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http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/08/1...des-june-data/


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On Monday, 17 August 2015 22:12:04 UTC+1, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/08/1...des-june-data/



Should have put


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk60CUkf3Kw
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On Monday, August 17, 2015 at 10:18:59 PM UTC+1, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
On Monday, 17 August 2015 22:12:04 UTC+1, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/08/1...des-june-data/



Should have put


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk60CUkf3Kw


Oh dear, he's felt the need to embarrass himself further by starting a new thread on it.

Great source larry!
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On 17/08/15 22:18, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
On Monday, 17 August 2015 22:12:04 UTC+1, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/08/1...des-june-data/



Should have put


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk60CUkf3Kw


I watched for 2 minutes - that was long enough.

" Global warming is a religion because you can't discuss it"

I laughed out loud at that. AGW must be one of the most discussed
science topics on the planet.

"They (the APS) said you cannot discuss global warming because we
believe it is happening" sigh

"Everybody talks about about climate change" - really; didn't he just
say that everyone was gagged from talking about it?
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On Wednesday, 19 August 2015 15:55:20 UTC+1, RedAcer wrote:
On 17/08/15 22:18, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
On Monday, 17 August 2015 22:12:04 UTC+1, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/08/1...des-june-data/



Should have put


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk60CUkf3Kw


I watched for 2 minutes - that was long enough.

" Global warming is a religion because you can't discuss it"

I laughed out loud at that. AGW must be one of the most discussed
science topics on the planet.

"They (the APS) said you cannot discuss global warming because we
believe it is happening" sigh

"Everybody talks about about climate change" - really; didn't he just
say that everyone was gagged from talking about it?




You know full well what he meant, that you can't discuss from a contrary decision. Its not as you tried to suggest

"I laughed out loud at that. AGW must be one of the most discussed
science topics on the planet."

Because it isn't discussed, its proclaimed by dictate as being the only true
scientific reality and anyone who says hold on a moment is immediately labelled as a denier. heretic and holocaust and moon landing denier to boot.

If you hadn't so disrespectfully ( because he doesn't agree with your faith)
stopped watching an proper Nobel prize recipient get to 5:19 sec you would have seen a very telling map of the world showing just where land based temperatures have been taken with the latitudes across the USA and western Europe out to the far east showing 2643 out of globally 3846 measuring stations with the bulk being in the United States. So its no wonder that GISS in their almost orgasmic announcements about record temps by 0.033 of a degree Celsius are only possible after GISS have continuously altered the best record of temperature for the whole globe which is the USA and forever making the 1930's in particular cooler and the present warmer, whilst denying the temperature record from satellite.

By the way the melting Antarctic has 8 measurement stations for the whole continent and apparently they prove the Antarctic is melting !

You really couldn't male it up.



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On Wednesday, August 19, 2015 at 7:14:57 PM UTC+1, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
On Wednesday, 19 August 2015 15:55:20 UTC+1, RedAcer wrote:
On 17/08/15 22:18, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
On Monday, 17 August 2015 22:12:04 UTC+1, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/08/1...des-june-data/


Should have put


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk60CUkf3Kw


I watched for 2 minutes - that was long enough.

" Global warming is a religion because you can't discuss it"

I laughed out loud at that. AGW must be one of the most discussed
science topics on the planet.

"They (the APS) said you cannot discuss global warming because we
believe it is happening" sigh

"Everybody talks about about climate change" - really; didn't he just
say that everyone was gagged from talking about it?




You know full well what he meant, that you can't discuss from a contrary decision. Its not as you tried to suggest

"I laughed out loud at that. AGW must be one of the most discussed
science topics on the planet."

Because it isn't discussed, its proclaimed by dictate as being the only true
scientific reality and anyone who says hold on a moment is immediately labelled as a denier. heretic and holocaust and moon landing denier to boot.

If you hadn't so disrespectfully ( because he doesn't agree with your faith)
stopped watching an proper Nobel prize recipient get to 5:19 sec you would have seen a very telling map of the world showing just where land based temperatures have been taken with the latitudes across the USA and western Europe out to the far east showing 2643 out of globally 3846 measuring stations with the bulk being in the United States. So its no wonder that GISS in their almost orgasmic announcements about record temps by 0.033 of a degree Celsius are only possible after GISS have continuously altered the best record of temperature for the whole globe which is the USA and forever making the 1930's in particular cooler and the present warmer, whilst denying the temperature record from satellite.

By the way the melting Antarctic has 8 measurement stations for the whole continent and apparently they prove the Antarctic is melting !

You really couldn't male it up.


Typical ignorant denier. Believes anyone who says what he wants to hear, oblivious to the fact that science has moved on and left him so far behind he can't even hear the laughter at his stupidity.

Cracking choice of a source larry!
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"Lawrence Jenkins" wrote in message
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If you hadn't so disrespectfully ( because he doesn't agree with your
faith) stopped watching an proper Nobel prize recipient get to 5:19 ...


Please don't be seduced by the idea that Nobel laureates are omniscient.
They're pretty clever people but often only in a fairly narrow speciality
(though I'd except my old boss Jim Black - Medicine 1988 - from that
statement) that doesn't automatically qualify them to be authorities on
subjects totally outside their field.

Giaever's was some work on a fairly significant but arcane aspect of
superconductivity some 50 years or more ago. I did watch the video to the
end and it's simply a pretty elderly gent (late 80's is he now?) who has put
together what can only be described as a ragbag of mostly unsupported
statements and opinions as to his personal view of GW/CC, the bulk of which
would not stand up to serious scrutiny in any more serious scientific forum,
for presentation to a patently uncritical audience.

For instance, the idea that a relatively rapid warming of 0.8C (threatening
to be 2C or higher) is so tiny as to be trivial really does not stack up to
anyone who's studied the subject in detail. And similarly the old red
herring that the molar fraction of CO2 in the atmosphere is again so small
that it can't possibly have any warming effect is equally smelly. And
presenting the UAH data set without any trend line superimposed as evidence
that there has been zero warming since 1979 is not far short of outright
deceit. I could go on.

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Well detailed, but it won't change anything for larry. He went to Watts (he always goes to Watts) and found a real live **scientist** who doesn't think AGW is happening. To larry, one is enough. Sod the other tens of thousands who understand that it very likely is. That's how deniers justify their craziness to themselves. They then expect other, rational, human beings to be convinced by such idiocy. shakes head.


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