On 21/08/2015 07:12, xmetman wrote:
I thought when I looked at the temperature of 17.5°C here this morning as I got up I thought that here in the SW we would be the warmest place in the British Isles but no, most places even northern Scotland are in the range 16-18°C, not surprising really when most of us are sat in a broad warm sector. It's strange that Carole would say that we are sat between two weather fronts on this mornings forecast rather than use the phrase 'warm sector', she obviously thought that it was far too technical a term for the general viewer to understand.

A minimum of 17.0C last night. Nothing unusual for the time of year.

--
Nick Gardner
Otter Valley, Devon
20 m amsl
http://www.ottervalley.co.uk

On Friday, 21 August 2015 19:09:42 UTC+1, Nick Gardner wrote:
On 21/08/2015 07:12, xmetman wrote:
I thought when I looked at the temperature of 17.5°C here this morning as I got up I thought that here in the SW we would be the warmest place in the British Isles but no, most places even northern Scotland are in the range 16-18°C, not surprising really when most of us are sat in a broad warm sector. It's strange that Carole would say that we are sat between two weather fronts on this mornings forecast rather than use the phrase 'warm sector', she obviously thought that it was far too technical a term for the general viewer to understand.

A minimum of 17.0C last night. Nothing unusual for the time of year.

--
Nick Gardner
Otter Valley, Devon
20 m amsl
http://www.ottervalley.co.uk

It was 17.0°C min here too. Not freakish, but pretty high and probably the highest of the year.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey. 557 ft., 169 m.

in 422518 20150821 102315 John Hall wrote:
In message ,
xmetman writes
I thought when I looked at the temperature of 17.5�C here this morning
as I got up I thought that here in the SW we would be the warmest place
in the British Isles but no, most places even northern Scotland are in
the range 16-18�C, not surprising really when most of us are sat in a
broad warm sector. It's strange that Carole would say that we are sat
between two weather fronts on this mornings forecast rather than use
the phrase 'warm sector', she obviously thought that it was far too
technical a term for the general viewer to understand.

If she really said "we are sat" rather than "we are sitting" then I
suppose it's not that surprising, but just another sad reminder that for
some reason the more grammatical "we are sitting" seems to be falling
into disuse. I inwardly wince every time I hear someone on radio or TV
say "I was sat" or "I was stood", which means that I wince an awful lot.

Sorry for the rant, but it's a particular bugbear of mine.

Mine is that no-one seems able to say "brought" any more.
They all say "bought" as past tense of "bring".
(yet no-one says "bing" :-) )

On Friday, August 21, 2015 at 12:26:15 PM UTC+1, Dawlish wrote:
On Friday, August 21, 2015 at 12:02:44 PM UTC+1, xmetman wrote:
On Friday, 21 August 2015 11:36:22 UTC+1, Malcolm Ogilvie wrote:
On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 10:23:15 +0100, John Hall wrote:

In message ,
xmetman writes
I thought when I looked at the temperature of 17.5°C here this morning
as I got up I thought that here in the SW we would be the warmest place
in the British Isles but no, most places even northern Scotland are in
the range 16-18°C, not surprising really when most of us are sat in a
broad warm sector. It's strange that Carole would say that we are sat
between two weather fronts on this mornings forecast rather than use
the phrase 'warm sector', she obviously thought that it was far too
technical a term for the general viewer to understand.

If she really said "we are sat" rather than "we are sitting" then I
suppose it's not that surprising, but just another sad reminder that for
some reason the more grammatical "we are sitting" seems to be falling
into disuse. I inwardly wince every time I hear someone on radio or TV
say "I was sat" or "I was stood", which means that I wince an awful lot.

Sorry for the rant, but it's a particular bugbear of mine.

I earn money correcting people's written English but accept that our language is
constantly evolving and a sentence or phrase that once upon a time was deemed
ungrammatical is now accepted as "common usage", however much it might make one wince!
There's an excellent weekly column in The Times by Oliver Kamm (writing as "The Pedant")
who regularly demolishes some of my cherished beliefs. Recently, he argued very cogently
that those who complain when people write or say "less" when they mean "fewer" should
cease doing so! Both words have a long pedigree and the belief that one is "right" and the
other "wrong" cannot be sustained.

Malcolm

UKSW never fails to amaze me. What I was trying to draw attention to was that although there is a very well established meteorological term for the area between a warm and cold front she didn't use it! I can't remember precisely how she phrased it, other than the fact that she didn't use the term 'warm sector' and that was the whole point of me posting it!

Heh! never fails to amaze me too. Bloody miserable weather on the South Devon coast. 17C and persistent drizzle, blowing rain in a force 4 southerly.. Not what the Dawlish Air show ordered. It's tomorrow, but the helicopters have just landed in the field below us. The forecast for tomorrow is for much of the same and we'll be very lucky to get a break in this low cloud tomorrow afternoon and the risk of cancellation is high. Shame. It's a fantastic event every year.

What also amazes me is how a forecast can change so much over 24 hours. Chances of the Dawlish Air Show going ahead now excellent. Head on down one and all. You are in for a treat! It really is an afternoon to savour.

Watching TV yesterday evening and suddenly, framed perfectly in the window above the TV......the Red Arrows in their trademark arrow formation. Where did that come from??? Made the heart leap. Just wonderful!!

