--
John Hall
"Honest criticism is hard to take,
particularly from a relative, a friend,
an acquaintance, or a stranger." Franklin P Jones

On Saturday, August 15, 2015 at 9:11:09 PM UTC+1, John Hall wrote:
In message ,

Updating to Windows 10 is supposed to remain free at least until 29th
July next year, so there's no rush. Hopefully most of the bugs will have
been removed by then (there are bound to be some). Microsoft have said
that 10 will be the last version of Windows; after this there will just
be updates.
--
John Hall

Yes, I initially thought it strange for Microsoft to commit themselves to a final version of Windows. I suppose it's all part of a now clear policy to try to get everyone onto one version, so they don't have to provide updates to multiple versions, currently 7, 8, 8.1, Vista & XP.

The fact is that after a few years of updates the cumulative difference is likely to be as great as between some previous versions, but at least there will only be 1 'version' to update.

Graham
Penzance

In message , John Hall
writes
There's been concern expressed that Windows 10 sends an awful lot of
info back to Microsoft about what the user is doing, perhaps to allow
adverts to be targeted more precisely (apparently even Solitaire comes
with adverts in Windows 10). Some of this info-sending can be switched
off, apparently, but some can't.

For more on this see:

http://www.windowscentral.com/all-yo...acy-windows-10

(You'll see references to Edge. Edge is the new browser that comes with
Windows 10. Of course if you prefer Chrome or Firefox or whatever, you
can carry on using them.)
--
John Hall
"Honest criticism is hard to take,
particularly from a relative, a friend,
an acquaintance, or a stranger." Franklin P Jones

On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 20:56:51 +0100
John Hall wrote:

There's been concern expressed that Windows 10 sends an awful lot of
info back to Microsoft about what the user is doing, perhaps to allow
adverts to be targeted more precisely (apparently even Solitaire
comes with adverts in Windows 10). Some of this info-sending can be
switched off, apparently, but some can't.

Seeing as how I only use MS very occasionally, that won't worry me
much.

I wonder how accurate their targeting will be? If it's like Amazon, the
answer will be "not very". According to the targeted mail I get from
them, they must think I'm a 12-year-old girl who, amongst other things,
owns, drives and maintains a Peugot 205; is a body-builder, and is
interested in male facial grooming products.

--
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. [Retd meteorologist/programmer]
http://www.scarlet-jade.com/
I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.
Posted with Claws: http://www.claws-mail.org/

"Graham P Davis" wrote in message
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On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 20:56:51 +0100
John Hall wrote:

There's been concern expressed that Windows 10 sends an awful lot of
info back to Microsoft about what the user is doing, perhaps to allow
adverts to be targeted more precisely (apparently even Solitaire
comes with adverts in Windows 10). Some of this info-sending can be
switched off, apparently, but some can't.

Seeing as how I only use MS very occasionally, that won't worry me
much.

I wonder how accurate their targeting will be? If it's like Amazon, the
answer will be "not very". According to the targeted mail I get from
them, they must think I'm a 12-year-old girl who, amongst other things,
owns, drives and maintains a Peugot 205; is a body-builder, and is
interested in male facial grooming products.

Well knowing what you look like Graham, I would say that some of the latter
would not go amiss! :-)

Will
--
http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
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On 15/08/2015 23:01, Eskimo Will wrote:

"Graham P Davis" wrote in message
news:20150815223824.6ed96810@home-1...
On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 20:56:51 +0100
John Hall wrote:

There's been concern expressed that Windows 10 sends an awful lot of
info back to Microsoft about what the user is doing, perhaps to allow
adverts to be targeted more precisely (apparently even Solitaire
comes with adverts in Windows 10). Some of this info-sending can be
switched off, apparently, but some can't.

Seeing as how I only use MS very occasionally, that won't worry me
much.

I wonder how accurate their targeting will be? If it's like Amazon, the
answer will be "not very". According to the targeted mail I get from
them, they must think I'm a 12-year-old girl who, amongst other things,
owns, drives and maintains a Peugot 205; is a body-builder, and is
interested in male facial grooming products.

Well knowing what you look like Graham, I would say that some of the
latter would not go amiss! :-)

Will

I'm now worried if I update to Windows 10 I may turn into a cross
dresser, I have a Peugeot 307 ;-)

--
Keith (Southend)
"Weather Home & Abroad"
http://www.southendweather.net
Twitter:@LawnscienceEssx

On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 23:16:01 +0100
"Keith (Southend)" wrote:

On 15/08/2015 23:01, Eskimo Will wrote:

"Graham P Davis" wrote in message
news:20150815223824.6ed96810@home-1...
On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 20:56:51 +0100
John Hall wrote:

There's been concern expressed that Windows 10 sends an awful lot
of info back to Microsoft about what the user is doing, perhaps
to allow adverts to be targeted more precisely (apparently even
Solitaire comes with adverts in Windows 10). Some of this
info-sending can be switched off, apparently, but some can't.

Seeing as how I only use MS very occasionally, that won't worry me
much.

I wonder how accurate their targeting will be? If it's like
Amazon, the answer will be "not very". According to the targeted
mail I get from them, they must think I'm a 12-year-old girl who,
amongst other things, owns, drives and maintains a Peugot 205; is
a body-builder, and is interested in male facial grooming products.

Well knowing what you look like Graham, I would say that some of the
latter would not go amiss! :-)

Will

I'm now worried if I update to Windows 10 I may turn into a cross
dresser, I have a Peugeot 307 ;-)


Ha! Should I be worried that I might turn into a Peugeot-owner? ;-)

The only thing on the list that makes any sense is the last, as I once
bought a beard-trimmer via Amazon. As to the rest, I've no idea. For
instance, I haven't owned or driven any car for twenty years and have
never owned any marque of Peugeot. Amazon still keep e-mailing me
every couple of weeks to advertise that they have Peugeot 205 workshop
manuals available, though.

--
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. [Retd meteorologist/programmer]
http://www.scarlet-jade.com/
I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.
Posted with Claws: http://www.claws-mail.org/

On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 12:15:50 -0700 (PDT), Graham Easterling
wrote:

My own general view is if you're happy with your current OS stick with it, why take a chance. Upgrading (as opposed to a clean install) always carries some risk in my experience. However, at least the revert option is there if things go wrong, so the easy option might be to go with the flow & revert if the flow gets rocky!

I did revert. There were so many bells and whistles that I would never
use and the absence of Windows Media Player, which I use quite a lot,
just didn't make it worth 'upgrading'. This, coupled with the fact that
I was all set to replace motherboard, memory, CPU and graphics card,
clinched it. One step at a time.

--
Alan White
Mozilla Firefox and Forte Agent.
By Loch Long, twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, Scotland.
Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.co.uk/weather

On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 22:34:04 +0100
Alan White wrote:

On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 12:15:50 -0700 (PDT), Graham Easterling
wrote:

My own general view is if you're happy with your current OS stick
with it, why take a chance. Upgrading (as opposed to a clean
install) always carries some risk in my experience. However, at
least the revert option is there if things go wrong, so the easy
option might be to go with the flow & revert if the flow gets rocky!

I did revert. There were so many bells and whistles that I would never
use and the absence of Windows Media Player, which I use quite a lot,
just didn't make it worth 'upgrading'. This, coupled with the fact
that I was all set to replace motherboard, memory, CPU and graphics
card, clinched it. One step at a time.


If you're replacing that much, won't MS not recognise your machine and
insist you buy a new product? ;-)

--
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. [Retd meteorologist/programmer]
http://www.scarlet-jade.com/
I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.
Posted with Claws: http://www.claws-mail.org/