I thought when I looked at the temperature of 17.5°C here this morning as I got up I thought that here in the SW we would be the warmest place in the British Isles but no, most places even northern Scotland are in the range 16-18°C, not surprising really when most of us are sat in a broad warm sector. It's strange that Carole would say that we are sat between two weather fronts on this mornings forecast rather than use the phrase 'warm sector', she obviously thought that it was far too technical a term for the general viewer to understand.

In message ,
xmetman writes
I thought when I looked at the temperature of 17.5°C here this morning
as I got up I thought that here in the SW we would be the warmest place
in the British Isles but no, most places even northern Scotland are in
the range 16-18°C, not surprising really when most of us are sat in a
broad warm sector. It's strange that Carole would say that we are sat
between two weather fronts on this mornings forecast rather than use
the phrase 'warm sector', she obviously thought that it was far too
technical a term for the general viewer to understand.

If she really said "we are sat" rather than "we are sitting" then I
suppose it's not that surprising, but just another sad reminder that for
some reason the more grammatical "we are sitting" seems to be falling
into disuse. I inwardly wince every time I hear someone on radio or TV
say "I was sat" or "I was stood", which means that I wince an awful lot.

Sorry for the rant, but it's a particular bugbear of mine.
--
John Hall
"Honest criticism is hard to take,
particularly from a relative, a friend,
an acquaintance, or a stranger." Franklin P Jones

On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 10:23:15 +0100
John Hall wrote:

In message ,
xmetman writes
I thought when I looked at the temperature of 17.5°C here this
morning as I got up I thought that here in the SW we would be the
warmest place in the British Isles but no, most places even northern
Scotland are in the range 16-18°C, not surprising really when most
of us are sat in a broad warm sector. It's strange that Carole would
say that we are sat between two weather fronts on this mornings
forecast rather than use the phrase 'warm sector', she obviously
thought that it was far too technical a term for the general viewer
to understand.

If she really said "we are sat" rather than "we are sitting" then I
suppose it's not that surprising, but just another sad reminder that
for some reason the more grammatical "we are sitting" seems to be
falling into disuse. I inwardly wince every time I hear someone on
radio or TV say "I was sat" or "I was stood", which means that I
wince an awful lot.

Sorry for the rant, but it's a particular bugbear of mine.

In the one I saw, she pointed out the rain on the "warm front" to the
east and then that on the "cold front" in the west. She mentioned the
"cold front" a further couple of times. "Weather front" came up a
couple of times as did "front" on its own. Although she didn't mention
"warm sector", I thought she did a pretty good job.

I didn't notice her say "we are sat" but that is no evidence for her
innocence or guilt in that respect.

--
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If she really said "we are sat" rather than "we are sitting"
then I suppose it's not that surprising, but just another sad
reminder that for some reason the more grammatical "we are
sitting" seems to be falling into disuse. I inwardly wince
every time I hear someone on radio or TV say "I was sat" or "I
was stood", which means that I wince an awful lot.
Sorry for the rant, but it's a particular bugbear of mine.
John Hall

I agree 100%. I too do a lot of wincing these days. Also when
'lay' and 'lie' are misused.

Anne

On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 10:23:15 +0100, John Hall wrote:

In message ,
xmetman writes
I thought when I looked at the temperature of 17.5°C here this morning
as I got up I thought that here in the SW we would be the warmest place
in the British Isles but no, most places even northern Scotland are in
the range 16-18°C, not surprising really when most of us are sat in a
broad warm sector. It's strange that Carole would say that we are sat
between two weather fronts on this mornings forecast rather than use
the phrase 'warm sector', she obviously thought that it was far too
technical a term for the general viewer to understand.

If she really said "we are sat" rather than "we are sitting" then I
suppose it's not that surprising, but just another sad reminder that for
some reason the more grammatical "we are sitting" seems to be falling
into disuse. I inwardly wince every time I hear someone on radio or TV
say "I was sat" or "I was stood", which means that I wince an awful lot.

Sorry for the rant, but it's a particular bugbear of mine.

I earn money correcting people's written English but accept that our language is
constantly evolving and a sentence or phrase that once upon a time was deemed
ungrammatical is now accepted as "common usage", however much it might make one wince!
There's an excellent weekly column in The Times by Oliver Kamm (writing as "The Pedant")
who regularly demolishes some of my cherished beliefs. Recently, he argued very cogently
that those who complain when people write or say "less" when they mean "fewer" should
cease doing so! Both words have a long pedigree and the belief that one is "right" and the
other "wrong" cannot be sustained.