In message , Bob Martin
writes
Mine is that no-one seems able to say "brought" any more. They all say
"bought" as past tense of "bring". (yet no-one says "bing" :-) )

Good grief! Thankfully I haven't yet heard that one.
--
John Hall
"Honest criticism is hard to take,
particularly from a relative, a friend,
an acquaintance, or a stranger." Franklin P Jones

On Saturday, August 22, 2015 at 10:04:23 AM UTC+1, John Hall wrote:
In message , Bob Martin
writes
Mine is that no-one seems able to say "brought" any more. They all say
"bought" as past tense of "bring". (yet no-one says "bing" :-) )

Good grief! Thankfully I haven't yet heard that one.
--

Also common is been for being, so many others creeping in as well. Aaaaggghhhh!

On Saturday, August 22, 2015 at 9:39:57 AM UTC+1, Dawlish wrote:
On Friday, August 21, 2015 at 12:26:15 PM UTC+1, Dawlish wrote:
On Friday, August 21, 2015 at 12:02:44 PM UTC+1, xmetman wrote:
On Friday, 21 August 2015 11:36:22 UTC+1, Malcolm Ogilvie wrote:
On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 10:23:15 +0100, John Hall wrote:

In message ,
xmetman writes
I thought when I looked at the temperature of 17.5°C here this morning
as I got up I thought that here in the SW we would be the warmest place
in the British Isles but no, most places even northern Scotland are in
the range 16-18°C, not surprising really when most of us are sat in a
broad warm sector. It's strange that Carole would say that we are sat
between two weather fronts on this mornings forecast rather than use
the phrase 'warm sector', she obviously thought that it was far too
technical a term for the general viewer to understand.

If she really said "we are sat" rather than "we are sitting" then I
suppose it's not that surprising, but just another sad reminder that for
some reason the more grammatical "we are sitting" seems to be falling
into disuse. I inwardly wince every time I hear someone on radio or TV
say "I was sat" or "I was stood", which means that I wince an awful lot.

Sorry for the rant, but it's a particular bugbear of mine.

I earn money correcting people's written English but accept that our language is
constantly evolving and a sentence or phrase that once upon a time was deemed
ungrammatical is now accepted as "common usage", however much it might make one wince!
There's an excellent weekly column in The Times by Oliver Kamm (writing as "The Pedant")
who regularly demolishes some of my cherished beliefs. Recently, he argued very cogently
that those who complain when people write or say "less" when they mean "fewer" should
cease doing so! Both words have a long pedigree and the belief that one is "right" and the
other "wrong" cannot be sustained.

Malcolm

UKSW never fails to amaze me. What I was trying to draw attention to was that although there is a very well established meteorological term for the area between a warm and cold front she didn't use it! I can't remember precisely how she phrased it, other than the fact that she didn't use the term 'warm sector' and that was the whole point of me posting it!

Heh! never fails to amaze me too. Bloody miserable weather on the South Devon coast. 17C and persistent drizzle, blowing rain in a force 4 southerly. Not what the Dawlish Air show ordered. It's tomorrow, but the helicopters have just landed in the field below us. The forecast for tomorrow is for much of the same and we'll be very lucky to get a break in this low cloud tomorrow afternoon and the risk of cancellation is high. Shame. It's a fantastic event every year.

What also amazes me is how a forecast can change so much over 24 hours. Chances of the Dawlish Air Show going ahead now excellent. Head on down one and all. You are in for a treat! It really is an afternoon to savour.

Watching TV yesterday evening and suddenly, framed perfectly in the window above the TV......the Red Arrows in their trademark arrow formation. Where did that come from??? Made the heart leap. Just wonderful!!

Here you go Dawlish, one for you. I can get you one for £10 if you're interested.

http://www.westminstercollection.com...oin&prodsn= 1

in 422589 20150822 100117 John Hall wrote:
In message , Bob Martin
writes
Mine is that no-one seems able to say "brought" any more. They all say
"bought" as past tense of "bring". (yet no-one says "bing" :-) )

Good grief! Thankfully I haven't yet heard that one.

First heard on Classic FM : "the weather forecast is bought to you by Powergen".
Then Princess Michael of Kent : "our son wasn't bought up to ..."
So common on the soaps now that my wife can hardly bring (bing?) herself to
say "brought" any more!

On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 06:28:47 BST
Bob Martin wrote:

in 422589 20150822 100117 John Hall wrote:
In message , Bob Martin
writes
Mine is that no-one seems able to say "brought" any more. They all
say "bought" as past tense of "bring". (yet no-one says "bing" :-) )

Good grief! Thankfully I haven't yet heard that one.

First heard on Classic FM : "the weather forecast is bought to you by
Powergen". Then Princess Michael of Kent : "our son wasn't bought up
to ..." So common on the soaps now that my wife can hardly bring
(bing?) herself to say "brought" any more!

When she did bing herself, then she would of bought herself to say
"brought".

--
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. [Retd meteorologist/programmer]
http://www.scarlet-jade.com/
I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.
Posted with Claws: http://www.claws-mail.org/

In message 20150823064220.6715cd3d@home-1, Graham P Davis
writes
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 06:28:47 BST
Bob Martin wrote:

in 422589 20150822 100117 John Hall wrote:
In message , Bob Martin
writes
Mine is that no-one seems able to say "brought" any more. They all
say "bought" as past tense of "bring". (yet no-one says "bing" :-) )

Good grief! Thankfully I haven't yet heard that one.

First heard on Classic FM : "the weather forecast is bought to you by
Powergen". Then Princess Michael of Kent : "our son wasn't bought up
to ..." So common on the soaps now that my wife can hardly bring
(bing?) herself to say "brought" any more!

When she did bing herself, then she would of bought herself to say
"brought".

Ah yes, "would of" instead of "would have" is another all too common
abomination.
--
John Hall
"Honest criticism is hard to take,
particularly from a relative, a friend,
an acquaintance, or a stranger." Franklin P Jones