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Clearly been some very difficult situations to predict or get the timing
right. Never seen so many comments from different quarters saying how
poor their regional forecast has been this past week.
Same again here. Whilst watching the forecast on the BBC yesterday
evening we all commented how pleasant a day it looked for the
grandchildren's visit to the Olympic Park, sunny and 21C.
I'm not in London myself but is certainly very grey and cloudy here, no
sun at all and only 18C.
Dave, S.Essex

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Dave Cornwell wrote in news:dJ_zx.378030
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Clearly been some very difficult situations to predict or get the timing
right. Never seen so many comments from different quarters saying how
poor their regional forecast has been this past week.
Same again here. Whilst watching the forecast on the BBC yesterday
evening we all commented how pleasant a day it looked for the
grandchildren's visit to the Olympic Park, sunny and 21C.
I'm not in London myself but is certainly very grey and cloudy here, no
sun at all and only 18C.
Dave, S.Essex


A cloudy start in St Albans but now sunny and just over 20C with almost no
wind, very pleasant. As a consequence of the lack of wind cloud takes some
time to move on so you can be unlucky in these conditions.

Alan
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It was pleasant here earlier now cloudy though no wind so not a bad day. If the sun comes out later it will be like a re-run of yesterday. The FAX charts have suggested for days that the weekend would be a difficult one. That high pressure is not that 'high' and centre is well to South, slack flow etc
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In message , Alan
Gardiner writes
Dave Cornwell wrote in
:

Clearly been some very difficult situations to predict or get the timing
right. Never seen so many comments from different quarters saying how
poor their regional forecast has been this past week.
Same again here. Whilst watching the forecast on the BBC yesterday
evening we all commented how pleasant a day it looked for the
grandchildren's visit to the Olympic Park, sunny and 21C.
I'm not in London myself but is certainly very grey and cloudy here, no
sun at all and only 18C.
Dave, S.Essex


A cloudy start in St Albans but now sunny and just over 20C with almost
no wind, very pleasant. As a consequence of the lack of wind cloud
takes some time to move on so you can be unlucky in these conditions.


The reverse in Cranleigh, Surrey. Sunny early on, but by noon it was
predominantly cloudy, and the cloud seems to have become increasingly
thick through the afternoon.
--
John Hall
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particularly from a relative, a friend,
an acquaintance, or a stranger." Franklin P Jones
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John Hall wrote in
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In message , Alan
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Dave Cornwell wrote in
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Clearly been some very difficult situations to predict or get the
timing right. Never seen so many comments from different quarters
saying how poor their regional forecast has been this past week.
Same again here. Whilst watching the forecast on the BBC yesterday
evening we all commented how pleasant a day it looked for the
grandchildren's visit to the Olympic Park, sunny and 21C.
I'm not in London myself but is certainly very grey and cloudy here,
no sun at all and only 18C.
Dave, S.Essex


A cloudy start in St Albans but now sunny and just over 20C with
almost no wind, very pleasant. As a consequence of the lack of wind
cloud takes some time to move on so you can be unlucky in these
conditions.


The reverse in Cranleigh, Surrey. Sunny early on, but by noon it was
predominantly cloudy, and the cloud seems to have become increasingly
thick through the afternoon.


Clouded up again in the afternoon, today looks more promising.

Alan


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In message , Alan
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John Hall wrote in
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In message , Alan
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A cloudy start in St Albans but now sunny and just over 20C with
almost no wind, very pleasant. As a consequence of the lack of wind
cloud takes some time to move on so you can be unlucky in these
conditions.


The reverse in Cranleigh, Surrey. Sunny early on, but by noon it was
predominantly cloudy, and the cloud seems to have become increasingly
thick through the afternoon.


Clouded up again in the afternoon, today looks more promising.

Alan


Looking at the weather reports in my newspaper this morning, I was
startled to see that the sunshine readings for both Epsom and
Farnborough (Hants) - the nearest places to me that are listed - were
about 9 hours. Then I saw the tell-tale asterisks next to the figures,
which indicates that they are "estimates". More like computer guesses
based on the forecast, I suspect! I don't know why Accuweather can't be
honest, and put either a space or a dash when they don't have an actual
reading.
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particularly from a relative, a friend,
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On 17/08/2015 13:00, John Hall wrote:
In message , Alan
Gardiner writes
John Hall wrote in
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In message , Alan
Gardiner writes

A cloudy start in St Albans but now sunny and just over 20C with
almost no wind, very pleasant. As a consequence of the lack of wind
cloud takes some time to move on so you can be unlucky in these
conditions.

The reverse in Cranleigh, Surrey. Sunny early on, but by noon it was
predominantly cloudy, and the cloud seems to have become increasingly
thick through the afternoon.


Clouded up again in the afternoon, today looks more promising.

Alan


Looking at the weather reports in my newspaper this morning, I was
startled to see that the sunshine readings for both Epsom and
Farnborough (Hants) - the nearest places to me that are listed - were
about 9 hours. Then I saw the tell-tale asterisks next to the figures,
which indicates that they are "estimates". More like computer guesses
based on the forecast, I suspect! I don't know why Accuweather can't be
honest, and put either a space or a dash when they don't have an actual
reading.


I now have little faith in such statistics (or ineed most things) as
printed in the media. Sunshine figures are d-1 and in some cases up to
1800 GMT only. I commented the other day on some local maximum
temperatures displayed by Ogimet and Weatheronline - way out. The
problem is that in these days of copy and paste and electronic news
gathering such errors are merrily transmitted on.
I now use 2 sources for such information. UKMO if I have the time to dig
deep or Roger Brugge's COL site.

--
George in Swanston, Edinburgh, 580'asl
www.swanstonweather.co.uk
www.eppingweather.co.uk
www.winter1947.co.uk


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