Malcolm

On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 11:21:12 +0100, "Anne B" wrote:

I agree 100%. I too do a lot of wincing these days...

+1

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On Friday, 21 August 2015 11:36:22 UTC+1, Malcolm Ogilvie wrote:
On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 10:23:15 +0100, John Hall wrote:

In message ,
xmetman writes
I thought when I looked at the temperature of 17.5°C here this morning
as I got up I thought that here in the SW we would be the warmest place
in the British Isles but no, most places even northern Scotland are in
the range 16-18°C, not surprising really when most of us are sat in a
broad warm sector. It's strange that Carole would say that we are sat
between two weather fronts on this mornings forecast rather than use
the phrase 'warm sector', she obviously thought that it was far too
technical a term for the general viewer to understand.

If she really said "we are sat" rather than "we are sitting" then I
suppose it's not that surprising, but just another sad reminder that for
some reason the more grammatical "we are sitting" seems to be falling
into disuse. I inwardly wince every time I hear someone on radio or TV
say "I was sat" or "I was stood", which means that I wince an awful lot.

Sorry for the rant, but it's a particular bugbear of mine.

I earn money correcting people's written English but accept that our language is
constantly evolving and a sentence or phrase that once upon a time was deemed
ungrammatical is now accepted as "common usage", however much it might make one wince!
There's an excellent weekly column in The Times by Oliver Kamm (writing as "The Pedant")
who regularly demolishes some of my cherished beliefs. Recently, he argued very cogently
that those who complain when people write or say "less" when they mean "fewer" should
cease doing so! Both words have a long pedigree and the belief that one is "right" and the
other "wrong" cannot be sustained.

Malcolm

UKSW never fails to amaze me. What I was trying to draw attention to was that although there is a very well established meteorological term for the area between a warm and cold front she didn't use it! I can't remember precisely how she phrased it, other than the fact that she didn't use the term 'warm sector' and that was the whole point of me posting it!

On Friday, August 21, 2015 at 12:02:44 PM UTC+1, xmetman wrote:
On Friday, 21 August 2015 11:36:22 UTC+1, Malcolm Ogilvie wrote:
On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 10:23:15 +0100, John Hall wrote:

In message ,
xmetman writes
I thought when I looked at the temperature of 17.5°C here this morning
as I got up I thought that here in the SW we would be the warmest place
in the British Isles but no, most places even northern Scotland are in
the range 16-18°C, not surprising really when most of us are sat in a
broad warm sector. It's strange that Carole would say that we are sat
between two weather fronts on this mornings forecast rather than use
the phrase 'warm sector', she obviously thought that it was far too
technical a term for the general viewer to understand.

If she really said "we are sat" rather than "we are sitting" then I
suppose it's not that surprising, but just another sad reminder that for
some reason the more grammatical "we are sitting" seems to be falling
into disuse. I inwardly wince every time I hear someone on radio or TV
say "I was sat" or "I was stood", which means that I wince an awful lot.

On Friday, 21 August 2015 11:28:55 UTC+1, Anne B wrote:
If she really said "we are sat" rather than "we are sitting"
then I suppose it's not that surprising, but just another sad
reminder that for some reason the more grammatical "we are
sitting" seems to be falling into disuse. I inwardly wince
every time I hear someone on radio or TV say "I was sat" or "I
was stood", which means that I wince an awful lot.
Sorry for the rant, but it's a particular bugbear of mine.
John Hall

I agree 100%. I too do a lot of wincing these days. Also when
'lay' and 'lie' are misused.

Anne

I heard Mrs Nextdoor bellow exasperatedly to her small child at bedtime "Lay down". The kid should have said "OK, hand me the bottles?".

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.

On Friday, 21 August 2015 07:12:41 UTC+1, xmetman wrote:
I thought when I looked at the temperature of 17.5°C here this morning as I got up I thought that here in the SW we would be the warmest place in the British Isles but no, most places even northern Scotland are in the range 16-18°C, not surprising really when most of us are sat in a broad warm sector. It's strange that Carole would say that we are sat between two weather fronts on this mornings forecast rather than use the phrase 'warm sector', she obviously thought that it was far too technical a term for the general viewer to understand.

Do meteorologists still talk about warm sectors or is the term (and concept) now a bit dated? I certainly think it'a useful term and the general public should have no problem with it but by "simplifying" it she had actually made it more obscure. It's a bit like being afraid to say "wheel" so we have "rotating bit that pulls the car along". They tie themselves in knots.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.